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optionalthief

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Making Thief Trashing Optional
« on: August 24, 2012, 05:06:24 pm »
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Hello everyone,

I am a relatively new dominion player but have been considering this ever since it first dawned on me that Thief was not as good as it originally seemed. So, Dominion Strategy Forum, I put this thought experiment before you: how would you react if Thief's trashing was optional, allowing you to not trash your opponent's coppers? Would this make it OP? Fix all its problems? Something in between?

This was touched on briefly <a href=http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1651.msg26582#msg26582>here</a>, but didn't garner any replies, and I'm curious what other people think.
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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 05:35:24 pm »
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You named your username after the subject of your first post? That's commitment to a concept.

I don't think it would really save the card. In a game where trashing opponents' Coppers is a big deal, it's because they can build an engine. If they can build an engine, Thief probably isn't a good idea regardless.

If I were to try to fix Thief, I'd first try giving a flat +$1 when played.
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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 09:47:13 pm »
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I still like my "If you gained no cards this way, gain a silver" addition.
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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2012, 04:54:18 pm »
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Doing absolutely nothing with a terminal hurts pretty bad.  It wouldn't save the card.  It would help though, especially in multiplayer
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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2012, 06:07:02 pm »
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I don't think it would make much of a difference. In most cases where you would want to Thief, if given the choice, you should probably choose to trash the Copper.
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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 08:24:09 pm »
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I don't think that's quite fair.  We buy Thief with the forced Copper trash in mind, if it was buffed, we'd be more likely to buy it in thindeck BM Colony games, where there may be a couple untrashed Coppers that you want to leave in.
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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 09:44:09 am »
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You named your username after the subject of your first post? That's commitment to a concept.

Ha ha... I'm not that devoted to the idea, I just couldn't think of a better name.

Anyway, it seems like my idea may not in fact be that great - that's okay, though, I didn't have any money riding on this or anything - so thanks for your feedback!
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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 10:19:14 am »
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<sarcasm> Just play with Noble Brigand instead of Thief, problem solved. ;) </sarcasm>

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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 08:16:30 pm »
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<sarcasm> Just play with Noble Brigand instead of Thief, problem solved. ;) </sarcasm>

I actually came here to say this without sarcasm.
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Re: Making Thief Trashing Optional
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2012, 12:07:54 am »
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This might interest you... A similar thread where I propose a different "fix" for Thief: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2759.0
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