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Fantasy (American) football?
« on: August 21, 2012, 05:55:49 am »
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I wonder how many people play fantasy football who are on this forum? I would like to make a league for Dominion players/Isotropic addicts, but I'm gauging interest before going through with it. If you're interested, please reply!
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Re: Fantasy football?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 06:00:26 am »
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Are we talking proper football?
Or American Football/NFL/Gridiron?
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Re: Fantasy football?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 06:09:56 am »
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Does fantasy soccer even exist?  I assumed he was talking about American football.
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Re: Fantasy football?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 06:10:32 am »
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Does fantasy soccer even exist?  I assumed he was talking about American football.

Why wouldn't it?
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Re: Fantasy football?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 06:28:19 am »
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I would be interested in either.
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Re: Fantasy football?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 07:07:54 am »
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That would be American football. I do like soccer, but not as much as football. (Fantasy soccer does exist, but I don't think you can join proper leagues where you draft players.)
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 08:11:56 am »
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That would be American football. I do like soccer, but not as much as football. (Fantasy soccer does exist, but I don't think you can join proper leagues where you draft players.)

Ok I'll pass then, my knowledge of American football is probably too limited!

(there are thousands of fantasy leagues for all major sports, both free and charging. Not quite sure why people are seeming thinking it's limited to just specific sports!)
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Re: Fantasy (American) football?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 08:34:45 am »
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That would be American football. I do like soccer, but not as much as football. (Fantasy soccer does exist, but I don't think you can join proper leagues where you draft players.)

Ok I'll pass then, my knowledge of American football is probably too limited!

(there are thousands of fantasy leagues for all major sports, both free and charging. Not quite sure why people are seeming thinking it's limited to just specific sports!)

Well, fantasy football holds a very unique place in American culture, something I don't think fantasy soccer possibly replicates in the UK or any other country.

I'd be down for it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2012, 08:51:16 am »
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If I were in the US and could watch all the games I'd participate...as is I probably won't see any games before the end of October.  I can buy NFL game package here but don't have the money right now.
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Re: Fantasy (American) football?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2012, 09:33:33 am »
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2012, 09:40:30 am »
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If I were in the US and could watch all the games I'd participate...as is I probably won't see any games before the end of October.  I can buy NFL game package here but don't have the money right now.

You don't need to watch football to play fantasy.
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Re: Fantasy football?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2012, 09:40:52 am »
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Are we talking proper football?
Or American Football/NFL/Gridiron?

Yes and yes?
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2012, 09:54:51 am »
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That would be American football. I do like soccer, but not as much as football. (Fantasy soccer does exist, but I don't think you can join proper leagues where you draft players.)

Ok I'll pass then, my knowledge of American football is probably too limited!

(there are thousands of fantasy leagues for all major sports, both free and charging. Not quite sure why people are seeming thinking it's limited to just specific sports!)

Well, fantasy football holds a very unique place in American culture, something I don't think fantasy soccer possibly replicates in the UK or any other country.

I'd be down for it.


I think you would be surprised, there are at least 3 going on internally in my office at the moment (of varying degrees of complexity). As well as 2 Formula 1 games. Not to mention every main newspaper runs one with big cash prizes.

Obviously the population isn't the same here, but i'm willing to bet the percentages that plays is probably similar.

If I don't need to know much about NFL (I only watch 3 or 4 games a season) and it doest require a herculean amount of time and effort then ill give it a go!



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Re: Fantasy (American) football?
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2012, 10:04:47 am »
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That would be American football. I do like soccer, but not as much as football. (Fantasy soccer does exist, but I don't think you can join proper leagues where you draft players.)

Ok I'll pass then, my knowledge of American football is probably too limited!

(there are thousands of fantasy leagues for all major sports, both free and charging. Not quite sure why people are seeming thinking it's limited to just specific sports!)

Well, fantasy football holds a very unique place in American culture, something I don't think fantasy soccer possibly replicates in the UK or any other country.

I'd be down for it.


I think you would be surprised, there are at least 3 going on internally in my office at the moment (of varying degrees of complexity). As well as 2 Formula 1 games. Not to mention every main newspaper runs one with big cash prizes.

Obviously the population isn't the same here, but i'm willing to bet the percentages that plays is probably similar.

If I don't need to know much about NFL (I only watch 3 or 4 games a season) and it doest require a herculean amount of time and effort then ill give it a go!

The beauty of fantasy (american) football - is that most weeks - all of the action happens between sunday and monday.  You don't have to worry about juggling your roster like you do in baseball.  You can basically log in on friday night - check the news to make sure your players aren't injured - and pick who you think is best.  Most systems will give you "projected" points per player for the week - so you can make a reasonably informed decision of who to start - and during the draft - they will list the average draft position of every player - and while taking the top guy off the list every time isn't optimal - its not like you're just picking completely blind.    I would say that the total time investment is about 15-30 minutes / week + 1-2 hours for the initial draft.  You can spend more - combing over waiver wires and trash talking - but for a bare minimum investment - its not that bad. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2012, 10:15:37 am »
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Ok, that doesn't sound too bad, that's pretty much exactly like the system over here, except instead of a draft you have X amount of money to spend on players.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2012, 10:18:11 am »
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Oh - I'd love to do an auction based system - but that is typically reserved for Level 2 fans.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2012, 10:42:52 am »
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well the Euro football fantasy stuff gravitates towards the player-purchase model because they are much more used to seeing their players as commodities to be bought and sold.  You know, capitalism.  Here in our glorious North American Socialist Sports Paradise, we draft players from a common talent pool into the NFL, so fantasy players draft too.  Auctions are a lot more time consuming to be fair. 

if you get up towards 12 takers, I might be in -- but have a lot of travel also in the weeks between now and kickoff so i might not be able to make an online draft either. 
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2012, 10:53:23 am »
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That would be American football. I do like soccer, but not as much as football. (Fantasy soccer does exist, but I don't think you can join proper leagues where you draft players.)

Ok I'll pass then, my knowledge of American football is probably too limited!

(there are thousands of fantasy leagues for all major sports, both free and charging. Not quite sure why people are seeming thinking it's limited to just specific sports!)

Well, fantasy football holds a very unique place in American culture, something I don't think fantasy soccer possibly replicates in the UK or any other country.

I'd be down for it.

Dunno how it is in USA, but fantasy football (soccer, whatever) is quite a thing here.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2012, 10:58:04 am »
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well the Euro football fantasy stuff gravitates towards the player-purchase model because they are much more used to seeing their players as commodities to be bought and sold.  You know, capitalism.  Here in our glorious North American Socialist Sports Paradise, we draft players from a common talent pool into the NFL, so fantasy players draft too.  Auctions are a lot more time consuming to be fair. 


The big clubs in Europe would LOVE to have a closed shop franchise system, (Thus also introducing wage caps and budgets) but that door has long been closed to them unfortunately as its a world game governed by FIFA rather than individual associations. And to do it they would have to breakaway from the whole of the rest of the football world (so no world cups for the players, etc..)
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2012, 11:36:38 am »
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I'd be interested
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2012, 12:38:35 pm »
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For more serious managers, auctions are much better than snake drafts, imo, because players tend to go to the managers who value them most. If you're a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, you can go ahead and spend half your budget to get him and can't be screwed out of it based on random draft position.

But for less intense players, snake drafts are better since you don't have to be "on" the whole draft. You know when your turn is coming up, and you have a list of players you can pick from when it gets down to you.

I'd be down to play either.
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Re: Fantasy (American) football?
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2012, 01:22:38 pm »
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I love auction drafts (I just got done with one!), and it seems more fitting for us Dominion players to use an auction system somehow, but there are two problems with it:

1) It takes much longer than a regular draft (mine lasted an hour and 45 minutes)
2) Making the draft is very important, as autopickers tend to make the draft less fun.

With a regular draft league, I wouldn't have to make sure as many people as possible could make the draft (but I still expect 100% participation, with absences understandable in certain situations).

I have created the league, it's on Yahoo.
ID: 644614
password: Tunnel (capitalization needed)
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 06:30:25 pm »
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I love auction drafts (I just got done with one!), and it seems more fitting for us Dominion players to use an auction system somehow, but there are two problems with it:

1) It takes much longer than a regular draft (mine lasted an hour and 45 minutes)
2) Making the draft is very important, as autopickers tend to make the draft less fun.

With a regular draft league, I wouldn't have to make sure as many people as possible could make the draft (but I still expect 100% participation, with absences understandable in certain situations).

I have created the league, it's on Yahoo.
ID: 644614
password: Tunnel (capitalization needed)

When is the draft?
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2012, 06:34:45 pm »
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7 pm Central on Monday, September 3, although the date can be changed if enough people don't like this date.
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2012, 06:42:20 pm »
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I just joined and looked over the league settings. I think we out to just play standard settings, especially if there are people who have never played before. Making passing TDs worth more points will cause people who are just reading about general fantasy strategy to be confused and undervalue QBs relative to RBs. And 3 points for blocked kicks is just random.

I'm also interested in hearing opinions about FAAB.
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