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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #100 on: December 23, 2012, 12:16:45 pm »
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So I just finished my games against Masticore, and ended up winning 4-1.

First, Masticore started out on position 1, even though I should have been player 1. I ended up resigning and we played the exact same board with me as first player.

Game #1: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/23/game-20121223-082331-b2412317.html

I figured Royal Seal would help me get a lot of Grand Markets, and putting them on top is so awesome.
A Goon also helped slow him down and I ended up winning with 77 to his 58.

Game #2: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/23/game-20121223-083223-18813fe2.html

We ended up splitting the Minions 5/5, but my Embargo on the Nomad Camps after having acquired one helped me get 6 Highways and 6 of the Provinces. luliin 49 - Masticore 25

Game #3: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/23/game-20121223-084030-760dbea8.html

I definitely thought he had me, but I got quite lucky at the end and managed to Farmland the last Province and won 44 - 42 even though he had 5 of the Provinces.

Game #4: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/23/game-20121223-084816-65ee9bc2.html

I tried to build a stupid engine, when I should have gone for JOAT, like Masticore was smart enough to do.
He won convincingly with 38 points to my 24.

Game #5: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/23/game-20121223-090133-b01c4143.html

We got a 5/2 start here, which was great with Native Village, Wharf and Goons on the board.
I opened Wharf/NV while he opened Wharf/Cellar.
I had three Goons before his first, and they got me an early lead which I managed to keep throughout the game.
In the end I won with 78 to his 28.

Thanks for the set of fun games, Masticore.
Hope to see you around isotropic some time soon.
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« Reply #101 on: December 23, 2012, 03:42:10 pm »
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I finished my games with tenuki a few days ago and tenuki won 4-3.

We agreed that he would post the results so I didn't keep the logs.

The games were not close, but the overall result was. It was fun to have another scheduled match and I wish tenuki good luck for the remainder of the tournament!

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« Reply #102 on: December 23, 2012, 05:15:59 pm »
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Am I part of this shindig?
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« Reply #103 on: December 23, 2012, 05:56:29 pm »
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I eagerly anticipate my new matchup. Don't give me a bye this time :P
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #104 on: December 24, 2012, 11:37:25 am »
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jider forfeits his match against Moomi (but at least got in touch to do so properly, thanks jider!). That completes Round 2, we'll close round 3 signups later today and I'll have matchups set sometime this evening.
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #105 on: December 24, 2012, 04:29:06 pm »
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Round 3 Matches are up! Go go go.
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #106 on: December 25, 2012, 08:24:58 am »
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How come I'm put up against the highest seeded player in round 3 after beating the 2nd highest seeded player in round 2? That doesn't seem fair.
By beating Lekkit, I should have taken over his seed.
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« Reply #107 on: December 25, 2012, 08:43:46 am »
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How come I'm put up against the highest seeded player in round 3 after beating the 2nd highest seeded player in round 2? That doesn't seem fair.
By beating Lekkit, I should have taken over his seed.

It's the punishment for not leaving Lekkit to me. ;)
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« Reply #108 on: December 25, 2012, 09:58:18 am »
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So, the current round of the main tourney is being given two weeks because of Christmas. Could we also have two weeks for this round?

I only signed up for the loser's bracket because of the expectation of two weeks and will probably be unable to play if we don't get the two weeks.
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« Reply #109 on: December 25, 2012, 11:26:34 am »
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Yeah, it will last as long as the main tourney, I just fail at reading.
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« Reply #110 on: December 25, 2012, 11:28:37 am »
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How come I'm put up against the highest seeded player in round 3 after beating the 2nd highest seeded player in round 2? That doesn't seem fair.
By beating Lekkit, I should have taken over his seed.

~shrug~ Just the way we decided to do things. I would look at it as more opportunity to play better players, since there's no prize for winning the thing.

(FWIW, it's going to hurt me too, whenever I drop into the losers bracket.)
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« Reply #112 on: December 27, 2012, 09:40:38 am »
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Ok,i have just defeated Moomi 4-2.The first 2 games of the series were close,anyone could have won.All the others were more intresting games were strategy played the bigger part.

Game 1 34-31 i won  http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-041245-20fb4aae.html At start,it seemed like a boring possesion game (i didnt veto it because i thouth moomi would veto it,after a conversation we had earlier) It was a duke game,something i didnt see so i went for possesion.He also bought a potion,but once i bought my possesion , he correctly started buying dutchies.While, i thouth that the dutchies would be splitted 5-3 for him,the luck goddess helped me and i bought the last 2 dutchies,finally buying 4 of them.I also bought many estates from the start,so finally with the dukes 4-4 i managed to win.
Game 2 21-19 moomi wins http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-042246-e2d1015b.html A board which has a place to everyone's dreams(just kidding) with 3 cursers and many useless cards. So the curse war started with me winning it 6-4.Then we both bought many horse traders to draw a card from the cursers played,and villages so that we are able to play the cards we drew.Finally,his 3 salvagers and more villages gave him the win(together with his first player advantage and my 2 last dead draws).
Game 3 I won 78-64 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-044432-79a7450a.html .I tried to build an engine giving me many points from monuments per turn while,he mostly played big money.My mistake was that i bought 2 trade routes which were useless,and that i bought many cartographers which were also useless.I nearly lost,but finally i won.
Game 4 I won 25-16 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-050200-00bd4279.html My easiest win, he built an saboteur engine, while i tried to buy many cartographers and horn of plenty's.I gained too many cards per turn thanks to my hops so his saboteurs werent a problem for me.
Game 5  54-28 moomi won http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-051452-4c3aec53.html Well we had the same strategy,except from some  secondary decision.It was a governor's board with city,in which he bought a cellar which helped him a lot,while i tried to use some treasure maps.Thanks to his cellars he drew his governors easier, so he was gaining many golds,and he was also giving me too many silvers.I gained my 4 gold too late,so he won easily.
Game 6 I won 61-36 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-052223-7f92a8a6.html Intresting board,in which he bought a lookout,while i tried to draw my whole deck,so that i can trash it with forge.After that,i gained some nobles also,and i managed to defeat moomi.

Moomi was a touch oponent,and all boards were intresting,so we had some intresting games.(out of the topic the next round will be in 2 weeks right?)
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« Reply #113 on: December 27, 2012, 11:08:22 am »
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Enjoyied matches with zaubeberer fully. Was fun.
Few addings.
Game 1 34-31 i won  http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-041245-20fb4aae.html At start,it seemed like a boring possesion game (i didnt veto it because i thouth moomi would veto it,after a conversation we had earlier) It was a duke game,something i didnt see so i went for possesion.He also bought a potion,but once i bought my possesion , he correctly started buying dutchies.While, i thouth that the dutchies would be splitted 5-3 for him,the luck goddess helped me and i bought the last 2 dutchies,finally buying 4 of them.I also bought many estates from the start,so finally with the dukes 4-4 i managed to win.
I had a slight chance to get this game, but then, at the end, he hit my possesion with his possesion.
Game 2 21-19 moomi wins http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-042246-e2d1015b.html A board which has a place to everyone's dreams(just kidding) with 3 cursers and many useless cards. So the curse war started with me winning it 6-4.Then we both bought many horse traders to draw a card from the cursers played,and villages so that we are able to play the cards we drew.Finally,his 3 salvagers and more villages gave him the win(together with his first player advantage and my 2 last dead draws).
Seeing my opponent started buying horse traders, i quickly changed my tactics to salvagers to not to attack him anymore. Because I had bad luck with discarded potion (sea hag) at start, I was really suprised to win this.

Game 5  54-28 moomi won http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/27/game-20121227-051452-4c3aec53.html Well we had the same strategy,except from some  secondary decision.It was a governor's board with city,in which he bought a cellar which helped him a lot,while i tried to use some treasure maps.Thanks to his cellars he drew his governors easier, so he was gaining many golds,and he was also giving me too many silvers.I gained my 4 gold too late,so he won easily.
I even would say, that zaubererer fortune teller helped me a lot to get just-bought-governors (and golds) to work - faster flow.
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #114 on: December 27, 2012, 12:42:17 pm »
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I totally missed the time I was supposed to be playing andwilk, and while he's offered another time, I think it'd be better if I resign. Sorry Andwilk.
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« Reply #115 on: December 28, 2012, 10:05:21 am »
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Thanks benjigab, for the games.

The end result was in my favor, with 4-0 in games.

Game #1: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-061918-4ae04d80.html

First up was a Governor game, where we opened identical with Horse Traders/Silver.
I managed to get 6 Governors, which helped me secure 5 Provinces in 15 turns, with one turn more than benjigab.
End result luliin 36 - benjigab 25

Game #2: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-062430-cb785836.html

Next up was an IGG game, where I once again managed to get a 6/4 split in my advantage.
When he got a Province I was sure he'd win, but I got more Duchies than he did, and of course, what really mattered, 2 curses fewer.
End result luliin 12 - benjigab 10

Game #3: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-063250-feb1acca.html

Game 3 was not as quick paced as the earlier games, which had 15 turns maximum.
Once again, we opened identical with Young Witch/Embargo, since we go a %/2 opening with Duke as the only 5.
I embargoed the Provinces first, to turn it into a Duke game, and he quickly followed bu embargoing the Duchies as well, which made me change my game play a bit.
But with Young Witch, the curses finally ran out and we could start to green more than with just Nobles and Great Halls. I missed when the curses ran out and missed a Province oppurtunity, but I managed to win anyway with 5 Nobles, a Duke and 4 Duchies. The curses got split 5/5.
End result luliin 30 - benjigab 27

Game #4: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-064729-9d36c2db.html

The last game was really fun for me, but not for benjigab, since my turns at the end took a couple of minutes.
I analyzed the board an thought this definitely had the possibilities to be a Scrying Pool board, so I opened Swindler/Potion, whereas he opened Swindler/Tournament.
I got my first Scrying Pool quite early, but when he swindled my Potion I thought I would surely loose. His mistake was to give me a new potion, other wise he probably would have ended up winning the game.
With Margrave, Crossroads, Tournament, and a few late Governors I won after 19 turns when he ended on 3 piles "to end his suffering", as he pointed out.
End result luliin 36 - benjigab 23

All in all, I got a bit lucky in few of the games and he played well. I certainly didn't expect to win 4-0.
Thanks for the games benjigab. I definitely recommend him as an opponent, since he was really nice and a fast player.

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« Reply #116 on: December 28, 2012, 11:38:24 am »
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playing bla bla bla... (18) - Simon (DK) (197) 2-4

Game 1: playing bal bla bla.. 60-37 Simon (DK) (1-0)
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-061636-ee821fad.html
A Colony board with Mountebank. We both open Silver/Silver.
He gets a Mountebank in both turn 3 and 4. I can only get 1 in turn 4.
He gets a total of 4 Mountebanks and 3 Rabbles, while I get 2 Mountebanks and 3 Minions. Minion is the only nonterminal card on the board.
I'm going for Colonies with a lot of Platinums, but he is piling out the Provinces.

Game 2: Simon (DK) 40-31 playing bla bla bla... (1-1)
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-062531-9ad7e756.html
I open Fishing Village/Smithy. He opens Silver/Smithy.
He gos after money with 2 smithys and 3 ventures.
I build a draw engine with a Tactician, 3 Fishing Villages, 2 Smithys and a Mint to get golds.
I'm behind 9-21, but I turn it around to 21-21 with a double Province turn in turn 12, get in front with a double Duchy turn in turn 14, and end the game with a Province in both turn 15 and 16. In his last 4 turns he has to settle for a Great Hall and 3 Duchies.

Game 3: playing bla bla bla... 35-49 Simon (DK) (1-2)
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-063241-aa9a8e4e.html
He opens Potion/Silver. I open Silver/Silver. I think it's a mistake to open Potion/Silver when Golem is the cheapest potion cost card. There's only around 33,7 % chance to get a Golem in turn 3 or 4 with that opening (I used the percentages from the Chapel/Silver part of http://dominionstrategy.com/2011/03/09/basic-opening-probabilities/ to calculate this).
He goes after Tunnels, Golems and Expands, but it's too slow against my Hunting Partys and big money. And the points from his 8 Tunnels doesn't help when I get 7 of the provinces.

Game 4: playing bla bla bla... 43-30 Simon (DK) (2-2)
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-064227-e1b0671f.html
He opens Potion/Silver. I open Militia/Silver.
I get 2 potions afterwards and the idea is good Alchemist draw that ends with a Militia. But my Potion draws wasn't that lucky, so I only get 2 Alchemists.
His Philosopher's Stones are superior here. That's a card I haven't quite found out how to play with yet.

Game 5: Simon (DK) 31-30 playing bla bla bla...
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-065325-5ba2d564.html
We both open Sea Hag/Lookout.
We both buys a Silver and a Haven afterwards, and get our first 5 in turn 5. Here I buy Vault and he buys Trading Post. He gets 2 Vaults afterwards, and I get a Vault and a Market.
I use Havens as a kind of mini-Tactician setup to good turns, and even though I'm behind I manage to end the game by buying the last Province and a Duchy on my last turn to a 1 point win.

Game 6: playing bla bla bla... 26-38 Simon (DK)
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/28/game-20121228-070544-790bd378.html
He opens Swindler/Swindler. I open Swindler/Mining Village.
Thanks to the Lighthouse I get on turn 5, my Swindler hits more, and better, than his Swindlers. I win 4-2 in turning coppers into curses, and I turn a Mining Village into a Potion in the endgame with Possession as the only Potion cost card.
I get a Gold and 2 Nobles. We both spam Mining Villages, and often trash them for the +2 coins.
He gets a Forge in turn 7, and I get 1 in turn 11.
He has 4 turnsm where he can't do anything.
I end the game by turning Curse, Nobles and Estate into the last Province.
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #117 on: December 28, 2012, 03:18:27 pm »
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How come I'm put up against the highest seeded player in round 3 after beating the 2nd highest seeded player in round 2? That doesn't seem fair.
By beating Lekkit, I should have taken over his seed.

~shrug~ Just the way we decided to do things. I would look at it as more opportunity to play better players, since there's no prize for winning the thing.

(FWIW, it's going to hurt me too, whenever I drop into the losers bracket.)

I'm starting to think this is unfair to your opponents, rather than to you...
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« Reply #118 on: December 28, 2012, 10:22:13 pm »
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How come I'm put up against the highest seeded player in round 3 after beating the 2nd highest seeded player in round 2? That doesn't seem fair.
By beating Lekkit, I should have taken over his seed.

~shrug~ Just the way we decided to do things. I would look at it as more opportunity to play better players, since there's no prize for winning the thing.

(FWIW, it's going to hurt me too, whenever I drop into the losers bracket.)

I'm starting to think this is unfair to your opponents, rather than to you...

I've been thinking the same thing :)
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« Reply #119 on: December 29, 2012, 04:48:42 pm »
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I beat trusty mead 4-3

He probably outplayed me, but such is life
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« Reply #120 on: December 29, 2012, 06:35:34 pm »
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Just a few thoughts and the game logs for my match with Ibavly.
Game 1
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/29/game-20121229-130724-82e1bac1.html

Trusty Mead wins 38-15
We both open smithy silver with the 4-3 opening, and then go into border villages and wharves. I actually was a little behind when my smithy missed my second cycle, causing me not to get a wharf until turn 5. But I was able to get a little Haggler luck which brought me back into contention, and then was able to create a nice border village wharf engine. I think I did a good job of balancing my villages with my terminals early game, and this helped me cruise to a an significant province lead. Ibavly made a questionable double duchy buy turn 12, where perhaps a border-wharf-scheme would have been better. I also picked up an expand mid-game, and was able to cruise to a 23 point victory.
Game 2
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/29/game-20121229-131152-dfc6aefd.html

Trusty Mead wins 31-24
We both did similar strategies here with chapel, merchant ship, and gold. I picked up a bishop mid-game which helped give me a slight trashing advantage, as well as a marginal lead. Ibavly broke the PPR, and I was able to snatch up the last province for a win


Game 3
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/29/game-20121229-131502-08eb5ddd.html

Ibavly wins 39-19
This was a game where I was clearly outplayed. We both opened moneylender-silver. I got apprentice over venture with my 5 buy second cycle, whereas Ibavly did the smarter play and went for ventures. Aided by moneylender, Ibavly was able to get rid of copper and essentially replace them with ventures and golds, and deservingly crushed me.

Game 4
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/29/game-20121229-132050-6eb2137b.html

Ibavly wins 33-29
With vault on the board, I thought I could quickly build up to an early province and run a tournament driven deck. However, I overlook the Ill-gotten gains, whereas Ibavly does a classic IGG greening strategy. Ibavly is able to get 2 IGGs second cycle b/c of feast, and gets a quick curse advantage. I am able to get a province turn 7, and already have 3 tournaments. However, I don't get a province-tournament connection until turn 12, and by that time, my deck is loaded down with curses. The followers that I get misses the reshuffle, and thus I am only able to give Ibavly two curses. This was a mixture of oversight on my part and a little bad luck, and my deck falls apart late game. I had a chance to win with the last duchy (the third pile), but drew a hand of all greens and curses, and Ibavly takes the game next turn.

Game 5
Ibavly wins
I forgot to grab the game log on this one, but this game I thought I deserved to win. I did a rabble big money deck in a colony game, and was able to pick up the first two platinums. Ibavly originally started going for horn of plenties, but there was not +actions card, so I think that was a big mistake. I am able to get out to an early lead, but then twice in a row, two platinums are knocked off the top of my deck by Ibavly's rabble. I run out of steam at the end, and lose by 10-15 points.

Game 6

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/29/game-20121229-132937-bf14fe0c.html

Trusty Mead wins 31-29
I mistakenly open steward-salvager in an embassy BM game, whereas Ibavly opens silver steward. Of course, my terminals collide, and I put myself in an early hole. We both grab an embassy early on, but Ibavly is able to get 3 golds as opposed to 1 by me. I have to trash my silvers to get green, and it looks like Ibavly has me beat. But I take a gamble and break the PPR, and then am able to salvage a gold for the win. This was not really deserved by me.

Game 7

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/29/game-20121229-134152-2ba5fa7f.html

Ibavly wins 50-31
We both open upgrade-nothing with the 5-2 split, but my upgrade misses my second cycle and gets trapped on the reshuffle. Already, I have basically lost this game, as Ibavly uses a trashing advantage to get a turn 5 hoard. Then turn 7, Ibavly gets a nobles-gold with his hoard, and I try some desperate catch up. I get a ton of schemes, and am able to militia every turn almost, but it is not enough. I forgo a hoard and get a nobles with my first 6, a bad play caused by frustration, and never get money to support my deck. Ibavly's hoard supports heavy greening, and I get crushed.

Overll, well played by Ibavly. I got bad luck in games 5 and 7, but then again, I got quite lucky in game 6. Good luck to Ibavly in future rounds!
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #121 on: December 31, 2012, 08:00:10 pm »
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Antonidas defeats Kayo 4-1 in five tense games!

Game 1 (A 36 - K 31): A pretty low-key chapel game; I opened bureaucrat/chapel against Kayo's silver/chapel. We both got some remodels and grand markets. Kayo got some really early harems that helped him rack up a significant point lead while I was still building my deck. But I rallied and rushed for points. Thanks to some very lucky remodel draws, I was able to grab 16 points over my last two turns for the win.

Game 2 (A 38 - K 47): This set featured mountebank, gardens, and fool's gold - a bunch of potentially viable strategies. Kayo opened with fool's gold/remodel. I decided that I would try to pursue a gardens strategy while contesting the fool's golds - hence I opened fool's gold/thief, with thief being nice support for both of these cards. Seeing my logic, Kayo also got a thief. We then quickly emptied out the fool's golds... which turned on the cities that I had foolishly ignored while devising my strategy. I think I got a little unlucky by repeatedly missing $4, but fool's golds definitely turned out not to be ideal for buying gardens. In the end, I was just too slow to compete with the superior draw and buying power of my opponent's deck. I think I might have done better by not buying any fool's golds and relying on my thieves to keep his FGs in check.

Game 3 (A 48 - K 26): I saw nothing better than Jack-BM here, but Kayo tried a cool strategy where he went all-in on bishops and border villages (although he never actually trashed any border villages). But I just built up for longer than usual, and eventually I was able to take all 8 provinces in only 18 turns, buying a province every turn starting from turn 13. Jack is still pretty good, as it turns out!

Game 4 (A 48 - K 34): Another mostly BM game, this time with the power card being ghost ship. I started off trying to build a straight ghost ship money deck; Kayo opened with spy, which could have been a nice combo with ghost ship if there were any villages. He ended up only getting one ghost ship, trying to instead counter my ships with a bunch of moats; this prompted me to diversify a bit, buying markets, warehouses, and moats of my own. After a long 29-turn slog, I amassed a fairly unassailable province lead and finish the game off before Kayo could make a comeback with farmland shenanigans.

Game 5 (A 35 - K 26): My favorite game of the series, and another one that took 29 turns. Sea hag dominated on this board, but there were six viable support cards at $3 (I ended up buying all of them) and tons of useful cards in the black market deck. We both opened sea hag/scheme, but we diverged soon afterward: Kayo got an early black market, while I focused on winning the curse war by buying more schemes. My plan ended up working out very nicely. Even though my buying power briefly dipped to almost nil, I managed to hand out eight out of ten curses.
However, he was able to get both jack of all trades and ambassador from the black market deck fairly early on, two high-quality trashers that were much better than any of the trashers I eventually found with black market. In fact, around turn 20 Kayo's deck simply had so much more treasure than mine that I thought I was a goner for sure. But my deck managed to pull back into gear just as his deck started to choke again. Trader trashed a venture for five sorely needed silvers, and my superior cycling and cleaner deck managed to go the distance. My 3 schemes did incredible work this game; early on they topdecked sea hag for consistent cursing, after the curses ran out they let me play black market every turn to get the pieces I needed, and toward the end they ensured that I could lead off every turn with my lone city. Fairgrounds would have been crazy good here, as at the end of the game Kayo had 15 unique cards and I had 20.

All in all, this match was very much to my taste; nothing too crazy happened, but there were still lots of interesting decisions to be made, with both players diverging on many of them. Almost every game was quite close and endgame decisions featured prominently. Kayo was a fantastic opponent. Thanks for the great games!
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #122 on: January 01, 2013, 03:52:59 pm »
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I played my series against GwinnR.
We played without Point Tracker, without veto, with identical starting hands.
All sets were really interesting, no easy ones and basically no straight big money boards.

Here's the video:


Qvist 1-0 GwinnR / Log: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-071631-691a2bbb.html
This was an interesting set with a lot of interesting cards: Chapel, Fool's Gold, Fishing Village, Ambassador, Swindler, Workshop, Pirate Ship, Oracle
I opened Fishing Village/Workshop and got 2 Ambassador soon afterwords while he opened Workshop/Chapel and transitioned into Fool's Gold. I then had to switch to Pirate Ship what really slowed him down as I could trash some FG's and Golds later on. In the end I got the Pirate Ships up to $8 which gave me 6 Provinces and an easy 36-20 win.
GwinnR 1-1 Qvist / Log: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-072404-be0ca57b.html
I opened Double FV and tried Fishing Village/Library, but he opened Jack of All Trades/Loan and went for Fishing Village/Jack of All Trades which is similar but much faster. I bought a Cutpurse to slow him down, but that even helped him as he could draw one card more which I didn't took into account. He could easily buy 7 Provinces for a 49-28 win.
Qvist 2-1 GwinnR / Log: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-073824-caf63d0b.html
This was a Colony game with Sea Hag into Minion, a mirror match. I had bad luck in the start as he hit my good hands with Minion what really slowed me down. After the Curses were gone and split 5-5 and the Minions were gone and split 4-6 against me I tried to amass Highways and Worker's Villages and later some Envoys. He tried more a money based strategy and bought 2 Platina. I could buy the first Colony and he could later soon buy one too. With the piles being low I then had to buy a Province while he bought 2 Duchies in the next 2 turns. In the following turn I could have ended it by running out the piles, but I somehow thought I need to deplete 2 more piles. But I could end the game 2 turns later anyway for a close 31-23 win.
GwinnR 1-3 Qvist / Log: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-075146-1028f9d8.html
This was a Native Village/Bridge mirror match on a Colony board. I lost the Bridge split 4-6 while we both got 5 Native Villages. But I could get more cards on my mat on the way. This board was also pretty interesting as there was Duke and Vineyard. Especially because I lost the Bridge split I decided that I needed to go green earlier and tried to go for Dukes. In turn 11 I picked up the cards of my mat for 4 Duchies. He picked up a Potion before and on his turn he picked up the cards from his mat too. But this might have been too early. He only bought a Duchy, a Vineyard and an Estate what gave me a big lead. I then picked up 2 Dukes and 2 Trade Routes as they were already worth $4. He then rushed the Estates what confused me and let me believe that he was in the lead. But I could buy another 2 Duchies later and end the game on piles for a 33-19 win.
GwinnR 1-4 Qvist / Log: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-080951-aba42cdf.html
Another interesting one, the first one without a village and also without buy. So Merchant Ship+BM could have been possible. GwinnR went for straight Scheme/Conspirator while I decided to go for Apothecary into Conspirator. My thought was to always put Scheme+Apothecary back (with 2 Schemes in play) and then play the Apothecary which filters out the Coppers and leaves Schemes, Apothecaries and Conspirators on top of my deck which I then can draw with my Scheme. This worked out nicely, but was slow as I needed more engine components. I later added an Expand and a Monument for additional points. In turn 11 I was already down 3-0 Provinces. But his engine now really slowed down, while my engine was relatively resistant. I got lucky as he hit $7 a lot of times and I came then back for a really close 39-36 win.

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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #123 on: January 01, 2013, 04:34:54 pm »
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MrEevee wins over PitzerMike 4-0-1

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-115915-8483b193.html Eevee 24 - Mike 24
Pitzer steals a draw despite me getting a lucky 5-2 and opening bazaar-chapel to his farming village-chapel. We both go for treasure maps. I played very sloppy, breaking PPR was a huge mistake from me here.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-120440-ce095a23.html
Mike's internet/computer crashes after turn 4, I was ahead after briganding his silver and hagging his smugglers but we decide to play it again anyways as the lead wasnt obviously anything decisive.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-122247-087ec689.html Mike 16 - Eevee 42
Early embargo on silver and general aggressive embargoing (8 bought total) make the game run very weird. Chapel is less dominant than usually as I play mine for the first time on turn 12 (!) despite opening with it. I go for late treasure maps again, which is weird as I only gain them 9.3% of the time. It works out.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-123034-94fec469.html Mike 5 - Eevee 13
Fun FV+wharf+witch board. I pile out the curses to win.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-125119-0dab4257.html Mike 26 - Eevee 106
Mike doesn't notice vineyards until it's too late. I muster 41 action cards to go with my 8 vineyards, masquearade-big money stands very little chance against my margrave attacks followed by masquerade every turn.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201301/01/game-20130101-130046-ce8eaa7a.html Mike 40 - Eevee 60
Hoard and ironworks with islands. I don't know if I did anything better here really.

Overall very nice boards and a pleasant opponent. Thanks for the games, Mike!
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #124 on: January 01, 2013, 05:19:23 pm »
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Some thoughts of me to the games against Qvist:

First of all it is nice to see the game in the video in the perception of my opponent :-)

Game 1:
Fool's Gold was a bad idea, as there was the Pirate Ship which can "steal" them.

Game 2:
I think JoaT/Loan is a nice opening here, because it can enable a Fishing Village/JoaT/Library-engine by thinning the deck and by adding some silvers.

Game 3:
I should have bought more Villages and Envoys and also some Highways, but i thought i can end the game faster after my two Platinums.
In the video at 24:50 and 28:25 Qvist forgot that he can buy Peddlers. I think this happened to me as well. And it didn't prevent his win, so it wasn't a too big mistake ;-)

Game 4:
At the beginning i could get many Bridges, but now I'm not sure if this was good, because so i couldn't put many cards on my Native Village. I think it would have been a nice idea to buy a Loan here to get rid of the coppers which disturbe the Native Village/Bridge-engine.

Game 5:
Well played of Qvist again. I underestimated the Apothecary, espacially his function as sifter. And i got my first province too early assuming the game would end faster.

This were nice and interesting games, for which I want to thank. It was big fun playing against Qvist and I think i could learn some thinks. Good luck for the rest of the tournament. I hope you win, so that I can say I only lost against the winner ;-)
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