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[Tdog]

http://catanworld.goko.com/prefinery/index.html

You can sign up here for the Catan beta, if anyone is interested.

[Captain_Frisk]

http://catanworld.goko.com/prefinery/index.html

You can sign up here for the Catan beta, if anyone is interested.

I was - and then I read this:

http://www.gamezebo.com/news/2012/08/16/html5-games-get-their-own-dominion-gokocom

Citadels, in particular, seems as though it will be an interesting showcase for how you can monetize a board game that has few or no expansions.  “If a game is really simple and has no expansions, we need to build a meta-game and other things around it that will allow it to be monetized well,” says Howell.  “We took a page from Gardens of Time … we created an isometric city-building game that sits on top, and as you unlock different buildings in the city you get those cards in the game.

Translation: get your wallet ready!

[Tdog]

The beta is most likely free...

[theory]

I've been a big fan of Goko and such, but this goes too far:

“It is not going to be a case of paying for more dice rolls,” said Goodale, adding that players could pay to get an option to increase the odds of receiving better development cards or additional resource production from cities or settlements. The cost of those add-on bonuses have not yet been set, but it will be in the typical micro-transaction range of 99 cents, he said.

To be fair he is not describing actual Catan, but rather some weird MMO Catan variant.  But still.

[Ozle]

Farmville comes to Catan?

[Ozle]

Also, we are all worried that GOKO dont play the games, however thier twitter has a picture of a Board Games Night at Goko of them playing Catan

So thats a relief....



Except.....hang on, someone there is reading the rulebook! What self respecting proper gamer DOESN'T know the rules to Settlers of Catan?!?!


*EDIT* Also, with nothing built yet, how has someone played Knight cards already. #staged

[jonts26]

better than when they played catan on big bang theory.

[WanderingWinder]

Also, we are all worried that GOKO dont play the games, however thier twitter has a picture of a Board Games Night at Goko of them playing Catan

So thats a relief....



Except.....hang on, someone there is reading the rulebook! What self respecting proper gamer DOESN'T know the rules to Settlers of Catan?!?!

I've never played Settlers of Catan. Or been in the same room with anyone who did. I know the gist of it, from hearing some people describe it, but I definitely don't know the rules.

[theory]

Uh, red's opening placements are 8/11 brick/ore and 3/9 sheep/wood?

ಠ_ಠ

[polonkus]

I've never played Settlers of Catan. Or been in the same room with anyone who did. I know the gist of it, from hearing some people describe it, but I definitely don't know the rules.

Burn the heretic!

[eHalcyon]

Uh, red's opening placements are 8/11 brick/ore and 3/9 sheep/wood?

ಠ_ಠ

Insanity wolf loves his beach front property.

[jsh357]

he's better off not knowing the rules tbh

[theory]

*EDIT* Also, with nothing built yet, how has someone played Knight cards already. #staged

This is not impossible or hard to imagine, especially if your second opening placement is on the ore/wheat/sheep.

[jonts26]

Except no one did...

[theory]

I mean, the photo is obviously staged / the game is incompetent for other reasons (opening placement-related), but it is not unrealistic to have played Knights before having built a settlement.  I admit 2 is a little bizarre, since no one else has built anything else, but that is certainly more common than someone starting on 8/11/9/3.

[Ozle]

*EDIT* Also, with nothing built yet, how has someone played Knight cards already. #staged

This is not impossible or hard to imagine, especially if your second opening placement is on the ore/wheat/sheep.

ok, so if at least 2 Knights have been played, why is the Robber still on the Desert?
Plus, 4 development cards bought and no roads at all seems a little strange to me.

(What I actually think is happening is they are just setting it up and showing the cards to the players)

[theory]

OK, I zoomed it up, and the opening placements are even worse.

Brown went on 5/9/10 and 2/8/10.  The 5/9/10 wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact they're all brick and he is nowhere near a Brick port, and he has no wheat either.

Blue started off beautifully with the 6/5/9, but then went on the 2/11/12 ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

White put his first two settlements together, usually a no-no, and pointed their roads at each other, a definite no-no.  I can't see white's numbers but he has zero access to Ore or Brick with no port to compensate.

On this board the ideal start would have been on the 6/5/9, and then probably the 9 wood with a port rather than trying to stake out a 2, 11, or 12 ore.

[theory]

he's better off not knowing the rules tbh

I used to like Catan, then I hated it, and now I love it again.  The variance in the game is like an unlucky Turn 5 shuffle. 

[Kirian]

he's better off not knowing the rules tbh

I used to like Catan, then I hated it, and now I love it again.  The variance in the game is like an unlucky Turn 5 shuffle. 

Ack, I disagree.  The variance is much worse than a bad T5 shuffle, simply because the "shuffle" happens every damn turn.

[Ozle]

I like it, but my friends are rubbish at it so it rarely comes out. They just are bad at making deals.

I think my record is about 9 wins and 1 loss (and the loss because we had a girl playing and the other guys were...sure yeah ill trade you my coal and a wheat for a cow)

[jonts26]

I like it, but my friends are rubbish at it so it rarely comes out. They just are bad at making deals.

I think my record is about 9 wins and 1 loss (and the loss because we had a girl playing and the other guys were...sure yeah ill trade you my coal and a wheat for a cow)

Coal? Cows? What is this, I don't even...

[Kirian]

I like it, but my friends are rubbish at it so it rarely comes out. They just are bad at making deals.

I think my record is about 9 wins and 1 loss (and the loss because we had a girl playing and the other guys were...sure yeah ill trade you my coal and a wheat for a cow)

Coal? Cows? What is this, I don't even...

Presumably they were playing this version:

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/67239/settlers-of-america-trails-to-rails

[theory]

he's better off not knowing the rules tbh

I used to like Catan, then I hated it, and now I love it again.  The variance in the game is like an unlucky Turn 5 shuffle. 

Ack, I disagree.  The variance is much worse than a bad T5 shuffle, simply because the "shuffle" happens every damn turn.

This is absolutely not the case.  By variance, I mean, 6's rolling instead of 8's, or the 10 being rolled a lot.  At the end of the game the bell curve is almost always intact.  What matters is localized pockets of variance, which isn't going to match expectation.  But for the most part, you control how much luck affects you.  If you start the game and put settlements on 8/5/10 and 8/10, well, you're going to 7 out and be subject to variance a lot more than someone who opens on 8/4/10 and 6/10, even though their numbers are slightly worse.

Hence my claim that overall, the luck in the game is definitely there, but it's not a luckfest any more than Dominion is a luckfest if you open Chapel/Silver and draw them on Turn 5.  In which case you are probably lost anyway no matter what.

[Ozle]

Coal = Ore
Cow = Sheep = Wool, no idea where I got cow from, think my mind has gone a bit blurry from continuously refreshing pages all night long!

[Grujah]

OK, I zoomed it up, and the opening placements are even worse.

Brown went on 5/9/10 and 2/8/10.  The 5/9/10 wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact they're all brick and he is nowhere near a Brick port, and he has no wheat either.

Blue started off beautifully with the 6/5/9, but then went on the 2/11/12 ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

White put his first two settlements together, usually a no-no, and pointed their roads at each other, a definite no-no.  I can't see white's numbers but he has zero access to Ore or Brick with no port to compensate.

On this board the ideal start would have been on the 6/5/9, and then probably the 9 wood with a port rather than trying to stake out a 2, 11, or 12 ore.

Maybe they are learning to as they will code it later?

Maybe its better if we don't see a shot of them playing dominion and making terrible openings?