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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2012, 11:20:37 am »
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Regardless of how you do it there will always be complaints and opinions.

I wish to complain about the complaints!

But seriously, thank you guys for setting this up.  I know what it's like to run a tournament like this!
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2012, 06:55:29 pm »
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I think you've done a great job setting this up. Regardless of how you do it there will always be complaints and opinions. Don't take it as personal criticism, because you absolutely don't deserve it.

Absolutely!
I already said something similar in the rules questions thread, but let me reaffirm that nothing I wrote about this tournament is supposed to badmouth the wonderful efforts you guys have put into it. Kudos and thanks for that! :D

However, I think that it is a good thing to ask questions about things which appear unclear and discuss the pros and cons of possible changes/improvements. That can be helpful for the next time and has nothing to do with personal criticism!
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2012, 06:55:40 pm »
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So with that being said a quick reply to greatexpectations' post:

we did tell people to do it. forcing them to do anything is difficult though, and i think is a potential source of too much drama.

I agree there are arguments against using mean skill (which have to be weighed). But in any case, that is no argument against my alternative proposal. To me it seems pretty obvious that it isn't fair to first tell people to play at least one game in the rules and then let them get away with it if they didn't do it. Not fair because it gives them a potentially large level advantage to not play a single game in cases where they hadn't played for several weeks or even months (variance stays low). So those that have listened to your call for at least one recent game in the rules are at a disadvantage compared to that.
Considering that there were many more people who would have liked to play, in my opinion, it would have been better to announce a little clearer that playing at least one game until Friday evening is a necessary prerequisite to play the tournament and then enforce that.
Alternatively, the variance increase since the last leaderboard listing could have been calculated separately.

Again, this is just a proposal for a (hopefully coming) next time and is not supposed to imply anything for this tournament.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2012, 09:18:50 pm »
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Are Kyrion (#114) Kirian (#119) the same person or is it just a mad coincidence that two players with such similar names are so similarly ranked?
DG and dghunter79 being #38 and #39 caught my eye.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2012, 06:31:37 pm »
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Are Kyrion (#114) Kirian (#119) the same person or is it just a mad coincidence that two players with such similar names are so similarly ranked?

I am definitely not Kyrion, which I assume is a charged Kyr.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2012, 06:59:32 pm »
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Are Kyrion (#114) Kirian (#119) the same person or is it just a mad coincidence that two players with such similar names are so similarly ranked?
DG and dghunter79 being #38 and #39 caught my eye.
Clearly dghunter is hunting DG, and he's managed to sneak up right behind him...
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2012, 04:19:29 pm »
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Are Kyrion (#114) Kirian (#119) the same person or is it just a mad coincidence that two players with such similar names are so similarly ranked?

I am definitely not Kyrion, which I assume is a charged Kyr.

Not too many chemists around, it seems.. ;-)
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2012, 04:26:07 pm »
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Are Kyrion (#114) Kirian (#119) the same person or is it just a mad coincidence that two players with such similar names are so similarly ranked?
DG and dghunter79 being #38 and #39 caught my eye.
Clearly dghunter is hunting DG, and he's managed to sneak up right behind him...

He might be hunting -dg- instead, in which case DG did him a favor.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2012, 04:55:13 pm »
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Are Kyrion (#114) Kirian (#119) the same person or is it just a mad coincidence that two players with such similar names are so similarly ranked?

I am definitely not Kyrion, which I assume is a charged Kyr.

Not too many chemists around, it seems.. ;-)
Better chemists jokes in other threads.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2012, 05:04:49 pm »
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This may be, but still I gotta praise every tiny bit among all these math guys posting around.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2012, 05:33:06 pm »
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This may be, but still I gotta praise every tiny bit among all these math guys posting around.
Good point.  I'll try to remember to do the same.  You and me and Kuildeous and Kirian, are there other chemists?
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2012, 06:27:00 pm »
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blackb, but he's not an extremely active poster. Don't know of anyone else.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2012, 11:01:08 am »
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Updated the spreadsheet's Level Statistics and Geographical Statistics.  The average level has jumped by 7 levels as only one < 10 level player (out of an initial 34) remained after Round 1.  (He sadly subsequently lost in Round 2.)  Meanwhile, every region performs almost exactly as expected, further confirming the hypothesis that Dominion skill has no relation whatsoever to nationality.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2012, 11:47:05 am »
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Added a sheet for stats on # of games played.  A high # of games played was no guarantee of safety, but those that played less than 1000 games took a heavy blow.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2012, 12:46:59 pm »
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Updated the spreadsheet's Level Statistics and Geographical Statistics.  The average level has jumped by 7 levels as only one < 10 level player (out of an initial 34) remained after Round 1.  (He sadly subsequently lost in Round 2.)  Meanwhile, every region performs almost exactly as expected, further confirming the hypothesis that Dominion skill has no relation whatsoever to nationality.

Handedness! You need to track handedness! Us lefties will dominate, I guarantee.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2012, 01:21:31 pm »
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Updated the spreadsheet's Level Statistics and Geographical Statistics.  The average level has jumped by 7 levels as only one < 10 level player (out of an initial 34) remained after Round 1.  (He sadly subsequently lost in Round 2.)  Meanwhile, every region performs almost exactly as expected, further confirming the hypothesis that Dominion skill has no relation whatsoever to nationality.

Handedness! You need to track handedness! Us lefties will dominate, I guarantee.
This would be very interesting.  I'll take down a lefty anytime I can.
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Re: Final Entry List: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2012, 05:28:50 pm »
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Just looking over the spreadsheet, it looks like level corresponds pretty well with likelihood of advancing in the tournament.
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