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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4425 on: July 18, 2014, 04:40:18 pm »
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I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?
So it should say "whomever" here because you are using it in the objective case as the object of the preposition "to"
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4426 on: July 18, 2014, 05:25:22 pm »
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I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?
So it should say "whomever" here because you are using it in the objective case as the object of the preposition "to"
"apply to whomever it has in play."

Who has it in play? He has it in play, therefore it's whoever.
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4427 on: July 18, 2014, 05:26:35 pm »
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so what color furniture is the most appealing?  Also, chairs, with cushions or without?

All the colors! Chairs with cusions. Otherwise you'll get a sore butt if you sit down too long.
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4428 on: July 18, 2014, 06:32:04 pm »
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I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?
So it should say "whomever" here because you are using it in the objective case as the object of the preposition "to"
"apply to whomever it has in play."

Who has it in play? He has it in play, therefore it's whoever.
Are you sure?

What is being applied? It (the effect in question) is being applied.

It's being applied to whom? "Whoever has it in play" has the effect applied to them.

Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2014, 06:34:36 pm by markusin »
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4429 on: July 18, 2014, 06:39:40 pm »
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Wait, is "whomever" even a word? I don't think I've ever seen it written.
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« Reply #4430 on: July 18, 2014, 06:55:37 pm »
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if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4431 on: July 18, 2014, 07:03:53 pm »
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Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4432 on: July 18, 2014, 07:24:01 pm »
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Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."

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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4433 on: July 18, 2014, 07:37:51 pm »
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Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."

Blasphemy!  I took thee for thy better.

Thy tongue betrayeth thee. Mayhaps ye old bar of soap can purge such nonsense from thy mouth!
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4434 on: July 18, 2014, 07:47:24 pm »
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if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4435 on: July 18, 2014, 08:01:14 pm »
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"Whom" and "whomever" are both used commonly in the standard way. 
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« Reply #4436 on: July 18, 2014, 08:03:16 pm »
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I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?
So it should say "whomever" here because you are using it in the objective case as the object of the preposition "to"
"apply to whomever it has in play."

Who has it in play? He has it in play, therefore it's whoever.

"Apply to  ".  Consider putting yourself in there.  Is it "apply to me" or "apply to I"? 
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4437 on: July 18, 2014, 08:19:25 pm »
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Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."
My brother, as a linguistics graduate, says the same thing. I could have asked him about this, but he wasn't around.
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4438 on: July 18, 2014, 08:29:55 pm »
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Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."

"Ye" is just an orthographical variant of "the".  English used to use the letter "thorn" to denote the "th" sound.  "y" looks a bit like an incomplete thorn and was used until eventually "th" won out leaving us with the.
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4439 on: July 18, 2014, 08:34:36 pm »
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if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4440 on: July 18, 2014, 10:13:34 pm »
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if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"

I would use whose. Anthropomorphization ftw

Also, I assume that "f.e." stands for for "for example," but it's not an acronym I've seen anyone else use. "e.g." is the standard in English AFAIK (short for Latin Exempli Gratia)
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« Reply #4441 on: July 18, 2014, 10:37:32 pm »
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if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"

I would use whose. Anthropomorphization ftw

Also, I assume that "f.e." stands for for "for example," but it's not an acronym I've seen anyone else use. "e.g." is the standard in English AFAIK (short for Latin Exempli Gratia)

orly? i use it all the time. but i've never seen anyone else using it, now that i think about it. thanks, that's probably a good thing to stop doing.

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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4442 on: July 18, 2014, 10:40:55 pm »
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if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"

I would use whose. Anthropomorphization ftw

Also, I assume that "f.e." stands for for "for example," but it's not an acronym I've seen anyone else use. "e.g." is the standard in English AFAIK (short for Latin Exempli Gratia)

orly? i use it all the time. but i've never seen anyone else using it, now that i think about it. thanks, that's probably a good thing to stop doing.

Yeah, use "e.g." for examples.  Also note that people often confuse it with "i.e", which is not for examples but rather to clarify something specific.  For more info, check out this Oatmeal comic.
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4443 on: July 18, 2014, 11:40:09 pm »
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"Ye" is just an orthographical variant of "the".  English used to use the letter "thorn" to denote the "th" sound.  "y" looks a bit like an incomplete thorn and was used until eventually "th" won out leaving us with the.
"Ye" isn't "just" that; I was referring to "ye" as in "whom do ye trust?" We say "you" there now, although back then "you" was just the plural form of "thou."
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4444 on: July 19, 2014, 12:21:43 am »
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if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"

I would use whose. Anthropomorphization ftw

Also, I assume that "f.e." stands for for "for example," but it's not an acronym I've seen anyone else use. "e.g." is the standard in English AFAIK (short for Latin Exempli Gratia)

fe stands for iron
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« Reply #4445 on: July 19, 2014, 03:49:23 am »
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Drew1023 as long as I make a game move every 5 minutes it will give you lots of time to reflect on what a pathetic ***** you are
Drew1023 how about this you are a pathetic piece of trash that spends all day playing an online card game
Drew1023 that's pretty sad
Drew1023 yeah and I am free to remark on just how sad and pathetic it is and that you are wasting limited resources of the earth existing in your sad and pathetic little life
Drew1023 if all you are doing with your pathetic little life is staying in your mommy's basement and playing an online card game than you are not contributing and simply deserve to not live. You are very lucky I don't know where you liv or I'd do the world a favor.

You would not believe how much I lol'd at this and then how disappointed I got when I realised it wasn't actually the Facebook stalking mission report.
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Re: Random Stuff
« Reply #4446 on: July 19, 2014, 04:44:16 am »
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Drew1023 as long as I make a game move every 5 minutes it will give you lots of time to reflect on what a pathetic ***** you are
Drew1023 how about this you are a pathetic piece of trash that spends all day playing an online card game
Drew1023 that's pretty sad
Drew1023 yeah and I am free to remark on just how sad and pathetic it is and that you are wasting limited resources of the earth existing in your sad and pathetic little life
Drew1023 if all you are doing with your pathetic little life is staying in your mommy's basement and playing an online card game than you are not contributing and simply deserve to not live. You are very lucky I don't know where you liv or I'd do the world a favor.

You would not believe how much I lol'd at this and then how disappointed I got when I realised it wasn't actually the Facebook stalking mission report.
I thought he was referring to that with "being slow played", too, until the second post.
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« Reply #4447 on: July 19, 2014, 11:11:04 am »
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I thought he was referring to that with "being slow played", too, until the second post.

Same here.
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« Reply #4448 on: July 19, 2014, 02:15:04 pm »
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« Reply #4449 on: July 19, 2014, 07:06:21 pm »
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Drew1023 as long as I make a game move every 5 minutes it will give you lots of time to reflect on what a pathetic ***** you are
Drew1023 how about this you are a pathetic piece of trash that spends all day playing an online card game
Drew1023 that's pretty sad
Drew1023 yeah and I am free to remark on just how sad and pathetic it is and that you are wasting limited resources of the earth existing in your sad and pathetic little life
Drew1023 if all you are doing with your pathetic little life is staying in your mommy's basement and playing an online card game than you are not contributing and simply deserve to not live. You are very lucky I don't know where you liv or I'd do the world a favor.

Aside from the fact that I also was expecting a mission report, I was amused by this exchange.

The guy is lambasting you for "wasting your time" playing a game, when he's wasting his time not playing a game. And that's normally fine; a lot of people waste their times not playing games--eating a juicy cheeseburger, curing cancer, getting laid--but he's wasting his time making fun of someone else wasting his time.

Truly pathetic behavior.
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