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King's Court nerf/fix
« on: October 06, 2012, 03:17:13 am »
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King's Court
Cost: 7
You may choose an Action card from your hand other than a King's Court. Play it three times.

You may even be able to knock the cost down.

It's still an amazing card, but it's not as ridiculous any more.
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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2012, 03:27:54 am »
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You want me to have NoMoreFun with my King's Courts, don't you?  :'(

Seriously though, I know that a lot of people have a problem with KC for being OP and impossible to pass up too often, and while that may be true, I think KC is kind of a hallmark Dominion card. Possession could be a good comparison. A lot of people might hate it, but it's a classic Dominion effect. On the subject, though, I love KC chains because I simply find them fun and really satisfying to pull off correctly. Having KC not work on itself seems like a case where too much effort towards balancing the card perfectly can actually get in the way of what makes it so fun.
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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2012, 04:02:07 am »
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I would like a "repeater" better than looked at cost than one that mentions a specific card. Like:

Prince's Court
Cost: 6
You may choose an Action card from your hand costing less than $6 and play it three times.

(It could be used successfully with itself if there are price-changing cards around.)
Or even a differential effect like

Prince's Court
Cost: 6
You may choose an Action card from your hand and play it.
If that card costs less than $6, play it again.
If that card costs less than $5, play it once more.
If that card costs less than $4, play it once more.
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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2012, 04:08:13 am »
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I would like a "repeater" better than looked at cost than one that mentions a specific card. Like:

Prince's Court
Cost: 6
You may choose an Action card from your hand costing less than $6 and play it three times.

(It could be used successfully with itself if there are price-changing cards around.)
Or even a differential effect like

Prince's Court
Cost: 6
You may choose an Action card from your hand and play it.
If that card costs less than $6, play it again.
If that card costs less than $5, play it once more.
If that card costs less than $4, play it once more.

Would this play cards that cost less than $4 four times? Because that seems quite strong considering the number of terminal silvers at $3. Prince's Court + Woodcutter = guaranteed province seems quite strong.
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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 04:12:14 am »
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Would this play cards that cost less than $4 four times? Because that seems quite strong considering the number of terminal silvers at $3. Prince's Court + Woodcutter = guaranteed province seems quite strong.

Maybe it is. Maybe the differential version is better with "less than $3" for the final clause, or doesn't work at all. Nothing is tested at all of course. I just think that if you want t "KC" that doesn't make big megaturns so often it's more interesting to limit it by cost than by name.
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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 04:15:20 am »
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I just think that if you want t "KC" that doesn't make big megaturns so often it's more interesting to limit it by cost than by name.

I agree! Yeah, taking off the "Less than $4" line might make Prince's Court more balanced. I still don't like it as much as KC though. :P
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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2012, 04:24:42 am »
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Opening hand: Highway-Highway-PC-PC-Bridge

Highway into Bridge
Highway into Bridge
PC-PC-Bridge-Bridge-Bridge ;)

get 9 colonies in 1 turn XD
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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2012, 02:32:07 pm »
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I like the nerf, because it makes the card less variant.  Worth the drawbacks of changing it to me.  Still a great 7$ card.

Aesthetically the form where you say "costing less than 6$" is better.  I'm really not excited about KC alchemy anyway.

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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 06:57:05 pm »
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Opening hand: Highway-Highway-PC-PC-Bridge

Highway into Bridge
Highway into Bridge
PC-PC-Bridge-Bridge-Bridge ;)

get 9 colonies in 1 turn XD
For that matter, what's to stop you from playing PC-PC-B-B-B and arguing that as each Bridge resolves it reduces the cost of the cards in the combo to the point where they all get played a full three/four times? Based on how other cards react to having something happen half-way through their resolution, I think that would be how it works.
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Re: King's Court nerf/fix
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 09:22:43 pm »
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You may choose an Action card from your hand costing less than $6 and play it three times.

Donald found a fix for cost variation with the border village.

You may choose an action card from hand costing less than this card. Play it three times.
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