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[michaeljb]

I would love to pull this one off in a real game...

[rod-]

I'd be coming in here to post my log / brag if i managed EITHER a goons or familiar on turn 4 in a real game.

[Jimmmmm]

Open Squire/Squire while both your opponents open Bishop or Swindler or Governor?

[michaeljb]

Open Squire/Squire while both your opponents open Bishop or Swindler or Governor?

That lets you gain them, but how do you get them into hand on turn 4?
Also my solution does not require any opponents.

[eHalcyon]

Open Squire/Squire while both your opponents open Bishop or Swindler or Governor?

Nice idea.  But to play them on Turn 4, you need them in your deck by Turn 3, and you need to have cycled enough to get to them on Turn 4.  I suppose the easy fix is to add more players to the game.  Swindler is the better card for this purpose because it will help cycle.

PPE: Oho.  A solution without other opponents, hm.

Maybe something involving Graverobber/Squire?  I can't think of a way to make it work though.

[michaeljb]

My solution doesn't use Graverobber.       

[heron]

Aha!


Start with shelters
Open Remake/Watchtower
Play Necropolis, play remake, trashing a hovel, gaining squire, reveal watchtower, trash squire, gain familiar, trash hovel to squire to goons.
Play watchtower, drawing five cards. End turn.
Play familiar, play goons.


Now someone tell me where I made an error...

[Jimmmmm]

Or just topdeck the Familiar and the Goons.

Also, one of your Hovels should be an Overgrown Estate.

[eHalcyon]

Or just topdeck the Familiar and the Goons.

Also, one of your Hovels should be an Overgrown Estate.

It would have to be the first Hovel because you don't want to draw the first card you topdecked.

[Jimmmmm]

Huh.

Unless I'm mistaken you can do it all in turn 3.

Open Watchtower/Remake

Draw Necropolis, Remake, Hovel, Overgrown Estate, Watchtower.
Play Necropolis
Play Remake...
....Trash Hovel, gain Squire, reveal WT, trash Squire, gain Familiar, reveal WT, topdeck Familiar
....Trash Overgrown Estate, draw Familiar, gain Squire, reveal WT, trash Squire, gain Goons, reveal WT, topdeck Goons
Play Familiar, draw Goons
Play Goons

[Davio]

Nice find.

[Kirian]

Where's Celestial Chameleon to tell us how to do it on T2?

[michaeljb]

Wow, nice one Jim.

My solution for Turn 4 is actually simpler than what heron found:


Turns 1 & 2
Open Watchtower/Squire
in cleanup of turn 2 draw Watchtower, Squire, 3 Coppers

Turn 3
Play Squire for Buys, 3 Coppers
Buy 2 Squires
Reveal Watchtower to trash Squires, gain Goons/Familiar, reveal Watchtower to topdeck
draw Familiar, Goons in cleanup phase


I never thought to try to get it done on turn 3 haha

[ehunt]

Huh.

Unless I'm mistaken you can do it all in turn 3.

Open Watchtower/Remake

Draw Necropolis, Remake, Hovel, Overgrown Estate, Watchtower.
Play Necropolis
Play Remake...
....Trash Hovel, gain Squire, reveal WT, trash Squire, gain Familiar, reveal WT, topdeck Familiar
....Trash Overgrown Estate, draw Familiar, gain Squire, reveal WT, trash Squire, gain Goons, reveal WT, topdeck Goons
Play Familiar, draw Goons
Play Goons

ragequit

[GendoIkari]

If you are allowed opponents, then it should be possible to play a Goons and a Familiar on turn 2.

[khanh93]

If you are allowed opponents, then it should be possible to play a Goons and a Familiar on turn 2.

Unless I'm mistaken about the passing order of Masquerade:

Supply: Masquerade, Noble Brigand, Remake, Watchtower, Squire, Goons, Familiar, decks start with shelters.

Turn 1
P1: Buy Noble Brigand, discarding two coppers off of everybody's deck.
P2: Buy Masquerade, draw Masquerade in clean-up
P3: Buy Remake, draw Remake in clean-up
P4: Buy Watchtower, draw WT-C-OGE-Hovel-Necropolis in clean-up


Turn 2
P1: do whatever
P2: Play masquerade. P3 passes Remake to P4, P4 passes copper to P1.
P3: do whatever
P4: Has hand of Watchtower-Remake-Shelters, plays Familiar and Goons as per Jim.

Does anybody think we need wiki page pertaining to perfect-shuffle-luck puzzles?