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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2012, 07:35:45 pm »
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I hope there will be people left to play with me when I'm back to full availability in a week
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2012, 07:39:29 pm »
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Heh, well, the issue here is once Confucious dies, they lose that 1 science, and become just Dramas, and Drama isn't great (Opera and Movies can be, Drama... less so). And of course, this is all contingent on also getting both of them, AND building the Parthenon.

Yeah, but it's not meant to be a staple for the game, just a damn good leg up early - and it's not like those Religion's can't be upgraded to Theology later, to set yourself in Happy for the game. I mean, even with just Confucious, while he dies eventually, killing two birds with one stone (Science/Happy) lets you really conserve early resources. Yeah, the Parthenon in just a nice add on. But the strength comes from Science+Happy together, early in Age A.

It's not dominant, but I think it stands quite strongly against almost anything else that was offered in just the Base game.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2012, 07:39:39 pm »
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I hope there will be people left to play with me when I'm back to full availability in a week

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.


Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2012, 07:42:09 pm »
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Btw, you really don't need happy faces early in age A
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2012, 07:44:04 pm »
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Btw, you really don't need happy faces early in age A

No, but having them in Age I without having to go out of your way to get them, is particularly nice, especially if those faces come with free Science attached.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.


Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #55 on: December 28, 2012, 07:54:20 pm »
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Btw, you really don't need happy faces early in age A

Also, I often find that I don't like leaving workers sitting unused in my pool, and find places to use them. So without early Happy, I have Civil disorder. I don't usually need more that ONE in Age A, although occasionally 2 Happy doesn't go amiss if increasing my population is easy (Leader, Frugality, whatever).
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.


Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2012, 08:10:35 pm »
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Can you provide links to the new games for watching?
Also, how many games have you played already, Galz?
Three Weeks ago you didn't even know the rules, and now you're already talking about what you usually do.
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2012, 08:13:21 pm »
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Can you provide links to the new games for watching?
Also, how many games have you played already, Galz?
Three Weeks ago you didn't even know the rules, and now you're already talking about what you usually do.

Way too many. I've got 13 completed, ranging from 2-4 player games, since BGO lets you load each game with copies of yourself. So it's easy to test out heavy Military vs Heavy Science vs Heavy resources vs What happens if you miss Iron vs etc.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.


Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2012, 08:23:59 pm »
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Interesting note, although I guess it makes sense... but if you have Forefather Czech, and you're building a Wonder who has a Stage at cost "1" - while you CAN build it for "free", it DOES still steal a token marker from your bank - So if that single Token is the tipping point to Corruption, it doesn't exactly cost you "nothing" after all. :P
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.


Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #59 on: December 28, 2012, 08:26:05 pm »
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Same applies for engineering genius.
I found the normal game, can I get a link to the global one?
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2012, 08:27:24 pm »
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2012, 08:29:49 pm »
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It does, thanks
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2012, 08:34:29 pm »
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It does, thanks

I'll admit, this was the first game that I expanded to, well, expansions. So maybe it's "grass is greener" syndrome, but man do some of those cards look nice. The change to Hammurabi, for example, may seem small, but not loosing that Military Action... just feels like such an upgrade. I don't know. I'm running solo games now to play around with the new cards/changes, but it just... feels stronger all around.

But I guess that's true with any game and expansions at first. The real test is if they overshadow the original, or meld in nicely. /shrug. Time will tell I suppose.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.


Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2012, 08:41:20 pm »
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It's an insane buff. from what I've read, consensus is that it takes him from totally useless to insanely overpowered.
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2012, 09:00:14 pm »
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I believe the spanish expansions makes his military units cost one more instead, but that isn't on BGO (maybe it's not out IRL yet?). He is supposed to be one of the best leaders without his loss of military action.
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.
I hereby declare myself the best dominion player in the world. Obviously.

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2012, 02:26:38 am »
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I have printed myself some cards using Jonas Havreglids' suggestions as well as BGO 2.0. I modified Hammurabi such that instead of -1 MA, you can hold one military card less in hand. Not enough playtesting so far, but this slightly less impaired Hammy should be in the range of the other Leaders' prowess.

Also, I have to actively avoid both Confucii entering the game.

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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2013, 12:43:55 am »
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Ooh, I can navigate BGO fairly well on my phone. That'll speed up my games now.
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2013, 05:27:10 pm »
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So, I'm back now and want to play a normal game. How many people would be in?
Also, is anyone up for a blitz 2 player game tomorrow (meaning playing it in one rush)?
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2013, 05:28:41 pm »
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I'd be up for a normal game. Not so much a blitz. My wife would kill me if I played an online blitz game and not a real game with her.
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2013, 05:35:03 pm »
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I can't commit to a blitz either, but count me in for a normal!
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.


Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2013, 05:42:07 pm »
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Yeah, I'll gladly join more games :D
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.
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« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2013, 05:43:50 pm »
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Ok, 4 player game hosted.
Maybe I should mention the name is f.DStrategy.5 and the passowrd is Dominion
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« Reply #72 on: January 05, 2013, 05:55:32 am »
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My wife would kill me if I played an online blitz game and not a real game with her.
Sometimes I covet my neighbour's wife. My wife, after three games (and my assassination of her Napoleon), quipped that she doesn't need to play a game to try to make the best out of limited resources. (She does like Village and Terry Mystica, though.)
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2013, 07:59:03 am »
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hosted a Blitz gaem in case someone wants to play one, password is Dominion again.
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Re: Through the Ages online
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2013, 04:55:55 pm »
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cancelede blitz game for now, might try again tomorrow
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