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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2012, 11:18:15 pm »
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Yes. I could see them having separate piles for each Prize on the second screen, which would be inelegant, but make naming the Prizes much easier when playing Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. It would be optimal if those 'piles' only appeared when you played Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. but I don't see that as likely.
The Prizes are all separate piles on the 2nd screen.

What I MEANT was if there was a pop up, like when you look at the Trash pile, or when a card is revealing from your deck.  Because the only time you care about the Prizes is when you're winning a Tournament.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #51 on: December 12, 2012, 11:34:31 pm »
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Yes. I could see them having separate piles for each Prize on the second screen, which would be inelegant, but make naming the Prizes much easier when playing Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. It would be optimal if those 'piles' only appeared when you played Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. but I don't see that as likely.
The Prizes are all separate piles on the 2nd screen.

What I MEANT was if there was a pop up, like when you look at the Trash pile, or when a card is revealing from your deck.  Because the only time you care about the Prizes is when you're winning a Tournament.

Yes, I'm perfectly aware that's what you meant. When I first though about a good interface for the Prizes, that's what I pictured too. Then I thought about what Goko would actually do and I figured they would make a separate pile for each prize, because it's less work for them and it makes the 'name a card' interface easier. Turns out I was right.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #52 on: December 12, 2012, 11:52:33 pm »
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Yes. I could see them having separate piles for each Prize on the second screen, which would be inelegant, but make naming the Prizes much easier when playing Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. It would be optimal if those 'piles' only appeared when you played Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. but I don't see that as likely.
The Prizes are all separate piles on the 2nd screen.

What I MEANT was if there was a pop up, like when you look at the Trash pile, or when a card is revealing from your deck.  Because the only time you care about the Prizes is when you're winning a Tournament.

Yes, I'm perfectly aware that's what you meant. When I first though about a good interface for the Prizes, that's what I pictured too. Then I thought about what Goko would actually do and I figured they would make a separate pile for each prize, because it's less work for them and it makes the 'name a card' interface easier. Turns out I was right.

TO be fair it ALSO fixes the problems that knights have where once its in your deck theres no good way to view the text on the card.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2012, 11:32:43 am »
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Cornucopia is available this morning!
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2012, 11:40:44 am »
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Yes. I could see them having separate piles for each Prize on the second screen, which would be inelegant, but make naming the Prizes much easier when playing Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. It would be optimal if those 'piles' only appeared when you played Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. but I don't see that as likely.
The Prizes are all separate piles on the 2nd screen.

What I MEANT was if there was a pop up, like when you look at the Trash pile, or when a card is revealing from your deck.  Because the only time you care about the Prizes is when you're winning a Tournament.

Yes, I'm perfectly aware that's what you meant. When I first though about a good interface for the Prizes, that's what I pictured too. Then I thought about what Goko would actually do and I figured they would make a separate pile for each prize, because it's less work for them and it makes the 'name a card' interface easier. Turns out I was right.

TO be fair it ALSO fixes the problems that knights have where once its in your deck theres no good way to view the text on the card.

Sarcasm detector is broken... is this a joke about how they might make a separate pile for each Knight as well? Because there's no good reason that you should be able to view the text on a Knight card that's already in your deck, unless it's in your hand or in play.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2012, 11:43:06 am »
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Yes. I could see them having separate piles for each Prize on the second screen, which would be inelegant, but make naming the Prizes much easier when playing Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. It would be optimal if those 'piles' only appeared when you played Wishing Well, Mystic, etc. but I don't see that as likely.
The Prizes are all separate piles on the 2nd screen.

What I MEANT was if there was a pop up, like when you look at the Trash pile, or when a card is revealing from your deck.  Because the only time you care about the Prizes is when you're winning a Tournament.

Yes, I'm perfectly aware that's what you meant. When I first though about a good interface for the Prizes, that's what I pictured too. Then I thought about what Goko would actually do and I figured they would make a separate pile for each prize, because it's less work for them and it makes the 'name a card' interface easier. Turns out I was right.

TO be fair it ALSO fixes the problems that knights have where once its in your deck theres no good way to view the text on the card.

Sarcasm detector is broken... is this a joke about how they might make a separate pile for each Knight as well? Because there's no good reason that you should be able to view the text on a Knight card that's already in your deck, unless it's in your hand or in play.

Its not sarcasm and I sure hope they don't but currently when the knight is in your hand if you want to read it you have to drag it around to see which one it is, I haven't played enough with knights to remember that Dame Molly is +2 actions yet and so on.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2012, 11:44:15 am »
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The bane card is marked with a purple star on either side of it and the HIGHEST cost card goes to the second tab
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2012, 12:06:01 pm »
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The bane card is marked with a purple star on either side of it and the HIGHEST cost card goes to the second tab

Well this is sure to happen at least once:

"WTF? How'd you get a King's Court?? You cheater!!"
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #58 on: December 13, 2012, 12:07:00 pm »
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The bane card is marked with a purple star on either side of it and the HIGHEST cost card goes to the second tab

Well this is sure to happen at least once:

"WTF? How'd you get a King's Court?? You cheater!!"

Yeah, if they have to have a Kingdom card on the second page, it'd be nice if it were the Bane card.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2012, 12:07:43 pm »
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The bane card is marked with a purple star on either side of it and the HIGHEST cost card goes to the second tab

Well this is sure to happen at least once:

"WTF? How'd you get a King's Court?? You cheater!!"

I don't get what everyone's complaining about... when I play Dominion in real life, I ALWAYS set up another table in the next room with the most expensive card and the Ruins on it. Only players who like to randomly go exploring in my house get to buy those cards.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #60 on: December 13, 2012, 12:19:31 pm »
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The bane card is marked with a purple star on either side of it and the HIGHEST cost card goes to the second tab

Well this is sure to happen at least once:

"WTF? How'd you get a King's Court?? You cheater!!"

I don't get what everyone's complaining about... when I play Dominion in real life, I ALWAYS set up another table in the next room with the most expensive card and the Ruins on it. Only players who like to randomly go exploring in my house get to buy those cards.

On a related note, do not attempt to let hot Lasagna shoot out your nose. It hurts.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #61 on: December 13, 2012, 01:48:42 pm »
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So I could not resist and played a game with the following kingdom:

Pirate Ship
Native Village
Island
Trade Route
Goons
Young Witch
Tournament
Hermit
Knights
Marauder
Urchin (bane)

Shelters, Colonies and Platinum

There were two full pages of cards (Goons went to the second, together with Prizes, Spoils, Ruins, Mercenary and Madman). The card display had 4 pages (36 different cards in the kingdom, should have added Fairgrounds but this would simplify setup).

I opened Urchin/Marauder, bot Urchin/Young Witch and proceeded to Curse me, which I tried to counter with Ruins and extra economy from Spoils. We both bought mainly various attacks. The game ended on 3 piles (Curses, Ruins, Native Villages we both wanted to play attacks) with 6-6 tie after 20 turns - log: http://dominionlogs.goko.com//20121213/log.50893139a2e67cff211cd7e5.1355423925554.txt
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #62 on: December 13, 2012, 02:28:28 pm »
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So I could not resist and played a game with the following kingdom:

Pirate Ship
Native Village
Island
Trade Route
Goons
Young Witch
Tournament
Hermit
Knights
Marauder
Urchin (bane)

Shelters, Colonies and Platinum

There were two full pages of cards (Goons went to the second, together with Prizes, Spoils, Ruins, Mercenary and Madman). The card display had 4 pages (36 different cards in the kingdom, should have added Fairgrounds but this would simplify setup).

I opened Urchin/Marauder, bot Urchin/Young Witch and proceeded to Curse me, which I tried to counter with Ruins and extra economy from Spoils. We both bought mainly various attacks. The game ended on 3 piles (Curses, Ruins, Native Villages we both wanted to play attacks) with 6-6 tie after 20 turns - log: http://dominionlogs.goko.com//20121213/log.50893139a2e67cff211cd7e5.1355423925554.txt

Man, I wish you'd kept a screenshot of that.
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« Reply #63 on: December 13, 2012, 04:23:57 pm »
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I kept the kingdom, so it was no problem replaying the game, and this time doing it the way that screenshots show full power of those cards. I put something on all 5 mats used in the game (which was not that easy, because the bot, after initial Young Witch cursing, went for multiple Knights and trashed my Goons and Pirate Ships before I could use them.

The main screen:
http://img105.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=429285412_img1_122_449lo.jpg

Cards page 2:
http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=429270326_img2_122_342lo.jpg

40 cards in the Trash just before I buy last Estate to end the game:
http://img203.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=429258671_img3_122_118lo.jpg
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« Reply #64 on: December 13, 2012, 04:25:29 pm »
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I kept the kingdom, so it was no problem replaying the game, and this time doing it the way that screenshots show full power of those cards. I put something on all 5 mats used in the game (which was not that easy, because the bot, after initial Young Witch cursing, went for multiple Knights and trashed my Goons and Pirate Ships before I could use them.

The main screen:
http://img105.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-24987/loc449/429285412_img1_122_449lo.jpg

Cards page 2:
http://img120.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-21193/loc342/429270326_img2_122_342lo.jpg

40 cards in the Trash just before I buy last Estate to end the game:
http://img203.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=429258671_img3_122_118lo.jpg

The first 2 don't work for me.
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« Reply #65 on: December 13, 2012, 04:31:38 pm »
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All 3 should work now.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #66 on: December 13, 2012, 04:40:32 pm »
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« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2012, 04:41:49 pm »
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Work for me.
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2012, 04:45:15 pm »
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Are there buttons that let you choose whether you want to gain a Prize or a Duchy? If not, I'm guessing there's a bug where you're forced to gain a Prize when the Duchies run out and vice versa.

I stand corrected! There's a Gain Nothing button for when the Prizes or Duchies run out. Kudos to Goko!
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #69 on: December 13, 2012, 04:47:33 pm »
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The card display had 4 pages (36 different cards in the kingdom, should have added Fairgrounds but this would simplify setup).

I guess I'm not seeing what had four pages...
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #70 on: December 13, 2012, 04:47:48 pm »
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Work for me.

Me too. Also I cannot figure out any rhyme or reason to how the cards are arranged on the second page...it hurts my brain.

For those who apparently still can't see the image:
first row: Spoils, Mercenary, Diadem, Princess, Ruins
second row: Goons, Madman, Bag of Gold, Followers, Trusty Steed
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #71 on: December 13, 2012, 05:08:38 pm »
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Ruins should probably be on the left (it's a kingdom card). It's probably determined by the order of the kingdom cards - bear in mind kingdom cards are costed from bottom left to top right, going right first.
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« Reply #72 on: December 13, 2012, 05:09:56 pm »
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Ruins should probably be on the left (it's a kingdom card). It's probably determined by the order of the kingdom cards - bear in mind kingdom cards are costed from bottom left to top right, going right first.

Maurader is top left and spoils are top left and top right.
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« Reply #73 on: December 13, 2012, 05:10:16 pm »
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The card display had 4 pages (36 different cards in the kingdom, should have added Fairgrounds but this would simplify setup).

I guess I'm not seeing what had four pages...
There are 4 buttons above the trash. If you click the top right one you will see non-basic cards used in this game. In standard games there are 10 of them and they fit on one screen. Here 4 screens are needed (10 Knights, 9 kingdom cards and the bane, Spoils, 5 Ruins, 5 Prizes, 3 Shelters, Madman and Mercenary).
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Re: Cornucopia?
« Reply #74 on: December 13, 2012, 05:22:42 pm »
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How did your trash double up?  I just played a Rats/Knights game where the trash did not double up, and it was impossible to tell what you were picking up with Graverobber.
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