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[thirtyseven]

A thought just popped into my head just now: in a 2-player mirror match, which player should try to start greening first? Should it be player 2, being a turn behind, in order to try to "make up for lost ground" (this brings to mind the "taking risks as p2" thread I'm too lazy to find), or should it be player 1, in order to possibly make p2, a turn behind, start greening prematurely? I'm just wondering if turn order affects "greening order" (at least as a general tendency; of course it depends on the situation).

[Drab Emordnilap]

I feel like the part of the game where you consider greening is far enough from the start of the game that the relevant question isn't who went first, it's who has a better deck currently.

That's not an answer, but I thought I'd throw it out there. If it's a Familiar board and I hit $2P as Player 1 and you hit $3P as Player 2, am I really Player 1 anymore?

[Davio]

Turn order really doesn't effect when I start greening, just the makings of my deck.

If I feel there's no sense forgoing that Province anymore, I'm taking it, be it p1 or p2. Getting the lead can be quite substantial with cards like Salvager etc. I also try to watch my opponent's deck to sneakily try to win the Vineyards split (he just passed his Potion and bought an action card).

[Archetype]

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I also try to watch my opponent's deck to sneakily try to win the Vineyards split (he just passed his Potion and bought an action card).

If he was going for Vineyards, why would he have passed a Potion?

[DG]

I think that if the second player sees the mirror match as a losing strategy then greening first can be a worthwhile gambit. Second player certainly needs to be cautious about greening a whole turn later since that can leave a major shortfall to recover.

Moving into three and four player games there might be even more incentive to take risks if only winning, and not a place, is important.

[Davio]

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I also try to watch my opponent's deck to sneakily try to win the Vineyards split (he just passed his Potion and bought an action card).

If he was going for Vineyards, why would he have passed a Potion?

What I meant was, I saw him play his Potion, but he did not buy a Vineyards with that hand.
In those cases, I might get a Vineyard with my Potion hand and buy another Potion on the same shuffle so I can possibly get the oh so important 5-3 split.

[Archetype]

-snip-
I also try to watch my opponent's deck to sneakily try to win the Vineyards split (he just passed his Potion and bought an action card).

If he was going for Vineyards, why would he have passed a Potion?

What I meant was, I saw him play his Potion, but he did not buy a Vineyards with that hand.
In those cases, I might get a Vineyard with my Potion hand and buy another Potion on the same shuffle so I can possibly get the oh so important 5-3 split.

Oh, thanks for the explanation!

[popsofctown]

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I also try to watch my opponent's deck to sneakily try to win the Vineyards split (he just passed his Potion and bought an action card).

If he was going for Vineyards, why would he have passed a Potion?

What I meant was, I saw him play his Potion, but he did not buy a Vineyards with that hand.
In those cases, I might get a Vineyard with my Potion hand and buy another Potion on the same shuffle so I can possibly get the oh so important 5-3 split.

Then why did he play the potion at all? 

[gman314]

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I also try to watch my opponent's deck to sneakily try to win the Vineyards split (he just passed his Potion and bought an action card).

If he was going for Vineyards, why would he have passed a Potion?

What I meant was, I saw him play his Potion, but he did not buy a Vineyards with that hand.
In those cases, I might get a Vineyard with my Potion hand and buy another Potion on the same shuffle so I can possibly get the oh so important 5-3 split.

Then why did he play the potion at all?

To buy a different card with Potion in its cost?

[Davio]

The answer is more simple: He pushed the +$5P button on Iso.
You could also choose not to play the Potion, but if I see someone carefully playing each Copper, you know he wants to hide something anyway.