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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2012, 05:03:48 pm »
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Dame Anna (trash up to 2 from hand) = Dame Trash
Dame Josephine (worth 2 VP) = Dame VP
Dame Molly (+2 Actions) = Dame Village
Dame Natalie (gain a card up to $3) = Dame Workshop
Dame Sylvia (+$2) = Dame Silver
Sir Bailey (+1 Card, +1 Action) = Sir Cantrip
Sir Destry (+2 Cards) = Sir Cards (Sir Moat?)
Sir Martin (+2 Buys) = Sir Buy
Sir Michael = Sir Militia
Sir Vander (on trash, gain Gold) = Sir Gold?
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2012, 05:06:19 pm »
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You still need to remember wee-wee or no wee-wee

Easy

Trasher Knight
VP Knight
Action Knight Village Knight
Workshop Knight
Silver Knight
Cantrip Knight
Drawer Knight
Cheap Knight
Militia Knight
Golden Knight
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2012, 05:07:14 pm »
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I like to think of Sir Vander as the Suicidal Knight.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2012, 05:08:19 pm »
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Or Bounty Knight?
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2012, 05:09:01 pm »
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Or Bounty Knight?

Maybe it's just me, but that makes me think of the paper towels...
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2012, 05:10:10 pm »
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It seems that I'm one of a select group who think that Vander is awesome just for countering other knights. Only playing will tell.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2012, 05:11:54 pm »
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I vote for Sir Cantrip.  Whatever is on the board, he can fit in.  A good reliable fellow.

We should start calling them by those kind of names. Ser Terminal, Dame Trasher, Etc.
Are you sure that's such a good idea, Sir Bad Ideas?
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2012, 05:13:09 pm »
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Hey Donald, how DID you pick their names? Are they homages to people involved in the creation of Dominion? Are they just names you liked? Will this be in the Secret History?
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2012, 05:23:35 pm »
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Hey Donald, how DID you pick their names? Are they homages to people involved in the creation of Dominion? Are they just names you liked? Will this be in the Secret History?
Yes, the Secret History covers that.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2012, 05:25:53 pm »
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Vander is clearly a homunculus fashioned by Alchemists using all their extra lead.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2012, 05:29:56 pm »
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Hey Donald, how DID you pick their names? Are they homages to people involved in the creation of Dominion? Are they just names you liked? Will this be in the Secret History?
Yes, the Secret History covers that.


It's a long story, involving one game designer's sad tale of schizophrenia, gender confusion, and time travel.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2012, 05:33:09 pm »
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Vander is clearly a homunculus fashioned by Alchemists using all their extra lead.

Heh, from small preview picture to me he looked a bit like Frazetta's Death Dealer :P
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2012, 05:49:05 pm »
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Hey Donald, how DID you pick their names? Are they homages to people involved in the creation of Dominion? Are they just names you liked? Will this be in the Secret History?
Yes, the Secret History covers that.


It's a long story, involving one game designer's sad tale of schizophrenia, gender confusion, and time travel.

I probably could have passed on it were it not for time travel.  (Side note: Timechangers - add it to your netflix queue now!)
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2012, 06:00:43 pm »
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Hey Donald, how DID you pick their names? Are they homages to people involved in the creation of Dominion? Are they just names you liked? Will this be in the Secret History?
Yes, the Secret History covers that.


It's a long story, involving one game designer's sad tale of schizophrenia, gender confusion, and time travel.

Ah, sounds like Cloud Atlas.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2012, 06:19:40 pm »
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I vote for Sir Cantrip.  Whatever is on the board, he can fit in.  A good reliable fellow.

We should start calling them by those kind of names. Ser Terminal, Dame Trasher, Etc.
Are you sure that's such a good idea, Sir Bad Ideas?

Not all my ideas are bad, just most of them.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2012, 06:20:06 pm »
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I don't think we can expect the Knights to last long in the deck, so the ones that confer some sort of lasting benefit will be better than the ones that don't. This makes Dame Natalie and Sir Vander more of a good idea than might at first be surmised. Also, Sir Michael will slow down the opponent a bit, which should be a good way to win a Knight-v-Knight slugfest.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2012, 06:22:19 pm »
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Thinking about this, are Knight Wars the new Ambassador Wars.

If you can kill off all his Knights first and still have some left, you are in a much better position!
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2012, 06:23:55 pm »
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I don't think we can expect the Knights to last long in the deck, so the ones that confer some sort of lasting benefit will be better than the ones that don't. This makes Dame Natalie and Sir Vander more of a good idea than might at first be surmised. Also, Sir Michael will slow down the opponent a bit, which should be a good way to win a Knight-v-Knight slugfest.

This is true, actually. Also makes VP Knight kinda worst.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2012, 08:06:53 pm »
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Michael, obviously.

Wait, how are the knights different?
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2012, 10:25:21 pm »
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I don't think we can expect the Knights to last long in the deck, so the ones that confer some sort of lasting benefit will be better than the ones that don't. This makes Dame Natalie and Sir Vander more of a good idea than might at first be surmised. Also, Sir Michael will slow down the opponent a bit, which should be a good way to win a Knight-v-Knight slugfest.

This is true, actually. Also makes VP Knight kinda worst.

I was worried about Dame Josephine (Dame VP if you're not Donald) too, but then I remembered all of the benefits to the dual action/victory. Like the fact that she for reals combos with Scout and draws with Crossroads, counts for Silk Road, etc etc. And my favourite one, you can Rebuild her into a Province.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2012, 11:28:37 pm »
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I voted for Vander, and now I'm more convinced. He's the only one who will give a permanent bonus to the deck without being played. (And keep in mind, that with an early Knight you could quite possibly draw Knight/Estate or Knight/copper, forcing a dead Knight.) That is a huge plus in my books. The next two are Anna and Natalie. Both of them give a permanent bonus to the deck after a single play. Michael comes close behind thanks to allowing a single play to hurt opponents significantly. Since such a play will likely come in the early game, it will be quite devastating. Then, the next 5 are in the same camp. They require other infrastructure to use effectively and can't work with just a single play. Bailey won't hurt your deck, so why not have him? Molly can probably find work quite quickly and Sylvia will just do her thing with minimal collision chance. Destry will work OK for either an engine or a BM deck and is pretty good. Martin provides the least useful infrastructure and will need quite an engine around a card which can be spitefully trashed by an opponent choosing to sacrifice their own Knight (eg, Vander). However, his cost of $4 helps him by making him a powerful (and swingy) opening. Last is Josephine. You have to be very careful playing her in the late game or anytime if your opponent has Vander. I would not hesitate to sacrifice a card I likely wouldn't play again in order to rob my opponent of 2 VP in a tight, late game. And, Vander just makes it more appealing.

So, here is my list:
1. Vander
2. Anna
3. Natalie
4. Michael
5. Bailey
6. Martin
7. Sylvia
8. Destry
9. Molly
10. Josephine
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2012, 01:18:38 am »
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Vander is clearly a homunculus fashioned by Alchemists transmutes using all their extra lead.
FTFY
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2012, 02:34:40 am »
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Vander is clearly a homunculus fashioned by Alchemists transmutes using all their extra lead.
FTFY

Transmutes aren't people.  A "transmute" can't fashion a homunculus.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2012, 03:12:20 am »
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I honestly feel like most of the Knights are fairly well balanced and will really be board dependent.
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Re: Best knight?
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2012, 04:18:34 am »
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I vote for Sir Cantrip.  Whatever is on the board, he can fit in.  A good reliable fellow.

We should start calling them by those kind of names. Ser Terminal, Dame Trasher, Etc.
Are you sure that's such a good idea, Sir Bad Ideas?


They obviously should have named them Sir Loin, Sir Plus, Sir Cumference, Dame Nation, Dame Early, Dame Onic... etc.
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