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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #225 on: October 10, 2012, 01:15:16 pm »
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Salesman:


This one should be the art for both cards. "Hey, you see that mountain pass right over there, the one behind me? Looks nice, eh? Clouds and shit. What, you say you've never owned a mountain pass before? Well, have I got a deal for you..."
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #226 on: October 10, 2012, 01:18:07 pm »
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Either way, the phrase "when the game ends" seems rather ambiguous to me.  Is there some precedent for it?

Island and Native Village: "return [the set-aside cards] to your deck at the end of the game".

(That said, as discussed elsewhere, that instruction on those cards is redundant, since set-aside cards are automatically returned to your deck at the end of the game anyway by the general rules.)

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Some may argue that the game hasn't ended until the VP have been tallied and a winner has been declared.

The rules are actually quite specific on this point: "The game ends at the end of any player’s turn when...." Score calculation explicitly takes place after the end of the game.

(See <a href="http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=3521.msg115767#msg115767">here</a> for another potential end-of-game timing issue with respect to this set.)
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #227 on: October 10, 2012, 01:39:15 pm »
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Is Salesman appropriately medieval?  It sounds modern to me, but I'm not sure.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #228 on: October 10, 2012, 01:51:07 pm »
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Is Salesman appropriately medieval?  It sounds modern to me, but I'm not sure.

Maybe Vendor? I think that since other Workshop-like gainers sound like you are building something (Armory, Workshop, Ironworks), this should have a similar name. I can donate Manufactory, from one of my cards that didn't win.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #229 on: October 10, 2012, 05:09:52 pm »
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I think either is fine; the original name was just a filler. Ideally a name should stick to the "making stuff" (workshop,ironworks,armory) theme and the cost reduction theme (bridge, highway, although princess doesn't really fit). I think something along the lines of factory (or manufactory) would probably be best.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #230 on: October 10, 2012, 08:45:48 pm »
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Mountain Pass:





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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #231 on: October 10, 2012, 09:01:02 pm »
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I like sirpeebles first mountain pass.  It looks artificial, like a bridge or highway is articificial, something lacking from other images.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #232 on: October 11, 2012, 10:52:45 am »
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Mountain Pass:

pics

While I think these look gorgeous, they should be drawings though. :-\

Unless they're like, ultra-realistic.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #233 on: October 16, 2012, 03:46:02 pm »
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Someone designed an image for Archivist already.  I thought it was in the Archivist thread, but apparently not.  Anybody remember where that was?  If so, that's one less image that still needs to be made for the set.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #234 on: October 16, 2012, 11:43:08 pm »
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Where are the winners for challenges 17 and 18 in the first post?

I couldn't find many images for "Barge". The closest I could find was this:

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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #235 on: October 21, 2012, 09:11:00 am »
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One thing this set is definitely low on is Attack cards. We currently have 2 out of 22 cards. I sort of wish there was a non-cursing Attack challenge before it were over.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #236 on: October 21, 2012, 10:24:34 am »
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One thing this set is definitely low on is Attack cards. We currently have 2 out of 22 cards. I sort of wish there was a non-cursing Attack challenge before it were over.

I hadn't realized that the cards from challenges 17 and 18 haven't been added yet. That makes it only 2 out of 27 cards are Attack. This is pretty low compared to other sets:

Dominion = 5/25
Intrigue = 4/25
Seaside = 5/26
Alchemy = 2/12
Prosperity = 3/25
Cornucopia = 3/13
Hinterlands = 3/26
Dark Ages = 6/35
Promo = 0/5
Total = 31/192 = 16.1%

If our set has 2/28, this is 7.1%, and if we get another attack in the Second Chance contest, it will be 3/28 = 10.7%. I guess this is about in line with Hinterlands and Prosperity, but it really would have been nice to have at least one more Attack.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #237 on: October 21, 2012, 12:28:28 pm »
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The 4 types of attacks are junk giving, hand altering, top deck manipulation and trashing. Garrison seems to fill both the deck and hand niches, while Amulet gives opponents their trashing fix (Prosperity similarly can get away with not having a trashing attack because it has Bishop). I think the set's fine for attacks.

There could be some options for attacks within the current cards. Academy looks like the card that's most likely to change, and maybe it could be changed to a mostly helpful "attack" (eg Each other player discards down to 4 cards in hand then draws a card). Crystal Ball's spy effect could also become an attack (making it the first Treasure/Attack) but that card's powerful and AP heavy enough as is. Panacea could potentially have an attack option added to it, since it's such a varied card anyway. Farmers' Market could do with a fortune teller style attack for symmetry (each player searches for an action or treasure; you draw the good card and discard the rest, they discard the good card and put back the rest), but I don't know if it adds anything much.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #238 on: October 22, 2012, 06:23:44 pm »
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Where are the winners for challenges 17 and 18 in the first post?

I couldn't find many images for "Barge". The closest I could find was this:


Doesn't look very good. Maybe a good idea could be using image that Canal currently has for Barge and one of those for Canal:


Canal Scene by William Meritt Chase

View on Enkhuizen by Cornelis Smelter
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 06:27:08 pm by hsiale »
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #239 on: October 24, 2012, 09:29:08 pm »
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Possible images for Recruiter:



I am not a photoshop expert, so if someone else could make the card I would appreciate it
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2012, 11:04:26 am »
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rinkworks, I'd be willing to go with this change on Canal if you want to make the change to the first post and someone wants to change the card.

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$6* - Victory

If the Province or Colony supply pile is empty (if it was available), then this is worth 4 VP. Otherwise, this is worth 2 VP.
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During your Buy phase, if two supply piles are empty, then this costs $3 less (but not less than $0).

There don't seem to be any problems from having the below line ability be a cost reduction or eliminating the "when the game ends" language.

I am still unsure about the "if it was available" part since it introduces some confusion in non-Colony games. The other option mentioned was to change the Province and Colony reference to "Victory card that costs at least $8" to get around referencing a card from another expansion. I am not sure this is really necessary since we have Potion cards in the set which use a card from another expansion, but it could work. I assume at the end of the game all costs revert back to face value? But I'm not sure about that. I definitely do not want to simply remove Colony.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #241 on: October 29, 2012, 08:19:17 am »
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So, is this mini-set complete? Is there anything else that needs to be settled, such as the name of the expansion? Maybe we should have a contest for that too!
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #242 on: October 29, 2012, 09:28:13 am »
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Yeah we need to settle for a name! And images for all the cards, probably.

There's lots of variety in this set, how about we call it Cor­nu­co­pi­a?  :D
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #243 on: October 29, 2012, 03:47:08 pm »
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Dominion: Democracy, since all the cards were voted on?
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #244 on: October 29, 2012, 04:04:58 pm »
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I tried to find a theme. It's really hard. How about a mixture of Cornucopia and Prosperity, like "Dominion: Progress" (that also fits because it uses themes of all expansions).

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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #245 on: October 29, 2012, 11:05:30 pm »
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I like

Dominion: Enlightenment or Dominion: Renaissance as there are quite a few cards that deal with religion, science or the arts (Museum, canals, retort, Panacea, Academy, Harbringer, Aqua Vitae, Missionary, Astrolabe, Archivist).

My vote is Dominion: Renaissance
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #246 on: October 30, 2012, 08:52:02 am »
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Dominion: Renaissance sounds nice. I'd vote for that.

I wonder if we could somehow get this set on Iso or something online to playtest these cards?
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #247 on: October 30, 2012, 09:12:51 am »
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Salesman:


This one should be the art for both cards. "Hey, you see that mountain pass right over there, the one behind me? Looks nice, eh? Clouds and shit. What, you say you've never owned a mountain pass before? Well, have I got a deal for you..."

I hear Shelbyville has got a Mountain....
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #248 on: October 30, 2012, 09:57:08 am »
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Dominion: Renaissance sounds nice. I'd vote for that.

I wonder if we could somehow get this set on Iso or something online to playtest these cards?

I highly doubt Iso would be an option... Dominion.Net might be, though.
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Re: The Contest Set Card List
« Reply #249 on: October 31, 2012, 04:23:51 pm »
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How about dominion: Community
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