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Thanks. So is Patron optional, via some sort of rule that says you never have to "reveal" a reaction for its effect? Or is it not optional, because it doesn't say "may".
I remember when I asked Donald X. about it, he had at least 10 dimensions of complexity/simplicity that he considers (some of which would fall under your three), but I expect it's the additional things that Donald X. is trying to optimize that makes it near impossible to satisfy all the types of simplicity.But seriously, you should ask him about it. The statement that you quoted from me is something I've seen him say many times.
(zigzags, polka dots, etc.)
Seems like the color possibilities for card types have just about been exhausted! Have you considered different patterns (zigzags, polka dots, etc.) for when colors can no longer do the trick?
Quote from: ben_king on November 07, 2018, 10:11:25 amI remember when I asked Donald X. about it, he had at least 10 dimensions of complexity/simplicity that he considers (some of which would fall under your three), but I expect it's the additional things that Donald X. is trying to optimize that makes it near impossible to satisfy all the types of simplicity.But seriously, you should ask him about it. The statement that you quoted from me is something I've seen him say many times.Summoning Donald X. to enlighten us. What are your 10 dimensions of complexity/simplicity? Will number 7 shock us? And when can we expect the secret history for renaissance?
The big thing that is *not* a problem is strategic complexity. It's great if a card has lots of strategic complexity, if doing well with it involves thinking about it, and it varies from game to game so that you have to reassess it, and it takes you a while to really come to terms with it.Complex things include:- lots of text, like on Noble Brigand (the big one you see me constantly worrying about)- multiple concepts, like on Jack of All Trades- making you read additional cards (this is also more text and more concepts), like Vampire- making you wonder "why would I want that, I must be missing something" like Rats- having lots of FAQs, like Band of Misfits- sending you to the rulebook to know what it does, like Candlestick Maker- invoking rules players don't really know, like "lose track" or what "kingdom card" means- adding tracking, like Smugglers- clauses you might mentally edit out, like "non-Victory" on Haggler- defying expectations mechanically, like uh something
Is there a specific reason or formula for the order types are written on cards?
The vague idea is to put the ones that determine when you can play the card first, and after that have the ones that don't mean as much. I may have been inconsistent somewhere.
(types on the same tier have not appeared together)[...]Attack, Reserve
Quote from: crlundy on November 07, 2018, 08:34:01 pm(types on the same tier have not appeared together)[...]Attack, ReserveCurious, now you mention it: on the face of it, Reserve-Attack seems like fertile ground for interesting cards!
It's really not mechanically different from Attack-Duration. Keep in mind it could never "attack" when it is called; it would have to do its thing on-play.
Bomb, Cannon, and many of the Gunpowder cards can strongly effect gameplay, particularly in a destructive way
Quote from: GendoIkari on November 08, 2018, 11:00:12 amIt's really not mechanically different from Attack-Duration. Keep in mind it could never "attack" when it is called; it would have to do its thing on-play.There's no reason why it couldn't also hurt the opponent when it's called.
Of course... but that wouldn't be related to the attack type at that point. And in would be better for avoiding rules confusion if it didn't have the attack type. IGG could have the attack type too, but it doesn't because it would mislead people into thinking Moat can do anything about it.
What advice can you give for refining game ideas?
Well I pace a lot.
Quote from: Donald X. on November 12, 2018, 04:35:54 amWell I pace a lot.Is that pace as in take things slowly, or pace as in walk around the room?
Quote from: crj on November 12, 2018, 10:00:45 amQuote from: Donald X. on November 12, 2018, 04:35:54 amWell I pace a lot.Is that pace as in take things slowly, or pace as in walk around the room?Walk around the room.
Quote from: Donald X. on November 12, 2018, 05:14:14 pmQuote from: crj on November 12, 2018, 10:00:45 amQuote from: Donald X. on November 12, 2018, 04:35:54 amWell I pace a lot.Is that pace as in take things slowly, or pace as in walk around the room?Walk around the room.At what pace do you pace? Do you pace your pacing, or are your paces unpaced?