Topic: So who's this FEEDMEMORE guy? (Read 14916 times)

WanderingWinder · « **on:** December 18, 2012, 07:54:41 am »

And how is he doing it? Anyone played him?

andwilk · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2012, 08:17:14 am »

I was wondering the same thing. Either he's really good at Dominion or he keeps beating an alternate account to ride up the leaderboard.

Or it's Donald X...

() | (_) ^/ · « **Reply #2 on:** December 18, 2012, 08:40:27 am »

I do miss councilroom so.

greatexpectations · « **Reply #3 on:** December 18, 2012, 08:51:50 am »

oooh. these are always fun to try to figure out!

the level jumps are at least plausible this time around, and it very well could just be a top 5 player's alt account. of course, to do this they would need a great win rate against top players, and i'm sure someone here would recognize playing them.

naturally though, i am a bit skeptical, due to the existence of a player named Feed Me More who is shockingly below level 0. what is more incriminating then that though, is that when i looked back i found that account at least as high as level 16 back on November 1. (and that 16 level drop is not just due to variance increase over time.) this 'Feed Me More' account hasn't picked up as many games played lately, but im guessing they just switched to another lvl 15 or so account to beat up on. this other account would be hard to find, but we can easily use Feed Me More to track FEED ME MORE's rise:

11-08-2012
FEED ME MORE +7 Levels, +24 games
Feed Me More -1 Level, +20 games
11-07-2012
FEED ME MORE +4 Levels, +6 games
Feed Me More -1 Level, +5 games
11-05-2012
FEED ME MORE +5 Levels, +9 games
Feed Me More -2 Levels, +11 games

not bulletproof, but i think occam's razor would agree that it is just another cheater.

DStu · « **Reply #4 on:** December 18, 2012, 09:34:13 am »

Quote from: () | (_) ^/ on December 18, 2012, 08:40:27 am

I do miss councilroom so.

Polk5440 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 18, 2012, 09:39:54 am »

How do you find and pull these game logs manually? I would like to pull my old logs.

D Bo · « **Reply #6 on:** December 18, 2012, 09:46:58 am »

It is amazing to me that this is worth somebody's time...

DStu · « **Reply #7 on:** December 18, 2012, 09:50:06 am »

Quote from: Polk5440 on December 18, 2012, 09:39:54 am

How do you find and pull these game logs manually? I would like to pull my old logs.

That's just the ones from yesterday.
Downloaded and extracted the all.tar.bz2 of yesterday, and then (on Linux (and Mac probably))

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grep -lE "FEED" *.html | xargs -I{} echo http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/{}"

to get the links.

edit: grep -lE "FEED" *.html searches all html files in current directory for the string "FEED" and outputs the filenames with hits. | xargs echo just puts the http://dominion.iso.org... infront of it for easy copy and paste.

greatexpectations · « **Reply #8 on:** December 18, 2012, 09:53:59 am »

Quote from: Polk5440 on December 18, 2012, 09:39:54 am

How do you find and pull these game logs manually? I would like to pull my old logs.

instructions on how to do it all here. i should probably put a step by step on how to do this (at least until CR comes back up, if it does) on the FAQ or wiki somewhere.

Davio · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2012, 09:55:50 am »

I thought Iso didn't count 1st turn resignations? Apparently, I was wrong.

An easy way to combat gaming the system would be a minimum of turns.

On the other hand, it's pretty hilarious to see these fakes every once and a while.

DStu · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2012, 09:56:36 am »

Quote from: Davio on December 18, 2012, 09:55:50 am

I thought Iso didn't count 1st turn resignations? Apparently, I was wrong.

CR didn't grepped them I think...

ftl · « **Reply #11 on:** December 18, 2012, 11:01:16 am »

They've always counted. You don't get to resign without harming your rating if you don't like your opening split.

HiveMindEmulator · « **Reply #12 on:** December 18, 2012, 11:48:37 am »

Quote from: D Bo on December 18, 2012, 09:46:58 am

It is amazing to me that this is worth somebody's time...

Are you talking about the time they spend trying to cheat their way up, or the time we spend on the detective work?

D Bo · « **Reply #13 on:** December 18, 2012, 11:53:33 am »

Quote from: HiveMindEmulator on December 18, 2012, 11:48:37 am

Quote from: D Bo on December 18, 2012, 09:46:58 am
It is amazing to me that this is worth somebody's time...

Are you talking about the time they spend trying to cheat their way up, or the time we spend on the detective work?

Oooh, sorry, I meant the time he spent to game the system. That was a bit vague there, wasn't it?

greatexpectations · « **Reply #14 on:** December 18, 2012, 12:14:01 pm »

Quote from: HiveMindEmulator on December 18, 2012, 11:48:37 am

Are you talking about the time they spend trying to cheat their way up, or the time we spend on the detective work?

me and DStu combined likely took less than 10 minutes. more time than that is wasted each day on here arguing absurd edge cases.

() | (_) ^/ · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2012, 01:17:28 pm »

Quote from: DStu on December 18, 2012, 09:34:13 am

Quote from: () | (_) ^/ on December 18, 2012, 08:40:27 am
I do miss councilroom so.

Who needs cr?

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195009-39ed091f.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195033-420faf4b.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195054-adcb086c.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195116-95f600ea.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195143-29e9be3d.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195211-fe7c2f6e.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195235-9753ad92.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195300-133ed6e8.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195334-44cc225c.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195403-b4c4d324.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195432-cc5374e7.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195455-c156bf3f.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195517-a8d3b53a.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195539-007cab5a.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195603-35ebcc3d.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195625-ac370d45.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195647-aa562bdf.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195712-60e5324a.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195737-4c74a8eb.html

Are you a wizard?

clb · « **Reply #16 on:** December 18, 2012, 01:19:16 pm »

Quote from: () | (_) ^/ on December 18, 2012, 01:17:28 pm

Quote from: DStu on December 18, 2012, 09:34:13 am
Quote from: () | (_) ^/ on December 18, 2012, 08:40:27 am
I do miss councilroom so.

Who needs cr?

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195009-39ed091f.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195033-420faf4b.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195054-adcb086c.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195116-95f600ea.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195143-29e9be3d.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195211-fe7c2f6e.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195235-9753ad92.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195300-133ed6e8.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195334-44cc225c.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195403-b4c4d324.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195432-cc5374e7.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195455-c156bf3f.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195517-a8d3b53a.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195539-007cab5a.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195603-35ebcc3d.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195625-ac370d45.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195647-aa562bdf.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195712-60e5324a.html
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/17/game-20121217-195737-4c74a8eb.html

Are you a wizard?

Or a Witch!?

Titandrake · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2012, 03:08:36 pm »

I would guess neither; Dstu just knows regular expressions.

DStu · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2012, 03:22:53 pm »

Quote from: Titandrake on December 18, 2012, 03:08:36 pm

I would guess neither; Dstu just knows regular expressions.

Actually I kind of do, but here the strict subset of regex called "string" was enough...

edit: ... which also means the -E for grep was kind of not needed...
edit: actually, when you need call yourself "a" or "Copper" or something, this might need some more sophisticated stuff...

D Bo · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2012, 10:30:17 pm »

So now that CR is back up...

http://councilroom.mccllstr.com/player?player=FEEDMEMORE

I'm guessing since no games showed up that means he hasn't played a legitimate game, if the jury was still out at all.

jonts26 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2012, 10:34:36 pm »

CR filters all games under i think 3 turns. So no, he hasn't played a real game.

Titandrake · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2012, 11:40:02 pm »

Quote from: D Bo on December 18, 2012, 10:30:17 pm

So now that CR is back up...

http://councilroom.mccllstr.com/player?player=FEEDMEMORE

I'm guessing since no games showed up that means he hasn't played a legitimate game, if the jury was still out at all.

WAIT WHAT
Oh man this is excellent. I also retroactively got an award for emptying the Curses and winning in a game about a year ago, which is nice.

michaeljb · « **Reply #22 on:** December 19, 2012, 12:10:26 am »

Maybe dougz could append PHONY to this guy's user name for a couple of days.

ipofanes · « **Reply #23 on:** December 19, 2012, 05:36:48 am »

Quote from: Davio on December 18, 2012, 09:55:50 am

I thought Iso didn't count 1st turn resignations? Apparently, I was wrong.

That'd be a bad idea. Opponent has 5/2, you have 4/3, Mint/Fool's Gold in kingdom, you resign, rating not affected?

Davio · « **Reply #24 on:** December 19, 2012, 06:18:37 am »

Quote from: ipofanes on December 19, 2012, 05:36:48 am

Quote from: Davio on December 18, 2012, 09:55:50 am
I thought Iso didn't count 1st turn resignations? Apparently, I was wrong.

That'd be a bad idea. Opponent has 5/2, you have 4/3, Mint/Fool's Gold in kingdom, you resign, rating not affected?

Well, I was also always against not having same starting hands for automatches.

mith · « **Reply #25 on:** December 19, 2012, 01:44:32 pm »

Quote from: ipofanes on December 19, 2012, 05:36:48 am

Quote from: Davio on December 18, 2012, 09:55:50 am
I thought Iso didn't count 1st turn resignations? Apparently, I was wrong.

That'd be a bad idea. Opponent has 5/2, you have 4/3, Mint/Fool's Gold in kingdom, you resign, rating not affected?

Still, seems like it would be (relatively) easy to track how often a player is the beneficiary of someone resigning, and banhammer obvious cheaters like this.

() | (_) ^/ · « **Reply #26 on:** December 19, 2012, 01:57:24 pm »

Hey guys, do you know who is on top of the leaderboard?

Mic Qsenoch

('Grats, man. )

Lesson: Don't feed the trolls, ignore them. Nolifer wants to cheat to top a list of people who play a game, he's got issues. It's probably one of you just to get some laughs. Either way I don't care, except I care enough to post this. Once we've identified a person/account as a cheater, just ignore.

Varsinor · « **Reply #27 on:** December 23, 2012, 04:03:26 pm »

Quote from: () | (_) ^/ on December 19, 2012, 01:57:24 pm

Lesson: Don't feed the trolls, ignore them. Nolifer wants to cheat to top a list of people who play a game, he's got issues. It's probably one of you just to get some laughs. Either way I don't care, except I care enough to post this. Once we've identified a person/account as a cheater, just ignore.

I strongly disagree. I think this guy's account should be deleted as quickly as possible! Cheaters like that invalidate the leaderboard as a whole - particularly if they are allowed to remain on the top spot in spite of being a clearly proven cheater. It don't think it is fair for Mic Qsenoch to be denied the official top spot. It isn't fair for the runner-ups, either.

Since it seems that nobody has brought this to the attention of Dougz yet, I have just written him a message about it, so let's hope that guy is gone soon.
I know he might be gone after a week of not playing anyway, but he could renew his top spot by a few further faked games every week. I also think it is good to show him that his scam was noticed by actively kicking him out.

Eternal shame on that pathetic cheater!

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