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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #125 on: August 16, 2012, 05:07:41 pm »
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Fortress looks like the one of the simplest cards in the set but I bet it opens up some of the craziest combinations.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #126 on: August 16, 2012, 05:11:57 pm »
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Re: Counterfeit: Donald X finds a way to make us pay 5 for a Copper.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #127 on: August 16, 2012, 05:14:16 pm »
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Don't think of it as a copper. Think of it as a throne room for treasure.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #128 on: August 16, 2012, 05:14:58 pm »
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it should get along well with Bank, especially with that +buy.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #129 on: August 16, 2012, 05:17:19 pm »
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The big issue with bank is if you play multiple counterfeits, you have to trash the treasures and they are no longer in play for bank to count.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #130 on: August 16, 2012, 05:18:19 pm »
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True, but a single counterfeit bank could be very good.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #131 on: August 16, 2012, 05:20:11 pm »
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1. Open double urchin
2. Let the collide within the first few turns
3. Get a mercenary (urchin can trigger itself, right? it doesn't say differently named)
4. Profit

Mercenary seems super strong, but I guess needing two cards to trash is the downside, you'll start running out of starting cruft pretty quickly. Even so, getting one early has got to be super dominating. Later it synergizes with cache, and anything else that fills your deck with trashable cards
You don't have great odds of collision there, and if they don't collide, you don't have much to work with in your deck.
Still, it's better than treasure map with the cantrip effect. And since the urchins are somewhat useful you could afford to get a third to increase your chances. I'll just have to see how it plays
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #132 on: August 16, 2012, 05:20:46 pm »
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Don't think of it as a copper. Think of it as a throne room for treasure.

I know I've seen the concept floated in the forums before, but without the forced trash afterwards.  The trashing actually helps a lot to smooth out the power.  Counterfeiting Copper is relatively weak, but you get to trash that Copper.  Counterfeiting Platinum is terrifying, but you have to trash that Plat.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #133 on: August 16, 2012, 05:21:30 pm »
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So playing counterfeit on a copper has the same effect as moneylender except it gives a buy and doesn't take an action. But I guess $5 vs $4 is a big difference.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #134 on: August 16, 2012, 05:23:11 pm »
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True, but it also works on silver, which you may want to also remove mid-game after an engine ramp-up.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #135 on: August 16, 2012, 05:25:07 pm »
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With FG its one-shot $6.

Edit: I guess its worse than FG/FG anyhow.  :P
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #136 on: August 16, 2012, 05:26:22 pm »
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Oh boy oh boy, I'm going to like Fortress. I was hoping Scavenger's picture would allude to Chancellor somehow, but Scavenger itself is pretty exciting too.

Squire and Goons in the same game is going to be hilarious. Squire, Goons and a trasher like Salvager in the same game is going to be terrifying.

Transmuting a Squire for a Duchy and a Scrying Pool or Familiar... that might be kind of neat.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2012, 05:27:39 pm »
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With FG its one-shot $6.

Edit: I guess its worse than FG/FG anyhow.  :P

Also one-shot $6 with Bank, more if you have some other treasures in play.

Probably not worth it. :P
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #138 on: August 16, 2012, 05:28:32 pm »
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Also one-shot $6 with Bank, more if you have some other treasures in play.

I count $5.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2012, 05:29:12 pm »
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Also one-shot $6 with Bank, more if you have some other treasures in play.

I count $5.

$6 is right, I think. You play the bank, its in play so the second play of it is $3 since there are two treasures in play. Then you trash it.

EDIT: actually no that makes no sense. There are only 2 treasures in play for each bank play. So $5.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #140 on: August 16, 2012, 05:30:16 pm »
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Also one-shot $6 with Bank, more if you have some other treasures in play.

I count $5.

$6 is right, I think. You play the bank, its in play so the second play of it is $3 since there are two treasures in play. Then you trash it.

Uh, wut? If there are 2 Treasures in play, Bank is worth $2.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2012, 05:31:12 pm »
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Also one-shot $6 with Bank, more if you have some other treasures in play.

I count $5.

$6 is right, I think. You play the bank, its in play so the second play of it is $3 since there are two treasures in play. Then you trash it.

Uh, wut? If there are 2 Treasures in play, Bank is worth $2.

Oops, "in play" vs. "played".  You win... this round.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #142 on: August 16, 2012, 05:31:56 pm »
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I was thinking Bank counted treasures played, rather than treasures in play.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #143 on: August 16, 2012, 05:32:53 pm »
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So playing counterfeit on a copper has the same effect as moneylender except it gives a buy and doesn't take an action. But I guess $5 vs $4 is a big difference.
Yep, this is how I think of Counterfeit. It's like a much stronger Moneylender. Since Moneylender is already decent, Counterfeit should be really strong. (Although it is more expensive.)
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #144 on: August 16, 2012, 05:35:47 pm »
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Counterfiet is a good way to get rid of your early game Contraband and get a $7 + 3 buys with 2 restrictions last hurrah in the process.


...or maybe notsomuch.

But a lot of special treasures are things you want early and then don't want later on - Quarry, Talisman. And both of those would be sort of nice to double in the process of getting rid of them.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #145 on: August 16, 2012, 05:36:47 pm »
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Well, Talisman/Querry actually suck when Counterfeited, as they are not left in play.
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #146 on: August 16, 2012, 05:37:43 pm »
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Counterfeit/Horn of Plenty for gaining Victory cards? Or did someone already mention this?
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #147 on: August 16, 2012, 05:39:24 pm »
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Man everything exciting about this card turns out to not work : (
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #148 on: August 16, 2012, 05:40:26 pm »
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Counterfeit/Horn of Plenty for gaining Victory cards? Or did someone already mention this?

That one works!
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Re: Pictures of All Cards (except ruins and havens)
« Reply #149 on: August 16, 2012, 05:41:35 pm »
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It makes a good early game copper trasher and a good final turn money boost. Also it gives a +buy. So that's cool.
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