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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2012, 02:16:18 pm »
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Hi all, this is my first time entering a tournament and I wanted to post me (MrZNF) and my opponents (JeremBG / Jéjé) current games played;

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/04/game-20121204-114602-c982b578.html    Loss (I start)
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/04/game-20121204-120928-89464603.html    Loss (He started)
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/04/game-20121204-121852-d8ee7fad.html            Win (I start)
MISSING LINK                                                              Win (He started)
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/04/game-20121204-123428-dc0cc053.html    Win (I start)

I´m missing the link to our fourth game and my opponent has only made text copies of the logs. I hope that´s okay still. I also noticed we did something wrong, we kept alternating the one who starts instead of letting the loser go first. Also am hoping that this won´t be a problem. We´ll be playing the last game(s) on Thursday.

Thanks a lot for organizing this tournament, it has already been a nice experience!

Ok, to add to this, the last and final game:
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/06/game-20121206-111026-d3793be6.html Won (I start, this was a mistake, but JéJé made the game and I only noticed just now...)

Thanks for playing JéJé, you were a fair opponent to play and totally crushed me when the torturers were on the board. I somehow am not able to play well whenever they are the board :( The other games were all quite close, though the last one I was definitely in the lead almost the entire game. Thanks again for playing and may I die an honorary death in the next round XD
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2012, 07:22:20 pm »
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Hey Guys, going forward it might start getting a little confusing in here, especially if people start rounds early, so when you submit your results make sure to include the round, participants, and final score at the beginning. Thanks.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2012, 08:30:58 pm »
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#31 grobstein defeats #34 D Bo in first round match 4-2

Game 1
grobstein 37-21
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/06/game-20121206-160220-bda0e029.html
This game was not close at all. I perceived this to be a BM game with Merchant Ship and maybe Stash. When my opponent opened Haven I was like, deal. And then he Havened Treasure Maps. Twice. And the game ended with me wondering what just happened.

Game 2
D Bo 57-44
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/06/game-20121206-161806-cdee94ae.html
Easily the most fun game here (at least for me). Who doesn't love Goons, KC, Bazaar, Watchtower, and a few nicely-timed Inns? I built a nice mid-game lead only to have him KC-Bridge and purchase three provinces, so I got a little worried that his deck was built better for the end game and attempted to three pile. Luckily it worked out for me.

Game 3
grobstein 44-40
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/06/game-20121206-163221-f1d1cfd2.html
Black Market openings for both of us due to Young Witch and Witch both being in there turn into grobstein getting both of them and me trying to rid myself of 10 curses. Then when I hope for Fairgrounds he takes that too! I'm sure I could've played better in this one to try to counter, but it never happened. He really was further ahead and played better, but I made up a bit with some late game Tunnels. Either way, too little too late!

Game 4
D Bo 46-19
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/06/game-20121206-164231-3bc06af0.html
This game kind of turned into a mess. I'm not sure if grobstein was really intending to go IGG the entire way or not, but I certainly was, especially with Gardens there. He went with University early, and there were some decent 5 cost cards to get, but it just seemed like there would be too much mess in there to deal with it. I relied mainly on Woodcutter to get some extra buys as well. I think I definitely messed up though, going for Duchies before Gardens. I assumed it made since since my Gardens were only worth 3 at that point, but in hindsight I knew they would bump up in value so I should've committed entirely. Luckily it worked out.

Game 5
grobstein 39-35
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/06/game-20121206-165222-53b58830.html
I don't think I had a plan in this game, and it really showed. I hit 5 early and went with Governor, and was able to get a few early golds. But overall I think that was a mistake. The Cities were bound to be worth a lot with curses out there as well as Gardens, and grobstein took advantage. Not much more to say really.

Game 6
grobstein 53-52
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/06/game-20121206-170613-8cbcb8ce.html
My initial thought was to go Fools Gold/Worker's Village. Man am I glad I thought a bit longer. Lighthouses were much better with all of the Torturers. And while this game was decided by 1 point, I felt like I was playing from behind for most of the game. I am not sure I made my purchases in the correct order and several times pulled up actions in the wrong order. If it wasn't for Silk Road I wouldn't have had a prayer. And there I saw on my last turn that I had the option to buy the last province for what I had counted as my 20th green card, only to realize that my counting abilities have seriously diminished as it was only my 19th.


Thanks for the matches, grobstein! I'm glad that all of our games were pretty competitive, and best of luck against *I would assume* Rabid.

And thanks to the tournament directors, definitely a fun time!
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2012, 09:06:44 am »
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Round 1: sitnaltax (15) - Simon (DK) (50) 1-4

I win my first match in my first online tournament ever =) (but that would have been true for either of us)

Game 1: sitnaltax 34 - Simon (DK) 38
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-041154-27c3aacc.html
Main cards: Ambassador and Gouvernor.
We both open Ambassador/Silver and get 1 more Ambassador afterwards (him in turn 5 and me in turn 4).
He got his first 5 for Gouvernor in turn 3,s o I thought I was in troubles when I didn't get it before turn 8. At that time he had 2 Gouvernors and an Apprentice.
I think 1 of the big differences here was, that he mostly used his Gouvernors to get Golds and I mostly used my Gouvernors to draw the Silvers I got from his Gouvernors. I didn't get 1 single Gold during the match.

Game 2: sitnaltax 29 - Simon (DK) 30
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-042027-16b4c435.html
Main cards: Remake, Witch, Tactician and Gold.
We both open Silver/Remake.
He get a Witch in turn 4. I get a Witch in turn 7.
After that he starts with buying a Tactician and buys Golds after that. I start with Golds and get a Tactician after that.
In my turn 15, after playing a Tactician last turn and a Witch this turn, I have 2 Golds, 3 Silvers, 4 Coppers, (=16$) a Curse and a Remake. I could have bought 2 provinces, but that would have left 1 province for him to buy and win the game, so I decide to Remake Curse and Copper and buy a Province and a Duchy.
It ends with me buying the last Province for a 1 point win.

Game 3: sitnaltax 48 - Simon (DK) 27
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-043614-391eb65d.html
Main cards: Swindler, Expand, Mining Village and Remodel.
He opens Silver/Swindler. I open Mining Village/Swindler.
I'm sure my opening was better taking in mind that my plan was to trash the Mining Village.
I couldn't really find a good plan for this deck. My plan was to use Loan to get a small deck, where I could use Expand every turn. That failed miserably.
He goes more after a Big Money/Expand/Remodel variant with a Festival and a Cartographer thrown in. That worked a lot better.

Game 4: Simon (DK) 38 - sitnaltax 19
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-044347-0daf97dd.html
Main card: Gouvernor.
I open Smithy/Silver. He opens Remake/Silver.
Later e gets a Noble Brigand and I get an Apprentice.
He used the Noble Brigand to steal some of my Golds, but my Gouvernors and my Smithy was too fast.
In my last turn I start with 1 Gold, 1 Silver, 2 Coppers and 1 Apprentice. I trash the Gold to my Apprentice and get anough to by the last Province.

Game 5: sitnaltax resigns when the score is: sitnaltax 7 - Simon (DK) 25
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-045515-094b2340.html
This was an ugly board with Ill-Gotten Gains, Witch and Sea Hag.
He opens Witch/Native Village and goes after the Witch/Sea Hag approach. I open Ill-Gotten Gains/Native Village and goes after the Ill-Gotten Gains approach. We split the Curses 5/5.
I throw in 2 Warehouses, 3 Native Villages and a Moneylender. He throws in 7 Native Villages and a Moneylender.
It seemed like he drew up the cards on the Native Village Mat every time it meant he could play his Witch or Sea Hag. I kept setting cards aside untill I could draw them and buy a Province.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2012, 03:35:08 pm »
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Mr Eevee won over Crazy Diamond with 4-2.
Thanx for the games and good luck in the tournament.

/CD

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-111743-cefcf75c.html

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-112622-3a77cb8e.html

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-113330-1bfd4abe.html

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-114547-f2118415.html

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-120251-ea6d4d5d.html

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-121106-854d467e.html
Round 1 game, seed 5 vs seed 60.

First of all, the match very close despite the 39 level difference (!!). Like, no way CD's actually a level 5, he played very well.

First game was perhaps the most interesting of the match. I go for fishing village-woodcutter-governor against CD's pirate ships. I didn't even consider PS that much, but the board looks rather suitable for it (governor for draw, woodcutter for buys and fishing village for actions). What would you do here, people? (I win 39-22, but he never hits any of my gold etc, I feel his deck had a lot more potential.)

2nd game, I try tunnel+vault on a colony board. CD crushes me with his highway+goons engine fueled by ironworks. 44-42 to him, wasn't really all that close.

3rd game we both open 5-2 on a lighthouse-witch board. I get three witches to his one and more lighthouses and win the curse split 8-2. Unsurprisingly the game isnt very close after that. 48-23 for me.

4th game we open 5-2 again on a very interesting board. I opt for explorer-courtyard and try a harem-silk road thing. CD goes for scrying pool, which is super awesome because trade route is on board (which I obviously help to power up quite nicely). I like alt vp a little too much, not realizing how good trade route is against it was an embarrassing mistake, CD takes a deserved 60-54 win.

5th game is weird, we both go for remakes and then scrying pools with no villages even though pawn is the only spammable action (colony board). I trash a little more and still get my economy up to platinums faster and get to do a cute trick with mandarin once (had 16 and two buys, bought a colony and a mandarin to topdeck the platinums to ensure a colony again on next turn). I also bought a transmute, got one gold from it and then farmlanded it into a scrying pool. I won 61-51.

Last game I went for fishing village, jack and a single ghost ship + a lot of gold. CD underestimated jack (big mistake, it also completely kills ghost ship's attack) and it was never very close, 36-18 for me.

Overall a very nice match, although I got to say I like dominion a lot more in veto mode. CD was a very nice opponent.

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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #59 on: December 07, 2012, 06:40:59 pm »
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The result of the 4th game between me and sitnaltax is wrong in the challonge tree. I won 38-19. Not sitnaltax.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #60 on: December 07, 2012, 07:17:09 pm »
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alex/werrew 4 - Copperrcopper 2

I only saved my games:
Game 1: 32-26
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-153854-392ea6d3.html

Game 3: 66-62
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-155229-056acae8.html

Game 5: 33-27
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-160256-1564f8c3.html

Game 6: 22-13
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-160658-222529c5.html

Good Games copperrcopper! You played well.

(Sorry copperrcopper, I didn't save the games you won, If you still have them message me the links and I'll edit them into this post)
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #61 on: December 07, 2012, 07:23:37 pm »
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Haha I only saved mine...and then I rage closed my computer.  I know the colony game I made some errors but I'll have to go back and find my mistakes in these other games.  Well played.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #63 on: December 07, 2012, 07:40:38 pm »
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Round 1: LexiphanicLemur defeats Antonidas 4-2

Game 1 (78-55): Mostly BM on a colony board; my early Mine is probably key.
Game 2 (37-53): We go for alchemists and golems on a weak board. LL's tunnels get him economy, while I don't really have a coherent plan.
Game 3 (23-43): I try to build something way too fancy and slow with alchemists and barons, while LL sticks with more focus on money.
Game 4 (18-3): I stick close to the NV/Bridge formula and end it by piling out the silk roads.
Game 5 (39-54): LL aims for provinces while I try to do vineyards supported by talismans. I think my strategy was sound here, but I made a couple bad mistakes and the lack of extra buys really hurt.
Game 6 (49-57): I don't quite get there with pirate ships. Probably the closest game.

Many congratulations to my opponent, and good luck in the rest of the tournament!
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2012, 10:07:42 pm »
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Round 2:

Stealth Tomato 4 - 0 antony

A series in which antony did not in any way deserve to get shut out but lost a coinflip in Game 1 and had horrendous luck in Game 4.

Game 1: Stealth Tomato 45 - 39 antony. A thirty-five turn Sea Hag game that comes down to the last VP buys, with me taking the last Province to edge it. The only Victory cards left at the end were 1 Harem, 1 Duchy, and 3 Estates.
Game 2: antony 27 - 44 Stealth Tomato. Better luck getting to $5 and an unexpected Governor-Province rush in a Colony game win the day. We also both mysteriously go for Scrying Pools.
Game 3: antony 23 - 45 Stealth Tomato. Interesting board here, with multiple trashing options, Witch, Inn, Nobles, and Tournament. Antony passes over a Province early for Witch-Tournament and ends up full of Followers Curses for his trouble. Inn played a significant role in allowing me to hand out Curses in a hurry.
Game 4: antony 18 - 33 Stealth Tomato. A fairly straightforward Swindler+BM game with a bit of sauce where my Swindlers work and his don't. Luck wins the day for the sweep.

Not going to lie, antony, I am pleased to move on, but I was impressed by your first-round games, so I'm a bit disappointed we didn't get to play more.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2012, 04:43:30 am »
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Round 1, mokelly vs ckb.  Winner: mokelly, 4-0.

We played veto mode, same starting hands, with point tracker.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-220804-fa418d27.html
mokelly 47, ckb 26
My key was Bishops and Peddlers.  I planned to eat a Peddler for a big boost in the endgame, but I got off to an early enough lead that I could afford to eat 3 Provinces and keep my engine going.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-222058-fce4282b.html
draw, ckb 45, mokelly 45
Hard fought.  Lack of actions, combined with only action-hungry terminals, led to a dull early and mid game.  We both went money/Wharf/Envoy, though I wondered if Pirate Ship would have cleaned up.  ckb took a strong Province lead, leaving just 1 in the pile, leading me to take a Potion / Vineyard hail mary.  When I finally drew Wharf/Menagerie and drew 10 Treasure, ckb's risky decision not to take the last Estate cost him the win.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-223058-e3a41f58.html
ckb -1, mokelly 8
University/Feast/Witches.  Curse split was 5/5.  While ckb worked on a University/Courtyard/Witch engine, I dove for a handful of Duchies and drained the Feasts and Courtyards for an early end.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-225108-a7214bad.html
ckb 12, mokelly 32
Young Witch, with Hamlet as bane card.  ckb skipped Hamlet the first go around, and I drew my Hamlet for his first Young Witch play.  Those first few turns sealed the game--I was able to give him all 10 curses and draw my whole deck most turns.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/07/game-20121207-230728-e454b5e6.html
ckb 36, mokelly 43
This was our hardest-fought game.  With Courtyards, Hunting Parties, Border Villages, Embassies, and Festivals, we both had strong engines, but it wasn't clear what ratios were best.  I ended up with most of the Hunting Parties, and that helped avoid slowdown after buying 4 Provinces midgame.  ckb took a risk with some big multi-Duchy buys to keep within striking distance, and it came incredibly close to working.  He had 17 treasure and 3 buys his last turn--enough to win if he had either 1 buy or 1 treasure more.  Kudos for a gutsy gambit, and thanks for the great match!
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2012, 11:06:15 am »
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Thanks for the matches, grobstein! I'm glad that all of our games were pretty competitive, and best of luck against *I would assume* Rabid.

Despite my best efforts, Grobstein will be playing Rabid. 

Rabid defeats Hyramgraff 4-1-1

I requested that we play with veto mode.

Game 1: Rabid 30 - Hyramgraff 21
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-051449-28b50f89.html

Rabid vetoes Scout (poor Scout  :) ) and I veto Smithy because I don't want to play against Smithy-BM.  I decide to play more of a Rabble-BM game instead.  As with almost every time I decide to play BM, I'm distracted by the shiny actions and then left without much buying power against a Festival/Haven/Rabble engine.

Game 2: Hyramgraff 9 - Rabid 71
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-052905-926d15c1.html

I veto Masquerade and Rabid vetoes Embargo.  This is a colony game with Feast but Mine and Mint as the only $5 cards in the kingdom and Border Village and Peddler as the only +action cards.  I open with Feast/Loan instead of a silver, which is likely what causes me to miss $6 until turn 11 while Rabid hits $6 on turn 4.  This early lead (plus other poor choices by me) snowballs into Rabid getting all eight Colonies.

Chatting after the game, Rabid notes that it's hard to come from behind without attacks, advice I will start applying the very next game.

Game 3: Hyramgraff 59 - Rabid 81
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-055043-f13fce80.html

I veto Sea Hag, Rabid vetoes Masquerade, this leaves the kingdom as City, Governor, Hunting Party, Jack of All Trades, Noble Brigand, Pawn, Philosopher's Stone, Spy, University, and Village.  And it turns out to be another Colony game.

This is the game that I'm most interested to hear Rabid's thoughts about.  From my side, I note that a good engine is possible, but Pawn is the only +buy until the cities are activated (and with University they will be.)  I decide to go for Universities while Rabid goes for Jack and then Hunting Parties.  I contest the Hunting Parties and we split 5/5 (during the game I thought Rabid had won the split).  Next I turn my Universities to gaining Cities, which I pile-drive, and Rabid starts buying Colonies and takes a big lead.  After the cities are gone I use my universities on the Noble Brigands.

As I'm playing catch-up the PCR and then the PPR both come into play.  Rabid is able to always have just enough of a lead to keep me from ending the game.  I manage a triple Province + Duchy turn on turn 17, but it comes at a time when I have three cards left on my deck.  Turn 18 becomes triple Duchy + Estate and then on Rabid's turn 19 we both use Governor to trash for a Duchy and end the game.

Game 4: Hyramgraff 51 - Rabid 45
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-060534-fabb9953.html

I veto Apprentice because that will leave just Trader for trashing, Rabid vetoes Coppersmith.  I attempt to play Highway/Trader/BM and Rabid goes for a Silk Road/Duchy/Estate rush with support from Cache, Fortune Teller and Nomad Camp.  It turns into a pretty tense game but I'm able to grab enough provinces and other victory cards to take the lead and hold on to it for a win.

Game 5: Rabid 34 - Hyramgraff 34
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-061907-abd5eed6.html

Rabid vetoes Treasure Map and I veto Vault.  I try to play something like double jack with Cartographer support.  The Cartographers seem to work well for me and at the end game I take a gamble by violating the PPR.  The gamble pays off and I buy the last province and claim a tie, which would have been a win save for Rabid's clutch estate buy in the endgame.

Game 6: Rabid 51 - Hyramgraff 26
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-062918-ae8586c6.html

Rabid vetoes Militia and I veto Monument because I think I have a better chance if VP tokens aren't involved.  None of the kingdom cards cost less than $4 and we both open Silver/Silver.  Mine collide in turn 3, which leaves me at a small disadvantage and then I further compound that disadvantage by buying two King's Courts with only three other actions in my deck.  The only time I manage to play KC with another action is in turn 11 when I bungle it by playing KC-Trading Post and end up trashing my whole hand.


Thanks to Rabid for the great games and good chat.  Considering that I was playing against the #5 seed in the tournament, I'm glad to have claimed a win and a draw.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2012, 02:58:14 pm »
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Round 2: werrew 4 - 3 Ipnotaizig

This was a bittersweet defeat, as at the last game for the match, my opponent declined the random sets twice because it had a goons and a saboteur and he dislikes those cards. Since the rules say that "If the players are unable to reach an agreement, they shall play with randomly selected cards" and we had not agreed (or for that matter, talked about) that declining is acceptable, I was angry that he was skewing said random selection by declining.

He told me that since we hadn't talked about it, he thought it was allowed. We agreed to make a new random selection and accept it no matter what cards came up but, alas, those were cards that I disliked. Predictably, I lost. I accept the defeat and congratulate my opponent, though I still can't shake this sour feeling that there may have been angle-shooting on his part.

Other than this, the games were good. I think he was better than me at reading the board for an initial strategy while I had a better in-game adaptation. Games were very interesting, some mistakes made by both but overall tournament-quality matches.

Congratulations werrew, good luck on the next rounds.

Out of time, will post links later if needed.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #69 on: December 08, 2012, 03:00:11 pm »
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Round 2: alex(werrew) 4 - Ipnotaizig 3

(I kept all of the games this time)

Game 1: Ipnotaizig 32 - werrew 28
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-103228-da1add8c.html
I don't generally have many comments, but I made an embarrassing mistake in this game in that I missed a 3-pile ending (last BV+last torturer) when I was 1pt ahead. I think I bought a Duchy instead.

Game 2: werrew 48 - Ipnotaizig 27
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-104105-e60bf18f.html

Game 3: werrew 38 - Ipnotaizig 33
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-105602-6bed62a4.html

Game 4: Ipnotaizig 38 - werrew 33
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-110535-8d51e44a.html

Game 5: werrew 72 - Ipnotaizig 42
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-112014-b2b51af6.html

Game 6: Ipnotaizig 61 - werrew 48
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-113056-43c3acf6.html

Game 7: werrew 21 - Ipnotaizig 13
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-114653-fa8e46f7.html

Just to clarify, yes we played early. Ipnotaizig will be without internet access for part of round 2, so he asked if we could play early:

Yes, you can always play ahead of time.

Thanks for the match Ipnotaizig, you played well. Maybe we can play again sometime?
Once again, I apologize for my part in our misunderstanding.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2012, 04:44:27 pm »
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DESTROYER wins over Loschmidt by a forfeit.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #71 on: December 08, 2012, 05:30:48 pm »
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Excellent write up Hyramgraff, thanks for the match, it felt a lot closer than the result.
You certainly put up a good fight.


Despite my best efforts, Grobstein will be playing Rabid. 

Rabid defeats Hyramgraff 4-1-1

I requested that we play with veto mode.

Game 1: Rabid 30 - Hyramgraff 21
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-051449-28b50f89.html

Rabid vetoes Scout (poor Scout  :) ) and I veto Smithy because I don't want to play against Smithy-BM.  I decide to play more of a Rabble-BM game instead.  As with almost every time I decide to play BM, I'm distracted by the shiny actions and then left without much buying power against a Festival/Haven/Rabble engine.
On turn 15 at 3 prov to 0 down I was starting to get nervous.
But then my engine kicks in and with you getting rabbled several times a turn I take control of the game.

Game 2: Hyramgraff 9 - Rabid 71
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-052905-926d15c1.html

I veto Masquerade and Rabid vetoes Embargo.  This is a colony game with Feast but Mine and Mint as the only $5 cards in the kingdom and Border Village and Peddler as the only +action cards.  I open with Feast/Loan instead of a silver, which is likely what causes me to miss $6 until turn 11 while Rabid hits $6 on turn 4.  This early lead (plus other poor choices by me) snowballs into Rabid getting all eight Colonies.

Chatting after the game, Rabid notes that it's hard to come from behind without attacks, advice I will start applying the very next game.
Neither loan or feast help in getting to $6.
My turn 4 was lucky, but my opening was also much better.

Game 3: Hyramgraff 59 - Rabid 81
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-055043-f13fce80.html

I veto Sea Hag, Rabid vetoes Masquerade, this leaves the kingdom as City, Governor, Hunting Party, Jack of All Trades, Noble Brigand, Pawn, Philosopher's Stone, Spy, University, and Village.  And it turns out to be another Colony game.

This is the game that I'm most interested to hear Rabid's thoughts about.  From my side, I note that a good engine is possible, but Pawn is the only +buy until the cities are activated (and with University they will be.)  I decide to go for Universities while Rabid goes for Jack and then Hunting Parties.  I contest the Hunting Parties and we split 5/5 (during the game I thought Rabid had won the split).  Next I turn my Universities to gaining Cities, which I pile-drive, and Rabid starts buying Colonies and takes a big lead.  After the cities are gone I use my universities on the Noble Brigands.

As I'm playing catch-up the PCR and then the PPR both come into play.  Rabid is able to always have just enough of a lead to keep me from ending the game.  I manage a triple Province + Duchy turn on turn 17, but it comes at a time when I have three cards left on my deck.  Turn 18 becomes triple Duchy + Estate and then on Rabid's turn 19 we both use Governor to trash for a Duchy and end the game.

I think this was the best board we played.
Really close game, My early few turns I draw perfectly.
Trashing estate with jack and getting $5 for HP.
After that I think I have a good lead.
I suspect something with university could be better, but much harder to play correctly.
Maybe you need more governors, less citys, but I'm not sure.
I would be interested in comments on this game as well.

Game 4: Hyramgraff 51 - Rabid 45
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-060534-fabb9953.html

I veto Apprentice because that will leave just Trader for trashing, Rabid vetoes Coppersmith.  I attempt to play Highway/Trader/BM and Rabid goes for a Silk Road/Duchy/Estate rush with support from Cache, Fortune Teller and Nomad Camp.  It turns into a pretty tense game but I'm able to grab enough provinces and other victory cards to take the lead and hold on to it for a win.

I had intended to go potion for Phil Stone.
But make the classic mistake of not underspending on turn 3 and never buy the potion.
Well deserved win here for Hyramgraff.

Game 5: Rabid 34 - Hyramgraff 34
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-061907-abd5eed6.html

Rabid vetoes Treasure Map and I veto Vault.  I try to play something like double jack with Cartographer support.  The Cartographers seem to work well for me and at the end game I take a gamble by violating the PPR.  The gamble pays off and I buy the last province and claim a tie, which would have been a win save for Rabid's clutch estate buy in the endgame.
Very strange game in which I use masq to pass Jack & haggler, and latter receive Jack. 
I just about save a draw, with my 5 v 1 duchy split making up for the 5 v 3 prov split.

Game 6: Rabid 51 - Hyramgraff 26
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/08/game-20121208-062918-ae8586c6.html

Rabid vetoes Militia and I veto Monument because I think I have a better chance if VP tokens aren't involved.  None of the kingdom cards cost less than $4 and we both open Silver/Silver.  Mine collide in turn 3, which leaves me at a small disadvantage and then I further compound that disadvantage by buying two King's Courts with only three other actions in my deck.  The only time I manage to play KC with another action is in turn 11 when I bungle it by playing KC-Trading Post and end up trashing my whole hand.
I was hoping to play KC, stable, Monument, but Monument got vetoed.
So its Money + trading post.
Both open Silver Silver, but I get $5 on both turns 3 (Trading Post) and 4 (Stables), vs $7 (Stables) and $3 (Silver).
At that point I am way ahead,  KC Trading Post is not a combo. The sort of painful rules error everyone makes once and never again.
Thanks to Rabid for the great games and good chat.  Considering that I was playing against the #5 seed in the tournament, I'm glad to have claimed a win and a draw.
Thanks for the match I had a great time.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #72 on: December 08, 2012, 06:21:41 pm »
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mrdudesir 4, toaster 2

I got really lucky in a couple of these games (including drawing goons with black market). I forgot to save the game logs, but will download them from the bulk logs after midnight and find them via a search so I can post them on here an comply with the rules. Thanks to toaster for the great match!
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #73 on: December 08, 2012, 06:30:06 pm »
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Thanks for the match Ipnotaizig, you played well. Maybe we can play again sometime?
Once again, I apologize for my part in our misunderstanding.

Apology accepted, may this be a lesson on communication for us both!
Good luck  and may we play again another day.
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Re: Thief Division: Bracket and Results
« Reply #74 on: December 09, 2012, 05:19:35 am »
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Round 2, Fabian wins 4-1 over PitzerMike

Game 1 Fabian 38 - 15 PitzerMike
(Note: Mike's browser wouldn't cooperate when we started playing, so after he installed a different browser, we restarted game 1. That's what the "required cards" in the game log are about)

I have no idea what's good on this board. I was scared of playing a strict BM type strategy (Bureaucrat or Envoy based) as I felt it would lose to a deck with 10ish Alchemist and a Swindler. I decided to go for Alchemists and try to thin out my deck with Spice Merchant. Bureaucrat could maybe help rebuild my economy, and if I got a chance to pick up a Haven, it could help spread out my terminals. Swindler is always kinda high-variance and it's tough to predict how games will go, but that's more or less what ended up happening. I had better Swindler luck overall, and Mike's deck was kind of a mess and this wasn't very close.

Game 2 Fabian 15 - 8 PitzerMike
A scary engine board with Worker's Village and Bridge and some trashing in the form of Remodel. I think I misjudged this board, deciding to skip out on Alchemists getting too many Lighthouses, especially after he got rid of his Swindler. I sort of realized that the only good card draw was Alchemist, and I got a Potion on turn 6, which didn't end up doing much. This turned into kind of a mess for both of us, with way more Lighthouses clogging up our decks than we wanted probably, and when I allowed him to win the Bridge split 6-4 after being down 3-4, I didn't particularly like my chances. However, with two empty piles I could take a pretty big lead with Province + 4 Estate on turn 13, and his deck couldn't really manage anything, and I was able to buy out the rest of the Estates.

Game 3 Fabian 42 - 49 PitzerMike
My plan was to thin out my deck a lot, and end up with a deck with some number of Bazaars and Monuments. Mike went more for a Monument/BM approach, and quickly bought lots of Provinces. I thought I was making a good comeback, and overtook the lead with two Provinces remaining. By that point my thin deck was bogged down by all the green cards though, and I couldn't get much going, and Mike could buy the last two Provinces. Don't think I did very well in this game either.

Game 4 Fabian 29 - 25 PitzerMike
I open Remodel/Fool's Gold while Mike goes for Potion/Silver, hoping to ride Familiar to victory. He gets to deal out a Curse on turn 6, and then twice more on turn 7, and I'm not too happy about that. Overall I feel my strategy isn't too bad here though, and I manage to empty the Province pile by Remodeling away Province for Province twice in the end-game. Mike was getting close to mounting a comeback with Dukes, but didn't have quite enough time.

Game 5 Fabian 58 - 39 PitzerMike
A pretty fun board where we both open Fool's Gold/Mint, and I win the split 6-4 despite being in second place due to some terrible reshuffle draws on Mike's part. He seems to be in ok shape anyway, as he gets to Goons and Apprentice first. He trashes his Mint at some point though, which I think might have cost him, as my end game of Apprenticing away Platinum to draw my deck and playing Mint for another Platinum and buying a few engine pieces is pretty good. On my final turn, I know my deck can produce $34 and three buys (one Goons, one Herbalist), so I can comfortably Apprentice away Colony, and then Apprentice another Colony, to draw my deck and guarantee victory with three Colonies remaining (I also got an extra $5 I didn't consider, since I can Mint for another Platinum).

I think I made some pretty poor decisions in a few spots, possibly from being super tired after having been up all night, so I'm definitely happy to have advanced. Thanks to Mike for some good games, see you around :)
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