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[Calamitas]

But there is no need for a siege...Look what happened to Harren the Black...And Harrenhall is hell stronger than Winterfell...

I'm not talking about a siege.  I'm talking about this:

However I strongly suspect this won't matter at all, since Dany is not going to sustain that much power in Season 7 respectively tWow/aDoS. Would be just ridiculous.

Sorry, missunderstanding. That might be the case as stated before, but i think that would change the situation too much (Probably two other parties owning some nukes (aka dragon)) that discussing specfics doesn't make much sense. But yes, that could lead to a Jon/Dany alliance.

[ignorentmen]

Irony: "Fuck everyone who isn't us." -- Jaime Lannister to Cersei.

Shower-thought that was probably immediately obvious to everyone, but that I just realized.

Cersei did exactly what Jaime wanted to prevent by killing the Mad King.

[Calamitas]

Irony: "Fuck everyone who isn't us." -- Jaime Lannister to Cersei.

Shower-thought that was probably immediately obvious to everyone, but that I just realized.

Cersei did exactly what Jaime wanted to prevent by killing the Mad King.

Not quite, Aerys wanted to literally "burn them all", would have meant millions of deaths rather than a few hundred.

[Kuildeous]

Not quite, Aerys wanted to literally "burn them all", would have meant millions of deaths rather than a few hundred.

She used it against her own people, so the parallel is still there, even if the scope is smaller.

At the very least, she’s going to get grief from someone for using a sledgehammer to kill a fly. Jamie seems a likely candidate.

In any case, she’s shown a willingness to commit mass murder, which should give anyone—especially Jamie—pause. She’s very capable of taking the Mad King route. This may be a reason why King’s Landing will not be so easy for Dany to take. Dany seeks to liberate and preserve. She’s a fierce ruler, but she still has a big heart. Cersei could hold her off by threatening more mass murder.

[Calamitas]

Not quite, Aerys wanted to literally "burn them all", would have meant millions of deaths rather than a few hundred.

She used it against her own people, so the parallel is still there, even if the scope is smaller.

At the very least, she’s going to get grief from someone for using a sledgehammer to kill a fly. Jamie seems a likely candidate.

In any case, she’s shown a willingness to commit mass murder, which should give anyone—especially Jamie—pause. She’s very capable of taking the Mad King route. This may be a reason why King’s Landing will not be so easy for Dany to take. Dany seeks to liberate and preserve. She’s a fierce ruler, but she still has a big heart. Cersei could hold her off by threatening more mass murder.

Latter does seem quite logical, lets see what happens.
I still wonder why they cut the valonquar part of "Maggy the frog's" prophecy, would fit perfectly regarding the new development...

[silverspawn]

I don't know. It could also be that Arya just kills Cersei before Danny even comes.

[Kuildeous]

I don't know. It could also be that Arya just kills Cersei before Danny even comes.

I suspect this may happen. In fact, it may be how they can take King’s Landing without Cersei blowing it up. Arya might not even be involved with the war. She just wants to get her revenge. I forget what her list is like, though it’s getting smaller and smaller. I know Cersei was definitely on the list. I’m not sure if Jamie was on it or not. The Hound was, but she might not be interested in killing him anymore since she already did (sorta). So she may just make her way to King’s Landing with the intent to kill Cersei and possibly save the day for Jon and/or Dany.

It seems like they’re focusing on Arya’s revenge enough that it seems unlikely she won’t be the one to kill Cersei. But then again, how poetic would it be if Jamie once more commits regicide—and against his own sister/lover too. I mean, that story’s way better than Arya’s revenge tale.

Maybe it’s both. Jamie demands she steps away from the brink of madness, she refuses, he has to fight the Mountain, and Arya sneaks in during the fight and strikes her down just as Jamie kills (or has a pyrrhic victory) the Mountain. That seems far too simple, so that won’t be the way it ends.

[Witherweaver]

I don't know. It could also be that Arya just kills Cersei before Danny even comes.

The Hound was, but she might not be interested in killing him anymore since she already did (sorta).

I don't think so, when she told Jaqen that she wanted the Hound dead during the game of lies, he called her out as a liar.  (Or, something to that effect.)

[silverspawn]

Arya straight up said that she has taken the hound off her list.

I think she's almost through. Is anyone except the mountain and Cersei still on there?

[Calamitas]

Arya straight up said that she has taken the hound off her list.

I think she's almost through. Is anyone except the mountain and Cersei still on there?

Ser Ilyn Payne is also remaining.

[pingpongsam]

Arya straight up said that she has taken the hound off her list.

I think she's almost through. Is anyone except the mountain and Cersei still on there?

Ser Ilyn Payne is also remaining.

Considering the actor is/was dying of cancer and has been phased out of the show, seems unlikely.

[Calamitas]

Arya straight up said that she has taken the hound off her list.

I think she's almost through. Is anyone except the mountain and Cersei still on there?

Ser Ilyn Payne is also remaining.

Considering the actor is/was dying of cancer and has been phased out of the show, seems unlikely.

Didn't know that, however he is still on the list(isn't he?).

[silverspawn]

Yeah.

[faust]

Arya straight up said that she has taken the hound off her list.

I think she's almost through. Is anyone except the mountain and Cersei still on there?

I'm rereading the books, and I think Beric Dondarrion is on the list there, but the show never quite went there.

Though killing him for good would truly be a crowning achievement.

[Calamitas]

Arya straight up said that she has taken the hound off her list.

I think she's almost through. Is anyone except the mountain and Cersei still on there?

I'm rereading the books, and I think Beric Dondarrion is on the list there, but the show never quite went there.

Though killing him for good would truly be a crowning achievement.

The BwB plot was trimmed so much in the show (still don't understand why Lady Stoneheart was cut) that I wouldn't expect anything in that direction.

[Witherweaver]

Arya straight up said that she has taken the hound off her list.

I think she's almost through. Is anyone except the mountain and Cersei still on there?

I'm rereading the books, and I think Beric Dondarrion is on the list there, but the show never quite went there.

Though killing him for good would truly be a crowning achievement.

The BwB plot was trimmed so much in the show (still don't understand why Lady Stoneheart was cut) that I wouldn't expect anything in that direction.

THERE'S STILL TIME TO BRING HER BACK

[Calamitas]

Arya straight up said that she has taken the hound off her list.

I think she's almost through. Is anyone except the mountain and Cersei still on there?

I'm rereading the books, and I think Beric Dondarrion is on the list there, but the show never quite went there.

Though killing him for good would truly be a crowning achievement.

The BwB plot was trimmed so much in the show (still don't understand why Lady Stoneheart was cut) that I wouldn't expect anything in that direction.

THERE'S STILL TIME TO BRING HER BACK

It's rather unlikely, especially after considering that GRRM confirmed her absence at Balticon.

[eHalcyon]

It's rather unlikely, especially after considering that GRRM confirmed her absence at Balticon.

Was that confirming for the show entirely, or  could it be for just the most recent season?

[Calamitas]

It's rather unlikely, especially after considering that GRRM confirmed her absence at Balticon.

Was that confirming for the show entirely, or  could it be for just the most recent season?

Well, he said that she won't appear...If he speaks the truth is another question.

[ignorentmen]

I have to think that it was Arya who killed Lord Frey is reason enough to show that Lady Stoneheart won't be showing up. Because I have to think in the books that it will be the Band of Brothers that gets that job done in a revenge version of the Red Wedding. It there was a time in the story to introduce Lady Stoneheart that was the moment and since it didn't happen then, I highly doubt it will ever happen.

Plus author confirmation helps to make it even more unlikely.

[Calamitas]

I have to think that it was Arya who killed Lord Frey is reason enough to show that Lady Stoneheart won't be showing up. Because I have to think in the books that it will be the Band of Brothers that gets that job done in a revenge version of the Red Wedding. It there was a time in the story to introduce Lady Stoneheart that was the moment and since it didn't happen then, I highly doubt it will ever happen.

Plus author confirmation helps to make it even more unlikely.

So sad, but probably true... :-(

[Witherweaver]

You can't take the sky from me!

[Calamitas]

You can't take the sky from me!

"Sky" would mean for me Aegon, Quentyn, Dorne(!!!!!!!!!), Alayne, Jon Connington, Victarion, LS and senseful plotlines...

[silverspawn]

the actor is pretty funny. and, well, he's a really great actor. the way joffrey just radiates arrogance in every second on screen is pretty amazing.

[LaLight]

I found some WTF in Internet. To those of you who love Codenames. Spoilers of GoT ahead