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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #200 on: August 17, 2012, 01:18:15 pm »
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Looks like there's quite a bit of content there...
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #201 on: August 17, 2012, 01:20:18 pm »
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Also got first adventure done

Me too! 60 - 1! Take THAT Alice the Serf!

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #202 on: August 17, 2012, 01:20:54 pm »
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Where are these BGG threads where everybody is rioting?  I am intimidated by that site. >_>
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #203 on: August 17, 2012, 01:21:10 pm »
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Also got first adventure done

Me too! 60 - 1! Take THAT Alice the Serf!

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Noteworthy though, if Expansions are bought with coins, I earned 10 of 'em for beating Adventure-I
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #204 on: August 17, 2012, 01:21:36 pm »
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You know, I was going to do a recap of all the bullshit, but most of it's above in this thread.

But I'm not.  It's not worth it.  Goko has suckered game companies into buying ~150 licenses for an undetermined amount of time.  Most of those licenses aren't going to ever be seen as playable games.  Dominion may not be a playable game, or at least not one with a significant player base, due to the launch failure and the monetization method.  But Iso will go down, nonetheless, due to the exclusivity agreements.

Those game companies already have their money.  RGG, Mayfair, whoever else--they already have their cash.  How much, Jay?  And for how long did you give away your exclusive license?  Two years?  More?  Perpetuity?  I hope you and Pete Fenlon have your lawyers ready; maybe you'll be able to pry those licenses back.

I don't think it's an entirely pessimistic view to think it possible that online Dominion--and other online games--are dead due to this royal fuck-up.

So.  Until Goko is running, running well, and people are using it, I now extend my (personal) boycott to any and all companies who have contracts with Goko.  I'd love to know exactly which companies they are--obviously Mayfair and RGG, and obviously not Asmadi (was there another company who said "no thanks" in that thread?  I don't remember).

I thought I'd be proven wrong about this whole thing.  I'd still be happy to be proven wrong.  But this... this is the very definition of pathetic.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #205 on: August 17, 2012, 01:22:12 pm »
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Not same coins, Galz.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #206 on: August 17, 2012, 01:23:41 pm »
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Not same coins, Galz.

Ah, fair enough. Honestly, I haven't been able to get it to work with enough consistency to actually check things like that.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #207 on: August 17, 2012, 01:34:35 pm »
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You know, I was going to do a recap of all the bullshit, but most of it's above in this thread.

But I'm not.  It's not worth it.  Goko has suckered game companies into buying ~150 licenses for an undetermined amount of time.  Most of those licenses aren't going to ever be seen as playable games.  Dominion may not be a playable game, or at least not one with a significant player base, due to the launch failure and the monetization method.  But Iso will go down, nonetheless, due to the exclusivity agreements.

Those game companies already have their money.  RGG, Mayfair, whoever else--they already have their cash.  How much, Jay?  And for how long did you give away your exclusive license?  Two years?  More?  Perpetuity?  I hope you and Pete Fenlon have your lawyers ready; maybe you'll be able to pry those licenses back.

I don't think it's an entirely pessimistic view to think it possible that online Dominion--and other online games--are dead due to this royal fuck-up.

So.  Until Goko is running, running well, and people are using it, I now extend my (personal) boycott to any and all companies who have contracts with Goko.  I'd love to know exactly which companies they are--obviously Mayfair and RGG, and obviously not Asmadi (was there another company who said "no thanks" in that thread?  I don't remember).

I thought I'd be proven wrong about this whole thing.  I'd still be happy to be proven wrong.  But this... this is the very definition of pathetic.
*Claps* This is my thoughts exactly. Couldn't put it better myself. Apparently someone also started a discussion over at TeamLiquid.net
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361278#1
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #208 on: August 17, 2012, 01:37:19 pm »
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I wonder how they got all the money
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #209 on: August 17, 2012, 01:46:21 pm »
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How are you guys playing adventure mode? Is there a different URL for it or is it the same as the beta link they provided?
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #210 on: August 17, 2012, 01:47:06 pm »
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Occasionally goko.com will go up for a bit, and presumably some people have managed to register and start adventure mode during those windows.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #211 on: August 17, 2012, 01:47:37 pm »
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How are you guys playing adventure mode? Is there a different URL for it or is it the same as the beta link they provided?

start @ www.goko.com

it seems to have died again.  And warning - the javascript in lobby thing has not been fixed - so make sure whatever password you use here is garbage.  I'd also recommend using a garbage email account.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #212 on: August 17, 2012, 01:47:52 pm »
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I wonder how they got all the money
Well they are clearly good at pitching.

From ednever's interview with Jay of RGG:
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I asked him how he selected FunSockets. He said that people have been coming to him for years asking to develop an online Dominion game. He did not like any of the proposals. Two examples of why:

1- The wanted to make it platform-specific. They would slowly roll out platforms over time. Jay is not a technology guy, so he didn't have counter proposals, but he didn't like the idea. FunSockets came to him with HTML5 - playform agnostic. It's what sold him (even though he hadn't heard of HTML5 before)

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So, promise something (every platform!) that would be great if you actually can deliver it in any meaningful sense. Trouble is, it's not actually feasible. Already we're seeing a gradual platform roll-out.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #213 on: August 17, 2012, 01:49:16 pm »
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I wonder how they got all the money
Well they are clearly good at pitching.

From ednever's interview with Jay of RGG:
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I asked him how he selected FunSockets. He said that people have been coming to him for years asking to develop an online Dominion game. He did not like any of the proposals. Two examples of why:

1- The wanted to make it platform-specific. They would slowly roll out platforms over time. Jay is not a technology guy, so he didn't have counter proposals, but he didn't like the idea. FunSockets came to him with HTML5 - playform agnostic. It's what sold him (even though he hadn't heard of HTML5 before)

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So, promise something (every platform!) that would be great if you actually can deliver it in any meaningful sense. Trouble is, it's not actually feasible. Already we're seeing a gradual platform roll-out.
Eh, I'm not so sure that it can't be done. Just THEY can't do it. At least, on the time-frame that it's getting pushed with.

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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #214 on: August 17, 2012, 01:53:53 pm »
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I wonder how they got all the money
Well they are clearly good at pitching.

From ednever's interview with Jay of RGG:
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I asked him how he selected FunSockets. He said that people have been coming to him for years asking to develop an online Dominion game. He did not like any of the proposals. Two examples of why:

1- The wanted to make it platform-specific. They would slowly roll out platforms over time. Jay is not a technology guy, so he didn't have counter proposals, but he didn't like the idea. FunSockets came to him with HTML5 - playform agnostic. It's what sold him (even though he hadn't heard of HTML5 before)

...
So, promise something (every platform!) that would be great if you actually can deliver it in any meaningful sense. Trouble is, it's not actually feasible. Already we're seeing a gradual platform roll-out.
Eh, I'm not so sure that it can't be done. Just THEY can't do it. At least, on the time-frame that it's getting pushed with.
It might be possible to put something OK on multiple platforms at once, but I'm pretty convinced that if you want to get a great experience on each platform, you need devs who specialize in that platform. This especially goes for mobile devices.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #215 on: August 17, 2012, 02:42:19 pm »
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So goko.com is up and interestingly enough one of the cards in their banner advertisement for Dominion is Alchemist (Alchemy on launch?)
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #216 on: August 17, 2012, 02:42:48 pm »
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So goko.com is up and interestingly enough one of the cards in their banner advertisement for Dominion is Alchemist (Alchemy on launch?)

It's not really up, and no alchemy isn't in the launch.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #217 on: August 17, 2012, 02:54:40 pm »
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Forbidden City seems to work properly.... :'(
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #218 on: August 17, 2012, 02:56:40 pm »
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Forbidden City seems to work properly.... :'(

Is it a game where the object is to look at the screen and press buttons that don't do anything?
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #219 on: August 17, 2012, 02:57:51 pm »
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Forbidden City seems to work properly.... :'(

Is it a game where the object is to look at the screen and press buttons that don't do anything?

Never played it. But the Tutorial goes through fine for me, and I can start Single Player games against bots. Which are both more than I can do with Dominion atm....
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #220 on: August 17, 2012, 02:58:21 pm »
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Forbidden City seems to work properly.... :'(

Is it a game where the object is to look at the screen and press buttons that don't do anything?
Heh, you get buttons. I get blackness.

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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #221 on: August 17, 2012, 02:58:38 pm »
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Forbidden City seems to work properly.... :'(

Is it a game where the object is to look at the screen and press buttons that don't do anything?

Never played it. But the Tutorial goes through fine for me, and I can start Single Player games against bots. Which are both more than I can do with Dominion atm....

There is a sharp looking avatar on the screen though.  Glad they got that right.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #222 on: August 17, 2012, 03:03:21 pm »
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You know, I don't entirely blame Goko for this botch up. I do believe RGG played a role on making sure this launched during Gen Con.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #223 on: August 17, 2012, 03:06:11 pm »
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You know, I don't entirely blame Goko for this botch up. I do believe RGG played a role on making sure this launched during Gen Con.
What I think happened (complete speculation):
1. FunSockets management promises GenCon launch.
2. Goko is not quite ready for this.
3. FunSockets management forces the launch to go through anyway because they want to make the date.
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Re: Do we know when exactly it's going up?
« Reply #224 on: August 17, 2012, 03:20:31 pm »
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...the huge, gaping lack of security. Which is why I'm going to steer clear of the thing for a long time, at least.
This is very telling.  I don't know much about internet security, but if WW won't play Dominion on Goko due to security issues, that is enough to scare me off.  That's like if a bakery comes out with a new cookie, and Cookie Monster himself comes out and says, "This cookie is not safe to eat, so I'm not eating it."  No way am I going anywhere near that cookie.

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