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[Cuzz]

Also do you really think ash would have put his scumbuddy at the bottom of his suspicion list?

Yes, I absolutely do. I also think scum Arch would adamantly say "I don't like the Ash lynch, we should lynch Frisk, Galz, or Eevee instead".

I also note that he was a very high suspect of both Robz AND CF, for very different reasons.

I'll be putting a full case together with quotes later on the plethora of things that have stood out in his posts.

And speaking of posts, there's been a whopping total of 39. Next lowest is Yuma, at 57, then Joth/Shraeye/Cuzz at nearly double Arch's, in their 70's.

at least half of jos have to be simply chickenvoting for the person he's already voting for

Well, the poor guy has been a chicken for like half the game. Which makes Archetype's post count in comparison all the more damning.

Archetype: you still have yet to explain your opposition to the ashersky lynch. Opposing a scum lynch isn't necessarily scummy in and of itself since only scum knows scum for sure, but to do so without reason or explanation is suspicious.

While I'm on Archetype, I find this post really odd (emphasis added):

Hm, looks like Asher put me as his lowest scum read. This doesn't make me look good.

Pearl Diver, don't tell who you are. Eevee, if you are indeed the Pearl Diver, what results have you gathered.

I could see Grujah being scum. IIRC, Asher didnt get on the Grujah wagon, and he doesn't seem like the kind of person to throw his buddy under the bus.

Vote: Grujah

Quick Town reads: Cuzz, Yuma, Shraeye, Eevee (if no one counterclaims)
Scum reads: Grujah and Captain_Frisk
A bit neutral on everyone else

The bolded parts seems to demonstrate a lack of knowledge of the game-state and make no sense at all. a. Pearl diver is not an investigative role, b. Eevee already claimed pearl diver, c. You ask the pearl diver to not reveal himself, while asking Eevee to give information if he is pearl diver. These requests are incompatible. And finally d. Arch continues his D2 tunneling of dead confirmed-townie Frisk, later claiming this was a mistake.

This post on its own could be evidence of scum or bad town play, but Archetype's lurky behavior in general (and the ash defense) has been seeming quite scummy to me anyway.

Vote: Archetype

[Galzria]

Chicken Vote: Insomniac
Chicken
Unvote

Chicken Vote: Archetype

[Insomniac]

Can't be random Curser
Insomniac
Galzria
jotheonah (You have to believe he was cursed over Volt AND over Grujah)

[Cuzz]

Can't be random Curser
Insomniac
Galzria
jotheonah (You have to believe he was cursed over Volt AND over Grujah)

What are we supposed to do with this information? (Not being snarky, really just curious as to how it might be useful.) I guess if we knew random curser, they'd be conftown? But he doesn't even know himself that he's the random curser...

[Insomniac]

@Cuzz its useful because if we did manage to find out who they were on our own they would be conftown. However the flip is that if we do cause a mislynch it's best if it is the random curser because then we have mafia cursing to analyze as well.

[shraeye]

Also do you really think ash would have put his scumbuddy at the bottom of his suspicion list?

Yes, I absolutely do. I also think scum Arch would adamantly say "I don't like the Ash lynch, we should lynch Frisk, Galz, or Eevee instead".

I also note that he was a very high suspect of both Robz AND CF, for very different reasons.

I'll be putting a full case together with quotes later on the plethora of things that have stood out in his posts.

And speaking of posts, there's been a whopping total of 39. Next lowest is Yuma, at 57, then Joth/Shraeye/Cuzz at nearly double Arch's, in their 70's.

at least half of jos have to be simply chickenvoting for the person he's already voting for

Well, the poor guy has been a chicken for like half the game. Which makes Archetype's post count in comparison all the more damning.

Archetype: you still have yet to explain your opposition to the ashersky lynch. Opposing a scum lynch isn't necessarily scummy in and of itself since only scum knows scum for sure, but to do so without reason or explanation is suspicious.

While I'm on Archetype, I find this post really odd (emphasis added):

Hm, looks like Asher put me as his lowest scum read. This doesn't make me look good.

Pearl Diver, don't tell who you are. Eevee, if you are indeed the Pearl Diver, what results have you gathered.

I could see Grujah being scum. IIRC, Asher didnt get on the Grujah wagon, and he doesn't seem like the kind of person to throw his buddy under the bus.

Vote: Grujah

Quick Town reads: Cuzz, Yuma, Shraeye, Eevee (if no one counterclaims)
Scum reads: Grujah and Captain_Frisk
A bit neutral on everyone else

The bolded parts seems to demonstrate a lack of knowledge of the game-state and make no sense at all. a. Pearl diver is not an investigative role, b. Eevee already claimed pearl diver, c. You ask the pearl diver to not reveal himself, while asking Eevee to give information if he is pearl diver. These requests are incompatible. And finally d. Arch continues his D2 tunneling of dead confirmed-townie Frisk, later claiming this was a mistake.

This post on its own could be evidence of scum or bad town play, but Archetype's lurky behavior in general (and the ash defense) has been seeming quite scummy to me anyway.

Vote: Archetype

Yes, Archetype putting CF on his scummy list was ridiculous.  It seems like he was so focused on trying to keep his "reads" consistent, that he didn't notice who died, or let the lynch even change his opinion of other things.  I'm highly suspicious of this, and combined with his weird business regarding talking to the PRs, I agree with
Vote: ARchetype

Do we know that the random curser can't hit themselves?

[Grujah]

Chicken

[Insomniac]

@Shraeye: Yes we do

@Grujah: your not a chicken

Vote: Shraeye his sheeping is just ridiculous.

[Grujah]

Yeah, just cleared that out with Jorbles, I was confused about it.

I agree that Arch's "Frisk" comment seems like a scum slip. Also, shraeye might be wagoning scum there, for that I do agree, Ins. Next in line is Ins.


yuma had a grand total of 2 votes on him, one being me mistaking Galz for him while I was drunk.

What's the vote tally?

[Grujah]

And what are these votes on me for?

[Jorbles]

Vote Count 3.3:

Insomniac (1): Grujah
Grujah (1): Archetype
Archetype (3): Cuzz, Galzria, shraeye
shraeye (1): Insomniac

Not Voting (3): Eevee, jotheonah, yuma

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Currently Cursed: Galzria

Curse deadline: Sunday Nov 4, Noon PDT (3 pm forum time)
Lynch deadline: Tuesday Nov 6, Noon PDT (3 pm forum time)

[Grujah]

shra is listed twice.

[Grujah]

So looking at votes surrounding ashersky...

 - Insomniac puts ashersky 4th on his chicken list early
 - Eevee votes ashersky first (Eevee)
 - yuma votes ashersky after analysis (eevee, yuma)
 - shraeye joins making it 3 votes (eevee, yuma, shraeye)
 - Grujah joins putting it at L-2 (eevee, yuma, shraeye, grujah)
 - Grujah changes vote to shraeye, so ash is back at L-3 (eevee, yuma, shraeye)
 - jot votes ashersky, so he is back at L-2 (eevee, yuma, shraeye, jot)
 - ash still hasn't voted all day... but finally votes Galz once he becomes a chicken, with Frisk, shraeye and cuzz as his top four chicken suspects
 - Cuzz votes ashersky... somewhere along the line, eevee unvotes, but I missed it (yuma, shraeye, jot, cuzz)
 - Grujah votes putting him at L-1 (yuma, shraeye, jot, cuzz, grujah)
 - Galz appears to be willing to vote, but notices Grujah's vote. so doesn't
 - shraeye changes his vote to eevee so now it is L-2 (yuma, jot, cuzz, grujah)
 - jot and grujah continue to push ash lynch
 - cuzz changes his vote to eevee (yuma, jot, grujah)
 - jot changes his vote to eevee (yuma, grujah)
 - shraeye is back on ash (yuma, grujah, shraeye)
 - shraeye unvotes
 - yuma changes vote to archetype (grujah....
 - Frisk counterclaims and votes ashersky (grujah, frisk)
 - eevee rejoins the lynch (grujah, frisk, eevee)
 - jot votes ash (grujah, frisk ,eevee, jot)
 - shraye votes for ash (grujah, frisk, eevee, jot, shraeye)
 - jot changes vote to insomniac (grujah, frisk, eevee, shraeye)
 - insomniac votes ash (grujah, frisk, eevee, shraeye, insomniac)
 - jot votes ash (grujah, frisk, eevee, shraeye, insomniac, jot)

Wife and I about to start a movie... so analysis will come later on this wonderful information.

Hi there, mafia eHalc from MVI.


You make all these analyses and still cast no votes?

[Jorbles]

shra is listed twice.

Fixed.

[Galzria]

Chicken Vote: Grujah

Chicken chicken

Unvote

Chicken Vote: Archetype

[Grujah]

No what?

I am wrong on
1 chicken: Arch
2: shra
3: Ins
4:yuma
5: something else?

[Grujah]

One thing that kept me from arch vote for a short time is that we knew that Volt, as town, was chickened. And I know I, as town, was chickened. We also knew that ash was chickened - which gave me a pause (i tried to get this msg throgh, with no success). But he was somewhat of a scumread D1 and eevee I've put as town early so I wasn't that much off. 

[Galzria]

Chicken chicken chicken chicken

Chicken Vote: Insomniac
Chicken chicken chicken
Unvote

Chicken Vote: Archetype

[Cuzz]

One thing that kept me from arch vote for a short time is that we knew that Volt, as town, was chickened. And I know I, as town, was chickened. We also knew that ash was chickened - which gave me a pause (i tried to get this msg throgh, with no success). But he was somewhat of a scumread D1 and eevee I've put as town early so I wasn't that much off. 

What do your views on Archetype have to do with who was chickened?

[Grujah]

ash* vote. Sigh. I've just done the same thing as Arch, I guess.

[jotheonah]

I can talk again! Why did we all stop voting Insomniac?

[shraeye]

I can talk again! Why did we all stop voting Insomniac?

I stopped because I was compelled by Archetype's multiple strange statements involving/regarding the PRs that have shown up so far.  That felt more scummy to me.

[Insomniac]

I can talk again! Why did we all stop voting Insomniac?

I stopped because I'm scum

FTFY

[Archetype]

Hm, looks like Asher put me as his lowest scum read. This doesn't make me look good.

Pearl Diver, don't tell who you are. Eevee, if you are indeed the Pearl Diver, what results have you gathered.

I could see Grujah being scum. IIRC, Asher didnt get on the Grujah wagon, and he doesn't seem like the kind of person to throw his buddy under the bus.

Vote: Grujah

Quick Town reads: Cuzz, Yuma, Shraeye, Eevee (if no one counterclaims)
Scum reads: Grujah and Captain_Frisk
A bit neutral on everyone else

The bolded parts seems to demonstrate a lack of knowledge of the game-state and make no sense at all. a. Pearl diver is not an investigative role, b. Eevee already claimed pearl diver, c. You ask the pearl diver to not reveal himself, while asking Eevee to give information if he is pearl diver. These requests are incompatible. And finally d. Arch continues his D2 tunneling of dead confirmed-townie Frisk, later claiming this was a mistake.

This post on its own could be evidence of scum or bad town play, but Archetype's lurky behavior in general (and the ash defense) has been seeming quite scummy to me anyway.

Vote: Archetype
[/quote]
yes, the PD and C_F issue were both me just being ignorant.

I don't have a firm reason why not to vote Asher, I just found the case on him weak.

Still think that Grujah is scum. Hopefully you all will peruse this If I get lynched.
Town read on Shraeye and Eevee, town read on Cuzz starting to diminish.

[Archetype]

Quoting fail, the part before the "[/quote]" was by Cuzz.