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[Captain_Frisk]

Is this shraeye's phantom scumslip?

In reality it will obviously be all but random, and scum not being able to choose who they vote will make daychat a lot less useful.

The reason it could be construed as a scumslip, I guess, is that it's really, really, wrong. I imagine daychat is probably super useful, they can vet whatever they want to say with each other first. So daychat strikes me as a great thing for scum, even if they abdicate their votes to ICs.

Eevee trying to downplay the usefulness of daychat, if we agreed to his plan, is that the intended slip?

Robz imagines day chat is usefull.

[Captain_Frisk]

SFS does not A) know what a scumslip is, or B) answer shraeye's question.

Actually, that kind of fits SFS though. What scum-SFS noticeably different in Blitz3 from typical town SFS? I sort of stopped paying attention after I was nightkilled, maybe Frisk or Galz or shraeye have an opinion on that?

Does not aggressively push case.

[Captain_Frisk]

@Robz I have been involved and fully read every game SFS has been involved in and will be posting my case soon so long as shraeye things its alright this early mostly I wanted SFS to make another post before I said it to cement that he was in fact doing what I thought he was.

Interesting.

[Captain_Frisk]

@SFS: Yeah, I read what you write. I'm not sure why Frisk is confused. Frisk is being too defensive, in my opinion. I haven't moved off the fact that he was paranoid the scumslip was his.

But I still find you pretty scummy, although this is a situation where I really don't think both of you would be scum. Your conversations at each other are just too weird for you to be together. SFS's delayed RVS is still my major reason for suspecting him. Can I get that Insomniac case on SFS now?

Tries to get me as defensive, sticks with sfs

[Captain_Frisk]

What's the case against Galzria? He's the leading lynch candidate, but definitely on the townier side as far as I can tell. I do think an SFS lynch is superior there. Although, I can't really tell if SFS is super guilty of the posting style that Insomniac accused him of.

I'm also annoyed--although it's not his fault, IRL stuff--that Eevee is clearly not going to be around much more, and just disappearing for the rest of the day is probably a pretty good way to avoid getting lynched. At least it has been as we approached deadlines in other games. It would be one thing if I didn't suspect Eevee, but I do.

Then there's Frisk, and I've posted my suspicion of Frisk: his paranoia about the scumslip I did think was scummy, but I'm the only one who seems to have noticed it. Of course, some of the people may have not noticed it on purpose in order to protect Frisk, if he is scum.

That leaves Insomniac, who I don't have any specific suspicions of at the moment.

So I guess I'm like this right now:

Would lynch: SFS, Eevee

Might lynch: Frisk

Very hesitant to lynch: Galzria, Insomniac

PPE Looks like Frisk and Insomniac are on the same page as me.

Consistent with prev sumreads

[Captain_Frisk]

Uh.... SFS, Eevee, Galzria scum team?

A strange team.  Isn't Eevee's vote on Galzria, and he has expressed a scumread on SFS??

I didn't remember where Eevee's vote was, and he hadn't expressed the scumread at the time I wrote the post (PPE fail).

But, look, scum are going to be "expressing scumreads" on their scumbuddies, for sure for sure.

No comment necessary? 

[Captain_Frisk]

Why would he have genuine worry abou having committed the scumslip, unless he was the scum who made it? Maybe you don't know this, but the biggest authentic scumslip in the history of forum mafia was made by Frisk in M-VIII.

I know about Frisk's slip, but that's irrelevant here.

I am often worried about making slips as town because I feel they'll mislead town and create a mislynch.  That is the feeling I get from Frisk here.

Do you actually, though? I've only ever worried about making slips when I was mafia. And if I was told a slip had been made, I would only be especially worried it was me if I were mafia.

Robz legitimately trying to cause suspicion on a townie, but using legit argument.

[Captain_Frisk]

Robz, would you be absolutely against an Insom lynch today?

I'm not absolutely against it, but I do have a really different read on him than you do. I think he's acting just like town Insomniac. It's possible that Insomniac has learned how to fool me by now, and he's definitely pulled it off in M-XII. Here's my order, though:

Eevee--SFS--Frisk--Insomniac--Galzria--Me

I'm definitely most suspicious of SFS and Eevee. I'll drop SFS from consideration per your request, though, since I do see some towniness out of his more recent responses, and I'm more sold on Eevee anyway. Vote: Eevee

Votes Eevee

[Captain_Frisk]

Conclusion: no idea.

[Eevee]

I think my conclusion from all that is that SfS looks even worse than he did earlier. Pretty much convinced he is scum now.

Other scum Insomniac >>>>>>>>>>> Frisk >> Galzria, but that won't matter because we can just nail SfS and win.

[Jimmmmm]

Hey guys, sorry for my absence. Too much work!

Nice work with the last-minute lynch. Impressed.

Now it seems pretty straightforward. Eevee, Galz and Frisk are town, leaving Insom and SFS as the other Mafia. That seems most likely.

I think out of Eevee, Galz and Frisk, the most likely one to be scum is Eevee. If he was Town, and either one of Galz or Frisk was Mafia, they wouldn't be jumping on Robz in the last minute when they already had Eevee dead in the water. I guess if Eevee is scum, that seems to indicate that Galz is scum as well, otherwise Eevee would have targeted him instead of Robz.

So I think the two possibilities for the remaining scum are {Insom, SFS} (~75%), and {Eevee, Galz} (~25%).

[Insomniac]

Hurray. I'm not scum but I'm confident if you lynch me then sfs or vice versa we win. Vote: Sfs

[Jorbles]

Vote Count 2.1:

SwitchedFromStarcraft (1, u1): Insomniac

Not voting (5): Jimmmmm, Captain_Frisk, Galzria, Eevee, SwitchedFromStarcraft

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

[Eevee]

What do we think of Insomniac's vote on SfS? Is it designed to make me (us) think they can't be a scum pair, or what?

[Galzria]

What do we think of Insomniac's vote on SfS? Is it designed to make me (us) think they can't be a scum pair, or what?

Personally, based off yesterday's interactions, I would rather lynch Insomniac first over SFS. If they're both scum, it won't matter, but if only one is (which would mean you or CF bussed Robz - which I don't find EXTREMELY likely, I won't rule out), it seems MUCH more likely to me that it would be Robz/Ins/{Eevee, CF} than it would be Robz/SFS/{Eevee, CF}.

Ins vote on SFS is one of three things:

Scum trying to make us believe there's NO way he would vote for his other teammate, this he (Ins) can't be scum.

Scum playing into our beliefs that they're both *likely* scum, but we should lynch SFS first.

Town who knows SFS must be scum and that somebody bussed.

But he never even mentioned the logic in choice #3. He just came out and voted. I had a scumm(ish) read on Ins yesterday, and after my read of Robz was correct, I would rather trust my reads and not second guess myself. My track record of doing so has been, well, crap.

[Insomniac]

Again guys I assure you I'm town and thus not on a team with sfs. So if you need to lynch me first fine but it can be a flawless town win if we lunch sfs first

[Captain_Frisk]

Again guys I assure you I'm town and thus not on a team with sfs. So if you need to lynch me first fine but it can be a flawless town win if we lunch sfs first

If sfs is town - who woul you want to lynch tomorrow?

[Insomniac]

@CF he isn't town but I would go for Eevee if he was

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: SFS.

I also would probably vote Eevee is SFS is Town.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.2:

SwitchedFromStarcraft (2, u2): Insomniac, Jimmmmm

Not voting (4): Captain_Frisk, Galzria, Eevee, SwitchedFromStarcraft

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

[Eevee]

Pretty slow day for blitz, eh? Has SfS told us where he is?

[Galzria]

Personally I've just been avoiding the forums for the most part today. Last nights gaming was just really draining. I'm probably going to put my vote down on Insomniac though. I want to reread once first, but that won't happen tonight. I just feel so very much more convinced that Insomniac would be scum before SFS would based off yesterdays play (in reality, they're probably both scum, but I would rather not risk going down to the wire, so I would rather lynch my bigger scum read of the two).

[Insomniac]

Galz/Eevee if you are town I'm a little frustrated you cant read me after all these games together btw

[Eevee]

Galz/Eevee if you are town I'm a little frustrated you cant read me after all these games together btw

I've said it before and I say it again, I've always been terrible at reading you. Huge scum bias for some reason.

I do think I read SfS pretty good, and he reeks of scum to me even without the evidence that's also pretty damning.

I hope Galz is town and his insistence to go after you first is just him reading you better than SfS. Because the alternative is he is mafia and is working on salvaging the game for scum.

[Eevee]

Galzria, do you think town SfS would disappear on us like this?