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[Asper]

Wait, Curses are bad? But in the Base Cards edition, people are Raven about them. Now I guess I'll have to eat crow before people give me the bird.

You're gonna get some ill-gotten groans for this post.

Witch post? I can't sooth-see any posts, you hag.

I swear, the witch pun was hextremely predictable.

[ThetaSigma12]

Wait, Curses are bad? But in the Base Cards edition, people are Raven about them. Now I guess I'll have to eat crow before people give me the bird.

You're gonna get some ill-gotten groans for this post.

Witch post? I can't sooth-see any posts, you hag.

I swear, the witch pun was hextremely predictable.

Curses! I wanted to make that joke.

[McGarnacle]

Wait, Curses are bad? But in the Base Cards edition, people are Raven about them. Now I guess I'll have to eat crow before people give me the bird.

You're gonna get some ill-gotten groans for this post.

Witch post? I can't sooth-see any posts, you hag.

I swear, the witch pun was hextremely predictable.

Curses! I wanted to make that joke.

Then why is your post so much later? You must be a Swindler!

[Witherweaver]

We sure have a lot of Jesters here...

[Seprix]

We sure have a lot of Jesters here...

 Questions aren't being answered anymore. All that happens are the same old jokes being flipped and copied over and over again.

[Witherweaver]

We sure have a lot of Jesters here...

 Questions aren't being answered anymore. All that happens are the same old jokes being flipped and copied over and over again.

Some Swindler turned this Forum of questions into a Catacomb.

[ThetaSigma12]

Wait, Curses are bad? But in the Base Cards edition, people are Raven about them. Now I guess I'll have to eat crow before people give me the bird.

You're gonna get some ill-gotten groans for this post.

Witch post? I can't sooth-see any posts, you hag.

I swear, the witch pun was hextremely predictable.

Curses! I wanted to make that joke.

Then why is your post so much later? You must be a Swindler!

I didn't see it continued on the next page. Let me (e)state the obvious: This has been a p(l)easant experience.

[arcee]

Let's try a question.

You've said that Scrying Pool would be a better card without the Attack part.  Would it still Spy yourself to set up, or just live with the luck of the draw?

[Donald X.]

You've said that Scrying Pool would be a better card without the Attack part.  Would it still Spy yourself to set up, or just live with the luck of the draw?

You would just live with the luck of the draw, though of course you have a lot of other control over that luck.

Scrying Pool was that card, it did not Spy on anyone including yourself, and then I added the Spy part because I wanted the set to have another attack and the names were locked in and Scrying Pool sounded plausible as an attack. Golem was more plausible but I did not want to ruin Golem.

[mail-mi]

You've said that Scrying Pool would be a better card without the Attack part.  Would it still Spy yourself to set up, or just live with the luck of the draw?

You would just live with the luck of the draw, though of course you have a lot of other control over that luck.

Scrying Pool was that card, it did not Spy on anyone including yourself, and then I added the Spy part because I wanted the set to have another attack and the names were locked in and Scrying Pool sounded plausible as an attack. Golem was more plausible but I did not want to ruin Golem.

Thinking about it, golem could feasibly have had the fortune teller effect. It fits with the card theme.

[LastFootnote]

You've said that Scrying Pool would be a better card without the Attack part.  Would it still Spy yourself to set up, or just live with the luck of the draw?

You would just live with the luck of the draw, though of course you have a lot of other control over that luck.

Scrying Pool was that card, it did not Spy on anyone including yourself, and then I added the Spy part because I wanted the set to have another attack and the names were locked in and Scrying Pool sounded plausible as an attack. Golem was more plausible but I did not want to ruin Golem.

Thinking about it, golem could feasibly have had the fortune teller effect. It fits with the card theme.

But does it fit on the card?

[Asper]

Transmute could have cursed opponents when you trash a Potion and/or when you trash a copy of itself.

[mail-mi]

You've said that Scrying Pool would be a better card without the Attack part.  Would it still Spy yourself to set up, or just live with the luck of the draw?

You would just live with the luck of the draw, though of course you have a lot of other control over that luck.

Scrying Pool was that card, it did not Spy on anyone including yourself, and then I added the Spy part because I wanted the set to have another attack and the names were locked in and Scrying Pool sounded plausible as an attack. Golem was more plausible but I did not want to ruin Golem.

Thinking about it, golem could feasibly have had the fortune teller effect. It fits with the card theme.

But does it fit on the card?

i dunno, maybe.

[arcee]

Did you ever consider not having thresholds on the variable VP cards?  You could get rid of most by rounding at the end instead of per card (so 4 gardens at 46 cards is 18 points), or just have fractional VP (18.4 points).

[McGarnacle]

Did you ever consider not having thresholds on the variable VP cards?  You could get rid of most by rounding at the end instead of per card (so 4 gardens at 46 cards is 18 points), or just have fractional VP (18.4 points).

Seems like that would be an hassle. I do wonder though, how come Alt-VP "round down" instead of "round up" for scoring purposes?

[Witherweaver]

Did you ever consider not having thresholds on the variable VP cards?  You could get rid of most by rounding at the end instead of per card (so 4 gardens at 46 cards is 18 points), or just have fractional VP (18.4 points).

Seems like that would be an hassle. I do wonder though, how come Alt-VP "round down" instead of "round up" for scoring purposes?

Don't be greedy!

[Donald X.]

Did you ever consider not having thresholds on the variable VP cards?  You could get rid of most by rounding at the end instead of per card (so 4 gardens at 46 cards is 18 points), or just have fractional VP (18.4 points).

No, fractional points were not considered. If getting smaller amounts had been important, the move of course would be to multiply VP by some amount and then use whole numbers again. I didn't consider doing that either though. I had Vineyard early on and it was never an issue doing the math and rounding down.

[Dingan]

Did you ever consider not having thresholds on the variable VP cards?  You could get rid of most by rounding at the end instead of per card (so 4 gardens at 46 cards is 18 points), or just have fractional VP (18.4 points).

No, fractional points were not considered. If getting smaller amounts had been important, the move of course would be to multiply VP by some amount and then use whole numbers again. I didn't consider doing that either though. I had Vineyard early on and it was never an issue doing the math and rounding down.

I also like the mechanic of having the different thresholds to try to get to.  It makes deck tracking more important.  "Should I get a Rats?" is much more of an interesting question if Vineyards is every 3, instead of every 1.  Etc.

[ThetaSigma12]

What made you want to redo Intruige and Base? Are Seaside and Alchemy on the table for later?

[Seprix]

I can answer question two for you, Sigma. He won't answer that, as it pertains to the future. However, I do hope along with you that he does do more with Alchemy. It could be the solution to reusing Potion, who knows.

[werothegreat]

I can answer question two for you, Sigma. He won't answer that, as it pertains to the future. However, I do hope along with you that he does do more with Alchemy. It could be the solution to reusing Potion, who knows.

I think an Alchemy sequel is more likely than an Alchemy "second edition" in Base/Intrigue style, and that's pretty unlikely itself.

[Donald X.]

What made you want to redo Intruige and Base? Are Seaside and Alchemy on the table for later?

I will post a Secret History soon.

There are no plans to replace cards in other expansions. However all expansions prior to Empires will get improved wordings.

[Chris is me]

What made you want to redo Intruige and Base? Are Seaside and Alchemy on the table for later?

I will post a Secret History soon.

There are no plans to replace cards in other expansions. However all expansions prior to Empires will get improved wordings.

Every card gets they pronouns! YOU get a they pronoun, and YOU get a they pronoun, and YOU get a they pronoun...

[Haddock]

What made you want to redo Intruige and Base? Are Seaside and Alchemy on the table for later?

I will post a Secret History soon.

There are no plans to replace cards in other expansions. However all expansions prior to Empires will get improved wordings.

Every card gets they pronouns! YOU get a they pronoun, and YOU get a they pronoun, and YOU get a they pronoun...

The replacement:

Tribute - $5 Action
The bastard to this bastard's left reveals the top 2 cards of that bastard's deck, then puts those bastards back in an order that bastard chooses.
This bastard gets 1VP per victory card revealed per other bastard sitting at the table.

[Haddock]

Will any of the cards in the update involve frobbing the snatz or jerping the hantry?