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It's me, Eevee!
« on: October 03, 2012, 11:43:04 pm »
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I've been meaning to do this for a long time, and since I'm busy procrastinating at the moment, it's finally time. It seems I registered here in the beginning of this year, I think I was reading the articles for a couple of months before that. I recall registering to participate in a tournament, in which I took a hilarious beating losing every single match. It was really fun though, and got me posting on the other areas of the forum as well (well, I haven't really posted that much if you exclude the forum games section). I used to be really excited about dominion, but don't play nearly as much these days (combination of goko and forum mafia and maybe me starting to suck at the game for some reason). Nowadays my dominion playing is super casual, I tend to explore fun and interesting strategies rather than maximize my win chances. Back when I "played well" (peaked at level 44), I was a big money / alt vp - type of a player, probably because I learnt everything I knew from WW's videos, so it's not exactly a wonder this "building fun engines" style doesn't result in that many wins. I don't own any of the games physically and have never tried Goko, so I've never played any dark ages, would sure be interested though. Would anyone happen to know if getting a copy of the dark ages to Finland would be possible already? I'm sure none of the stores have it yet as it hasn't been translated. I'd even have a friend who is better than me at the game, (doesn't post here), so could definitely be tons of fun.

Oh yeah, backwards intro post is backwards, I'm 21 years old, surprisingly male and from Finland. I live in Helsinki (the capital) with my girlfriend and play poker for a living (heads up, 5-10 to 10-20 for the poker players around). Surely love my job! For hobbies, I started a floorball team with some friends this spring, and also do some racket sports (mainly table tennis and padel, also some tennis but I suck at it / think it's too hard to be fun). Because of the poker thing, my sleep schedule is often super wacky (typing this at 6:33am, haven't slept yet). I probably drink a little too often, but it is so so very fun. One of the more time consuming hobbies lately has also been forum mafia, which is also a big reason I still spend a lot of time on this site, despite semi-losing interest in dominion. This community is awesome though, so this is definitely not one of those farewell posts. It also got long, but ohwell, I'm sure it'll still earn me an upvote or two.

Oh and if you've never tried forum mafia, I highly recommend it. It's pretty awesome!
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Re: It's me, Eevee!
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 11:45:33 pm »
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...you're a professional poker player. How has this not come out in forum mafia?

Also, lol at "surprisingly male"
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 11:54:11 pm »
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...you're a professional poker player. How has this not come out in forum mafia?

Also, lol at "surprisingly male"
It actually did, in mafia III (my first game). It was really hard to convince everyone I could still be a cute idiot incapable of lying.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 12:02:31 am »
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You make a living on deceiving others and picking up reads/tells (if you play IRL)???
Never wanna play mafia with you again.
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You were a lvl 44?

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2012, 04:07:50 am »
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"heads up, 5-10 to 10-20 "

Wish I was this good. Never got past 1-2 myself!
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2012, 08:39:56 am »
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"heads up, 5-10 to 10-20 "

Wish I was this good. Never got past 1-2 myself!
Yeah, the change in skill level from players routinely playing 5-10 to players who routinely play 10-20 is substantial. I played in a 30-60 game exactly once and felt largely overmatched, so 20-40 was my self-imposed ceiling.  Mostly I played 10-20.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 09:31:04 am »
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diggity dang, eevee! That's a pretty cool story!
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2012, 09:33:38 am »
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Oh I guess I should have clarified, it's purely online. Live poker can be fun in small doses, but it's purely a hobby / for fun, it's way too slow and miserable to be done "seriously"/professionally (even though for the most part people are pretty clueless in live environments). Just my opinion obviously.

Thanks shraeye  :)
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 09:50:51 am »
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Oh I guess I should have clarified, it's purely online. Live poker can be fun in small doses, but it's purely a hobby / for fun, it's way too slow and miserable to be done "seriously"/professionally (even though for the most part people are pretty clueless in live environments). Just my opinion obviously.

Thanks shraeye  :)
And here I had visions of you in the Grand Casino.
Did you see much of an effect in the online games after Black Friday in the US?
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 10:03:41 am »
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Yeah, I think its easier to win money off people in Live settings, enough that I could go up a level (never tried anything too high though) but its just a lot slower than online, and online is more about the maths
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2012, 11:53:15 am »
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Oh I guess I should have clarified, it's purely online. Live poker can be fun in small doses, but it's purely a hobby / for fun, it's way too slow and miserable to be done "seriously"/professionally (even though for the most part people are pretty clueless in live environments). Just my opinion obviously.

Thanks shraeye  :)
And here I had visions of you in the Grand Casino.
Did you see much of an effect in the online games after Black Friday in the US?
Wow, wouldn't have expected anyone to know our (only) casino, nice one. It's called Casino Helsinki nowadays, I go there maybe once the month or so, mostly to drink and have fun with friends. The games, especially the holdem games (I don't play any plo) they spread are pretty small, so that + the slowness Ozle mentions makes "grinding" in there an impossibility (for me anyways). The actual moneymaking is done home in pajamas, simultaneously refreshing forum games section here.  :)

Black Friday had some effect, obviously can't play on FTP anymore and generally lost access to the american player pool. I also have some money locked up in there (low 5 figures), but luckily that's likely now getting resolved with the stars deal.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2012, 08:25:07 pm »
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Nice introduction Eevee, was surprised about most of the things I read. But Poker for a living? That would be cool :)

You should have titled this: "A Wild Eevee Appears" :P
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2012, 08:35:20 pm »
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Nice introduction Eevee, was surprised about most of the things I read. But Poker for a living? That would be cool :)

You should have titled this: "A Wile Eevee Appears" :P
DAMNIT! I should have. Going to make that my profile text thingy right now!
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2012, 09:15:06 pm »
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You own the thread, you can fix it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2012, 09:24:45 pm »
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You own the thread, you can fix it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2012, 03:44:37 am »
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I miss online poker so  :'(

I like to dream that online poker's reintroduction to the states will be synced with the launch of Goku.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2012, 09:53:19 am »
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I miss online poker so  :'(

I like to dream that online poker's reintroduction to the states will be synced with the launch of Goku.
I'm pretty sure it'll happen within the next 1-2 years. And man I hope europeans will have an access to your pools then.

Actually wanted to clarify something to Nick too. That's a common impression, but it would be much more accurate to say "he is getting as good as possible in a game and then playing it for money". I remember at one point contemplating contacting some of the top dominion players and asking them for coaching, that's how similar the two are.
It's like, I haven't practised bluffing in front of a mirror and I never will, but I've studied game theory to better understand how the game works. It's more like that.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2012, 09:59:22 am »
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Thats what I love about modern poker, and how you can tell a proper player from someone who just talks a big game.

'Tells' are things mainly used in movies, occasionally you will get someone who talks nervously when they have a good hand, but not at any decent level.

Its about probability and working out other peoples betting patterns rather than if their eye bleeds!

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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2012, 10:05:32 am »
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So eevee, does this mean that I could play poker professionally if I didn't live in the states?
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2012, 10:06:27 am »
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So eevee, does this mean that I could play poker professionally if I didn't live in the states?

You can play poker professionally even if you do live in the states can't you?
But its easier elsewhere!
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2012, 10:07:39 am »
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I was referring to my (presumed) high skill level @ dominion.  If the skills transfer....

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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2012, 10:08:49 am »
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I was referring to my (presumed) high skill level @ dominion.  If the skills transfer....

You would have to be good at Dominion first........
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2012, 01:51:16 pm »
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I was referring to my (presumed) high skill level @ dominion.  If the skills transfer....
There is obviously also the emotion/money management part too, which is pretty huge. How one could theoretically play is a completely different thing than how one's actual level of play is when he is losing, upset with real life or what have you.

What I meant is, I'm sure most of us love games and trying to solve them. Easiest way of explaining poker is thinking of it as a video game. It often almost feels like you are trying to "gather points", rather than win money. You have to distance yourself from the money somehow or you'd go nuts (basically ridiculous spending habits and such because "well this could be won or lost in a single pot/day of poker anyways and terrible tilting issues thinking what the money you sometimes lose could have bought you. Greed actually is detrimental to a poker player, I think. Right mix of egoism and humbleness good.). So, I got lucky I got obsessed with a game that is played for money, and also in that I have the psyche to handle losing and emotional issues and such. Happened to have the right talents, and now I'm in the very fortunate position of day to day thinking "wow, it's really cool I'm so good at this and can do it for money". It's hard to explain, but I feel really proud for being this good in poker. I was always sort of an underachiever in school (lazy with homework and such), it's a very nice feeling to put a lot of effort into something and then have it pay off. Poker is also cool because despite the variance, you in the end always get what you deserve. If I do things better than the other guy, it's going to show in the long run. Very motivating.

So yeah, you're certainly easily talented in enough in gaming to be smart enough to learn about the game, no doubt. You'd still need emotional control, patience, helluvalot time and effort, probably the right social circles (so much faster to learn with others than alone) and such. Time / obsession is the biggest thing, I don't think I'd suggest starting to learn poker anymore for anyone, just because the games are getting tougher and tougher and moving up from the scratch would probably not be worth the effort anymore.
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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2012, 01:52:25 pm »
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It's probably because of poker I have so much respect for the guys who constantly beat me in dominion (like Frisk for example). It's pretty cool how good they are. I wish iso never goes away..
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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2012, 01:52:50 pm »
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-1 for crushing my dreams of easy money.
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