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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2013, 04:57:58 pm »
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Oh, I think I get it. There were two cards that started with Ta, so the first and third letters were used. I'm guessing Tavern and Tax Collector. If so, I have two fan cards to rename.
Tavern seems like a likely candidate for the village.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2013, 05:00:01 pm »
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Oh, I think I get it. There were two cards that started with Ta, so the first and third letters were used. I'm guessing Tavern and Tax Collector. If so, I have two fan cards to rename.
Tavern seems like a likely candidate for the village.

Yeah. I bet there'll be two village cards and TV—whether it's Tavern or T. Village—will be one of them.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2013, 05:02:20 pm »
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Based on a bit of research into Medieval guilds, here are my guesses for Guilds card names (those already revealed in bold):
<Modified to bold Herald and add another possibility I had thought of for AD...>

BEguild ($4) --> AD = Advocate (or Adept)
CBguild ($5) --> BA = Baker
CVguild ($5) --> BU = Butcher
DNguild ($2) --> CM = Candlestick Maker
EPguild ($3) --> DO = Doctor
GPguild ($3) --> FO = Founder (or Foundry)
HVguild ($5) --> GU = Guild Hall
IFguild ($4) --> HE = Herald
NHguild ($5) --> MG = Merchant Guild (or Master Guildsman)
NJguild ($2) --> MI = Miller
TPguild ($5) --> SO = Sojourner renamed to Journeyman (?)
UWguild ($4) --> TV = Trading Village (or Tavern)
UYguild ($4) --> TX = Tax Collector
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 12:46:41 pm by Thanar »
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2013, 05:05:02 pm »
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Assuming you guys are correct abut this, I hope that CM is actually Cheesemaker.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2013, 05:07:12 pm »
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Oh, I think I get it. There were two cards that started with Ta, so the first and third letters were used. I'm guessing Tavern and Tax Collector. If so, I have two fan cards to rename.
Tavern seems like a likely candidate for the village.

Or it could be Alt VP.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #80 on: June 06, 2013, 05:11:20 pm »
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Assuming you guys are correct abut this, I hope that CM is actually Cheesemaker.

Hmm, that is another strong possibility I hadn't thought of.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #81 on: June 06, 2013, 05:15:44 pm »
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GU -> Guildhouse

That's a victory card if ever I heard of one ...
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #82 on: June 06, 2013, 05:16:02 pm »
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Oh, I think I get it. There were two cards that started with Ta, so the first and third letters were used. I'm guessing Tavern and Tax Collector. If so, I have two fan cards to rename.
Tavern seems like a likely candidate for the village.

Or it could be Alt VP.

OR BOTH

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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #83 on: June 07, 2013, 10:20:23 am »
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Based on a bit of research into Medieval guilds, here are my guesses for Guilds card names (those already revealed in bold):
<Modified from before since Journeyman has to cost $5>

BEguild ($4) --> AD = Advocate
CBguild ($5) --> BA = Baker
CVguild ($5) --> BU = Butcher
DNguild ($2) --> CM = Candlestick Maker
EPguild ($3) --> DO = Doctor
GPguild ($3) --> FO = Founder (or Foundry)
HVguild ($5) --> GU = Guild Hall
IFguild ($4) --> HE = Herald
NHguild ($5) --> MG = Merchant Guild (or Master Guildsman)
NJguild ($2) --> MI = Miller
TPguild ($5) --> SO = Sojourner renamed to Journeyman (?)
UWguild ($4) --> TV = Trading Village (or Tavern)
UYguild ($4) --> TX = Tax Collector

Good call on Herald!
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #84 on: June 07, 2013, 10:28:54 am »
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MI is definitely going to be MINK, just to create more confusion with Mint and Mine.

Play Wishing Well, mumble Min..(swallow the last consonant), reveal one of these three and claim that's the one you said!
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #85 on: June 07, 2013, 10:39:10 am »
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MI is definitely going to be MINK, just to create more confusion with Mint and Mine.

Play Wishing Well, mumble Min..(swallow the last consonant), reveal one of these three and claim that's the one you said!
You'd need to mumble the vowel too...all three of those use very different vowel sounds for the "I"

"mink" uses an ee sound like "ink"

"mint" uses an ih sound like "did"

"mine" uses a long ai sound like "ice"

Don't blame me, I didn't invent this language.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #86 on: June 07, 2013, 11:05:14 am »
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MI is definitely going to be MINK, just to create more confusion with Mint and Mine.

Play Wishing Well, mumble Min..(swallow the last consonant), reveal one of these three and claim that's the one you said!
You'd need to mumble the vowel too...all three of those use very different vowel sounds for the "I"

"mink" uses an ee sound like "ink"

"mint" uses an ih sound like "did"

"mine" uses a long ai sound like "ice"

Don't blame me, I didn't invent this language.

I don't know how you pronounce "ink", but I don't use a long ee sound.

Though obviously "mine" has a different vowel sound.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2013, 11:13:31 am »
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MI is definitely going to be MINK, just to create more confusion with Mint and Mine.

Play Wishing Well, mumble Min..(swallow the last consonant), reveal one of these three and claim that's the one you said!
You'd need to mumble the vowel too...all three of those use very different vowel sounds for the "I"

"mink" uses an ee sound like "ink"

"mint" uses an ih sound like "did"

"mine" uses a long ai sound like "ice"

Don't blame me, I didn't invent this language.

I don't know how you pronounce "ink", but I don't use a long ee sound.

Though obviously "mine" has a different vowel sound.

Clearly it should be Mime---a representative of the Mummer's guild.  Has an overpay effect to gain another card.. or some weird Band of Misfits variant.. or something.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2013, 11:26:40 am »
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Mime replays the the last action card you played this turn.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #89 on: June 07, 2013, 11:29:23 am »
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MI is definitely going to be MINK, just to create more confusion with Mint and Mine.

Play Wishing Well, mumble Min..(swallow the last consonant), reveal one of these three and claim that's the one you said!
You'd need to mumble the vowel too...all three of those use very different vowel sounds for the "I"

"mink" uses an ee sound like "ink"

"mint" uses an ih sound like "did"

"mine" uses a long ai sound like "ice"

Don't blame me, I didn't invent this language.

I don't know how you pronounce "ink", but I don't use a long ee sound.

Though obviously "mine" has a different vowel sound.

I'm curious about how you pronounce "ink," then.  Does it start with the same vowel as "it"?
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #90 on: June 07, 2013, 11:36:03 am »
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Mime replays the the last action card you played this turn.

That's it.  Good call.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #91 on: June 07, 2013, 11:39:47 am »
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Hmm, I didn't think that I pronounced the vowel in "ink" or "mink" as a long e, but I totally do.  Whoa.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #92 on: June 07, 2013, 11:49:37 am »
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Hmm, I didn't think that I pronounced the vowel in "ink" or "mink" as a long e, but I totally do.  Whoa.

You pronounce it "eenk"? There are definitely accents that pronounce it that way, but it's not the standard pronunciation. According to dictionary.com, "ink" and "mink" are pronounced "ingk" and "mingk". So it's not the same as "did", but nor is it a long "ee" sound like in "easel".
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2013, 11:53:29 am »
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The issue is that there's no contrast between short-i (as in KIT) and long-ee (as in FLEECE) before ng—that is to say, it's not the case that some words have one and some have the other. That means that in words like "sing" and "mink", the vowel can sort of sit phonetically halfway between short-i and long-ee, and for some people it sounds more like one and for some people it sounds more like the other, and no one really notices because it doesn't make a difference.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #94 on: June 07, 2013, 11:58:55 am »
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The issue is that there's no contrast between short-i (as in KIT) and long-ee (as in FLEECE) before ng—that is to say, it's not the case that some words have one and some have the other. That means that in words like "sing" and "mink", the vowel can sort of sit phonetically halfway between short-i and long-ee, and for some people it sounds more like one and for some people it sounds more like the other, and no one really notices because it doesn't make a difference.

Yeah, that's what I'm struggling with.  I was just chatting with my buddy who has his PhD in linguistics to explain it to me.  He mentioned a sound shift in some parts where the "ng" in "-ing" endings became "n", but the previously ambiguous vowel stuck with being a long e, so a word like "roasting" would be pronounced as "roasteen"
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #95 on: June 07, 2013, 12:00:47 pm »
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MI is definitely going to be MINK, just to create more confusion with Mint and Mine.

Play Wishing Well, mumble Min..(swallow the last consonant), reveal one of these three and claim that's the one you said!

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« Reply #96 on: June 07, 2013, 12:01:14 pm »
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Yeah, that's what I'm struggling with.  I was just chatting with my buddy who has his PhD in linguistics to explain it to me.  He mentioned a sound shift in some parts where the "ng" in "-ing" endings became "n", but the previously ambiguous vowel stuck with being a long e, so a word like "roasting" would be pronounced as "roasteen"

Yep, I've heard of that too. It's a pain for linguists who are trying to do research on the "-ing"/"-in'" variation, since it's hard to decide how to categorize that.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #97 on: June 07, 2013, 12:07:52 pm »
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Yeah, that's what I'm struggling with.  I was just chatting with my buddy who has his PhD in linguistics to explain it to me.  He mentioned a sound shift in some parts where the "ng" in "-ing" endings became "n", but the previously ambiguous vowel stuck with being a long e, so a word like "roasting" would be pronounced as "roasteen"

Yep, I've heard of that too. It's a pain for linguists who are trying to do research on the "-ing"/"-in'" variation, since it's hard to decide how to categorize that.

And this is why linguists drink so much jynnan tonnyx.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #98 on: June 07, 2013, 12:09:00 pm »
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Based on a bit of research into Medieval guilds, here are my guesses for Guilds card names (those already revealed in bold):
<Modified from before since Journeyman has to cost $5>

BEguild ($4) --> AD = Advocate
CBguild ($5) --> BA = Baker
CVguild ($5) --> BU = Butcher
DNguild ($2) --> CM = Candlestick Maker
EPguild ($3) --> DO = Doctor
GPguild ($3) --> FO = Founder (or Foundry)
HVguild ($5) --> GU = Guild Hall
IFguild ($4) --> HE = Herald
NHguild ($5) --> MG = Merchant Guild (or Master Guildsman)
NJguild ($2) --> MI = Miller
TPguild ($5) --> SO = Sojourner renamed to Journeyman (?)
UWguild ($4) --> TV = Trading Village (or Tavern)
UYguild ($4) --> TX = Tax Collector

None of these seem like they could be a treasure.  What about Mill for "MI"?  Perhaps $0, gain a coin token, or something.  But that doesn't quite fit with the treasure-naming scheme.. a Mill is a place that makes thing, or an action of making things, not the thing that is made.  Foundry has the same issue.  "Tax" could be a treasure, referring to the specific coin as the "tax".  And makes sense giving a coin token, since a tax is something whose use is a little delayed. 

Edit: Come to think of it, Quarry is a treasure, so maybe Mill or Foundry are possible.
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Re: First small Guilds Spoiler
« Reply #99 on: June 07, 2013, 12:09:50 pm »
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If I try to pronounce "sleenk" and "slink", they sound the same.
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