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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2012, 04:49:04 pm »
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Referring to the unnamed card is going to get awkward. Can we just call it the Card Of Unlimited New Tactics?
I see what you did there :)
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2012, 04:50:02 pm »
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Are Altar and Rats the first "Trash something. Gain something else" cards that aren't verbs?

(Though I guess unlike Remodel, Expand, Transmute, etc., the identity of the gained card is independent of the trashed card.)

Trading Post

Trading Post is also not a verb, and the identity of the gained card is independent of the trashed card. Okay, this is consistent.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2012, 04:54:26 pm »
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So an opponents saboteur hitting a fortress seems pretty funny. Also opponents trashing with governor seems cool there. I trash a fortress, gaining a governor, oh look fortress is still right there.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2012, 04:57:23 pm »
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Am I wrong to assume that Procession allows you to play treasure cards during the action phase?

Edit: yes, the card says "action card", in contrast to the spoiler on reddit.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2012, 05:15:01 pm by RiemannZetaJones »
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2012, 04:58:22 pm »
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Also seems plausible to get the whole rats pile with one Fortress in hand? Just keep trashing that same fortress. This seems fun.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2012, 04:58:35 pm »
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Procession - Band of Misfits
Should the card you gain at the end cost one more than BoM or one more than what you played BoM as?

I think this goes together with my question about Throne Room with BoM-as-Feast in another thread in that both have to do with how TR/Procession remembers the BoM after it is trashed.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2012, 04:58:44 pm »
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So an opponents saboteur hitting a fortress seems pretty funny. Also opponents trashing with governor seems cool there. I trash a fortress, gaining a governor, oh look fortress is still right there.

KC+(any TfB)+Fortress = win.
Apprentice draws 12 cards (and a 13th when you actually play Fortress). Procession draws 3 cards, gives a ton of Actions and gains 3 $5 actions. Develop gains you a nice $3/$5 chain, etc...
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2012, 04:59:33 pm »
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Procession - Band of Misfits
Should the card you gain at the end cost one more than BoM or one more than what you played BoM as?

I think this goes together with my question about Throne Room with BoM-as-Feast in another thread in that both have to do with how TR/Procession remembers the BoM after it is trashed.

This was answered by Donald. You gain a $6 card.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2012, 04:59:57 pm »
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2012, 05:00:07 pm »
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Am I wrong to assume that Procession allows you to play treasure cards during the action phase?
You are wrong. IIRC, it says "action" on the card in both places (the card you play and the one you gain). The spoiler just omitted both.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2012, 05:01:11 pm »
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2012, 05:06:02 pm »
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Noble Brigand is to Thief as: Vagrant is to Scout, Scavenger is to Chancellor, Count is to Mandarin. A lot of weak cards getting updated to be strong.

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily. Works best if there is a card like Fishing Village that allows you to ignore Silver entirely.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2012, 05:08:49 pm »
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This was answered by Donald. You gain a $6 card.

OK. Hm, this seems strange to me together with the other ruling (although Donald X. mentioned that that ruling was sort of tentative: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4083.msg87589#msg87589 ).

Following the thinking there I'd have thought that in this case Procession only would see the BoM as whatever card you wanted it to be, and thus never know about what price the original BoM had.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2012, 05:09:01 pm »
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Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2012, 05:10:08 pm by LastFootnote »
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2012, 05:10:01 pm »
+1

Just realized I spoiled the other Ruins when they hadn't been... :/

But I guess that's compensated by my not having found Armory.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2012, 05:11:11 pm »
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Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.
I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option. :)
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2012, 05:12:20 pm »
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Noble Brigand is to Thief as: Vagrant is to Scout, Scavenger is to Chancellor, Count is to Mandarin. A lot of weak cards getting updated to be strong.

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily. Works best if there is a card like Fishing Village that allows you to ignore Silver entirely.

Or grab poor house/squire on the two and hope they don't collide...
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2012, 05:12:30 pm »
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werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2012, 05:14:03 pm »
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werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

No. Procession itself can only gain Action cards, so you get two Duchies maximum from that.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2012, 05:14:20 pm »
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wow, all the card images are so dark.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2012, 05:15:21 pm »
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wow, all the card images are so dark.

It's not called light ages ;)
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2012, 05:15:30 pm »
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werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

No. Procession itself can only gain non-Action cards, so you get two Duchies maximum from that.

Ah, haven't read the "Action" part, but still, I can get 3 cards costing $5, right?

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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2012, 05:16:17 pm »
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Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.
I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option. :)

Well, that's slow. If you have Count in hand with 4 cards you want to trash, you have to discard 2 of them, put one back on your deck, or gain a Copper. So you're really only removing 3 cards max per play. As Donald has said elsewhere, a Chapel that can only trash 3 cards is just much, much slower.
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2012, 05:16:34 pm »
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werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

No. Procession itself can only gain non-Action cards, so you get two Duchies maximum from that.

Ah, haven't read the "Action" part, but still, I can get 3 cards costing $5, right?

Yup!  ;D
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Re: Since the cat is out of the bag...Dominion Leaked Cards
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2012, 05:16:55 pm »
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Noble Brigand is to Thief as: Vagrant is to Scout, Scavenger is to Chancellor, Count is to Mandarin. A lot of weak cards getting updated to be strong.

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily. Works best if there is a card like Fishing Village that allows you to ignore Silver entirely.

You can't actually trash everything and get $3. Read the card again. And, Vagrant is more like a cheap Lab on boards with lots of yuck.
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