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[Wingnut]

What a strange game here.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201211/16/game-20121116-202358-a8fba89d.html

Kingdom: Chapel, Herbalist, Swindler, Remake, Remodel, Horse Trader's, Feast, Militia, Farmland and King's Court

I just kind of played without thinking about a real strategy until late in the game and it ended up working (I was Nameless Cult Leader) as my opponent opened Chapel (likely out of habit given this kingdom) while I went with Remake/Swindler. Maybe I was aiming for KC-Swindler (which I did play once to almost no effect).

Still, this game came down to who could do a better job of Remaking and Remodeling their way to Provinces (that and the rare KC-Feast for 3 Duchies play on turn 16).

What say everyone else here since I still don't have the slightest idea how I would play this if I ever saw it again?

[thirtyseven]

What a board, no +action or +cards! Opening Chapel/HT aiming for KC-HT for $9 and a Province is the strategy I'd pick here. A solo game where I get 3 HTs and 3 KCs gives me 4 Provinces in 17 turns (with an unlucky HT-Chapel draw after turn 2) and all 8 Provinces in just 23 turns. http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201211/25/game-20121125-174349-b93e152f.html

[zahlman]

That's scarcely better than BM... you're way overbuilding IMHO by getting more than 1 HT and 1 KC early on; unless your deck starts getting big enough that they're hard to line up. You just can't build a big enough hand to play more than one KC'd HT anyway because of the discard. And greening early is fine as long as your deck is small, since lining up HT-KC is literally all you care about. Even at 7 provs, KC, HT and nothing else, it's 10/36 to line them up in a random hand.

Also I don't think I could ignore Militia as the only Attack on a Chapel board. Not on this board, and hardly ever in general. Especially since it throws a major monkey wrench in the above strat And let's not overlook that KC-Militia gets you a Farmland, or 3/4 of the way to a Province.

[thirtyseven]

You're right about the overbuilding, I had tried it earlier with fewer KCs and HTs and didn't start choking until I got to one province remaining. And you're also right about it being ineffective against Militia, but I'm assuming the opponent doesn't realize that This kingdom is pretty frustrating...

[dondon151]

Probably ignore anything fancy here and go for the minor Remodel + Farmland interaction. Militia and Swindler will help a little bit, but Remake will change Estates to Silvers and Remodel can change the Remake into Gold/Farmland when it's done.

[ehunt]

Swindler is a monster on chapel boards. That's the direction I'd go.

[ipofanes]

The title evokes fond memories of a match where my opponent's Governor let me upgrade my King's Court to the last Province in the supply.

[gamesou]

Swindler is a monster on chapel boards. That's the direction I'd go.

Not to mention that there is an obvious target for swindling those $4 cards (Feast!).

[shark_bait]

Swindler is a monster on chapel boards. That's the direction I'd go.

This reminds me of a game I had with marin where he hit my Chapel I think 4 consecutive times (after I rebought it).  Needless to say, I lost that game spectacularly. 

[Voltgloss]

Also I don't think I could ignore Militia as the only Attack on a Chapel board. Not on this board, and hardly ever in general. Especially since it throws a major monkey wrench in the above strat

Am I missing something?  Seems to me a deck with lots of Horse Traders in it would have very little to fear from Militia.

[thirtyseven]

Also I don't think I could ignore Militia as the only Attack on a Chapel board. Not on this board, and hardly ever in general. Especially since it throws a major monkey wrench in the above strat

Am I missing something?  Seems to me a deck with lots of Horse Traders in it would have very little to fear from Militia.

It's "immune" when you have KC-HT already in hand, but in the early game with HT-C-C-E-E unmilitia'd you'd have $5 to spend but militia'd you'd only have $3 to spend (you have to discard two cards twice).

[ehunt]

Also I don't think I could ignore Militia as the only Attack on a Chapel board. Not on this board, and hardly ever in general. Especially since it throws a major monkey wrench in the above strat

Am I missing something?  Seems to me a deck with lots of Horse Traders in it would have very little to fear from Militia.

It's "immune" when you have KC-HT already in hand, but in the early game with HT-C-C-E-E unmilitia'd you'd have $5 to spend but militia'd you'd only have $3 to spend (you have to discard two cards twice).

that's not right, HT hard-counters militia. you still have a 5-card hand afterward, and you cycle.

[eHalcyon]

Also I don't think I could ignore Militia as the only Attack on a Chapel board. Not on this board, and hardly ever in general. Especially since it throws a major monkey wrench in the above strat

Am I missing something?  Seems to me a deck with lots of Horse Traders in it would have very little to fear from Militia.

It's "immune" when you have KC-HT already in hand, but in the early game with HT-C-C-E-E unmilitia'd you'd have $5 to spend but militia'd you'd only have $3 to spend (you have to discard two cards twice).

Don't forget that HT is a reaction...

[thirtyseven]

Oh yeah, duh!