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Author Topic: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Werewolves win!)  (Read 108723 times)

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Is there a possibility that Eevee is still lying and he actually does have a faction, or did I miss something? I'm uncomfortable with the idea of letting a scum MA live.
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I think that the person that kills Eevee may get an extra benefit--in the same way that Galz who killed Insomniac got an extra benefit--and I think that if Eevee is lynched, it will likely be the person with who hammers? I don't know... maybe I am making this up.

But if someone does get this benefit, it should be the person who is most townie. We don't want to give out this benefit to someone that is mafia!

So before Eevee gets lynched--and I think he should absolutely get lynched--there is 0% reason to not lynch him, we can't control him and if I were SK I wouldn't want town to win, I would gun for town with my NK--we should decide who the hammer vote will be....
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from Mafia IX:

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Welcome to Mafia IX, Major Arcana Mafia.

You are the High Priestess.

You have keen intuitive awareness. You represent the archetype of the virginal daughter. Of love without sex. Of unrevealed secrets and hidden wisdom.

You are also a werewolf, with Captain_Frisk. Talk here (http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/R4LQX4i4bs4) at night.

Once per day, you may call upon the spirits to answer a question truthfully. Do this by PMing it to the mod. This must be a yes/no question. The question and its truthful answer will be made public to the town. You, however, will remain anonymous.

You win when only werewolves remain alive, or when nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm in the game thread.

Secret info: whoever kills the High Priestess (including hammer vote) gets a 1-shot usage of her ability the following day
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That would be Galz right? He's proven that he's the Strongman Vig, so he's named townie at this point.
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That would be Galz right? He's proven that he's the Strongman Vig, so he's named townie at this point.

Well, unless Eevee is lying and is a regular mafia/werewolf card holder, and Galzria is also lying and is actually an MA with strongman abilities.
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Okay, Galz is already voting. So, he needs to unvote, someone puts Eevee at L-1, and then Galz hammers, if we're going with him of course.
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Even in the completely backwards world just suggested by Ashersky where BOTH Eevee and I are lying (What's Eevee have to gain from that again? Oh, and while you're answering that, please explain Eevee surviving Robz Vig shot), then my hammering Eevee would give me no benefit since he's "just normal scum".
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Even in the completely backwards world just suggested by Ashersky where BOTH Eevee and I are lying (What's Eevee have to gain from that again? Oh, and while you're answering that, please explain Eevee surviving Robz Vig shot), then my hammering Eevee would give me no benefit since he's "just normal scum".

You are right, I guess.  There's no bulletproof scum, right?  What about 9 of Pentacles?  Can you be 1-shot bulletproof from JOAT?

What Eevee gains from lying I do not know.


Do we really want Galz to get all the MA power in this game?  I'm still worried he's playing us.
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Is there a possibility that Eevee is still lying and he actually does have a faction, or did I miss something? I'm uncomfortable with the idea of letting a scum MA live.
It's definiatally a possibility, and something we shouldn't rule out.

I don't know, I guess it's possible. Just 'Hermit' sounds like a solitary and that he 'slit his throat' sounds Serial Killer-ish.

Plus, I think we have the NKs all accounted for:

Ripped to shreds = Werewolf

Bullet holes = Mafia

Strangled = Strongman Vig (Galz)

Throat slit = Serial Killer (Eevee)

I think that the person that kills Eevee may get an extra benefit--in the same way that Galz who killed Insomniac got an extra benefit--and I think that if Eevee is lynched, it will likely be the person with who hammers? I don't know... maybe I am making this up.

But if someone does get this benefit, it should be the person who is most townie. We don't want to give out this benefit to someone that is mafia!

I agree with you on this, and here's some theory on the last part.


If we look at this through Eevee's perspective:

Let's say he's a normal Serial Killer. He's screwed. Now that we know his kill flavor, if he steps out of line, even once, he's going to be lynched. And even if he listens to us, he's still going to be lynched as the game draws to a close. So he might as well follow along, and then screw Town up at the most pivotal part, risking the next day lynch.

But Eevee isn't a normal Serial Killer, he's a MA, which makes him even more dangerous:

Imagine the above scenario, but instead of just killing 1 Town member, completely screwing with Town by activating some super powerful power. He had Bulletproof and Lightning Rod. There's no telling what else he could be getting.

No, I think if we let him live, we let him live one day so that he could activate the Lightning Rod. Or he could not and kill someone that we need. It makes this tricky, so maybe it's better off that we just lynch him today. I don't know, but I agree with yuma that we should agree on someone to hammer just incase of some 1-shot power distribution.

In case I get called out on this later: I don't want to be called scummy later for not voting for Eevee if he flips scum. Everyone knows I find him scummy. There is a deliberate reason I'm not voting for him, and that reason is to prevent derphammers as well as ensure the towniest player is the one that hammers him instead of some random Joe.


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Even in the completely backwards world just suggested by Ashersky where BOTH Eevee and I are lying (What's Eevee have to gain from that again? Oh, and while you're answering that, please explain Eevee surviving Robz Vig shot), then my hammering Eevee would give me no benefit since he's "just normal scum".
Vote: Eevee
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Vote: Eevee
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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LAMAS
(Lynch all major arcana scum)

Why are we even thinking of letting him live? An unknown major arcana is incredibly dangerous.
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Do we really want Galz to get all the MA power in this game?  I'm still worried he's playing us.
Who do you think should get it?
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Do we really want Galz to get all the MA power in this game?  I'm still worried he's playing us.
Who do you think should get it?
I guess it doesnt matter now.
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Do we really want Galz to get all the MA power in this game?  I'm still worried he's playing us.
Who do you think should get it?

Too late, Galz derphammered.  Super scummy move, I think, even though Eevee is scum (I think), to steal MA powers like that without further discussion.
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Do we really want Galz to get all the MA power in this game?  I'm still worried he's playing us.
Who do you think should get it?

Too late, Galz derphammered.  Super scummy move, I think, even though Eevee is scum (I think), to steal MA powers like that without further discussion.

Actually, I take that back, I think Galz put Eevee back to L-1.
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gg guys im town.
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Do we really want Galz to get all the MA power in this game?  I'm still worried he's playing us.
Who do you think should get it?

Too late, Galz derphammered.  Super scummy move, I think, even though Eevee is scum (I think), to steal MA powers like that without further discussion.

It wasn't worth letting someone else take them on a real derphammer, when there is no possible way for me to be scum.

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Wait, yuma unvoted, forgot to take that into account, GAHHHHH
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Try again then: Unvote
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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gg guys im town.
oh wait, im not.

nice to know though.  :)

PPE: VOTE: Eevee. Okay THERE we go
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Vote: Eevee
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Ok there.

I kind of wanted to get on that for when we go back for voting patterns, but eh. I said why I wasn't

Hopefully Galz inherits that Lightning Rod.
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