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Dekryr

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HP-Vault only hits $8 3 times in 15 turns
« on: December 20, 2012, 11:02:17 pm »
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This is a loser's bracket tournament game where I try to use HP-Vault, as does my opponent. I open silver-silver to avoid having more unique cards to his moneylender silver. I buy vault before the HP. Then pick up 2 of those. I basically play with BM rules from here on out, except turn 10 where I pick up a duchy (could have been gold) thinking there's a good chance we split provinces 4-4 and I'm first player and will need the tiebreaker. Is that my major mistake? Did I need another HP? Should I buy HP before Vault? I feel like this strategy should get me to $8 more than 3 times in 15 turns? He has a moneylender and woodcutter and is faster?

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/20/game-20121220-181450-9b408f1c.html

Edit: My guess is there's just not enough money in my deck, plus I have 4 duchies. That early duchy instead of gold was probably the problem.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2012, 11:04:37 pm by Dekryr »
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Mic Qsenoch

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Re: HP-Vault only hits $8 3 times in 15 turns
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 11:10:17 pm »
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Turn 10 should be a Hunting Party, definitely too early for a Duchy. I actually think your Turn 7 Gold purchase should be a Hunting Party as well since a turn where you play at least one HP and Vault only needs a single Silver to get to $8. I could be wrong about the Gold/HP thing though.
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Re: HP-Vault only hits $8 3 times in 15 turns
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2012, 05:46:23 am »
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Simulator says buy a moneylender, one gold is ok, don't buy the early duchy.
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Re: HP-Vault only hits $8 3 times in 15 turns
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2012, 10:18:30 am »
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It surprises me that the extra unique card is good. Moneylender is just a silver in buying power and the trashing shouldn't matter as much with HP. But I guess that's why I'm just level 22. I realize that the early duchy was a mistake and I see now that an HP buy there probably would've won it for me. Thanks for the help Mic and DG.
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Re: HP-Vault only hits $8 3 times in 15 turns
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2012, 03:06:55 am »
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the trashing shouldn't matter as much with HP.

My thinking: it's not *huge*, but (a) the first card drawn by HP is still "unfiltered" and (b) trashing cards that aren't HP increases the density of HP in your deck.
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