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Dominion US National Championships
« on: July 10, 2012, 05:25:31 pm »
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Given the amount of controversy around the Online Qualifier (2 of the 4 finalists dropped out and an 18 page forum thread still continues...) I'm a little leery of posting anything, but here goes...

I'm headed to Chicago this weekend to represent DS.com at the US Nationals.

I think this is a fantastic opportunity and I want to share the details with all of you as much as possible.

The easiest way would be a write-up after the event, but maybe I can do better?

One option is that I take pictures and tweet the event (as much as I am allowed). It would let everyone here see the kingdoms in real time (or maybe right after they are played?).

My iPhone does not do a good job with letting me post directly to the forum, but I'm open to other options? Does someone (or some people) want to re-post my tweets here? Or do I email my real-time reports to someone who posts them? Or is the whole 'real-time' thing over rated and people are happy to get a report when I get back on Sunday?

From what I know of the schedule it is:

Friday: Dinner with all the qualifiers
Saturday morning: Prelims
Saturday afternoon: Single elimination semi's and finals
Saturday evening: Dinner with all the qualifiers

Would love the community's thoughts.

I'll do my best to represent.

(Is anyone else from here going to be at the championship? I know Invincible Overloard. Anyone else?)

Ed
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Re: US National Qualifier
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2012, 05:27:23 pm »
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Go pwn ;)
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2012, 05:29:56 pm »
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I sat next to Ed during the final match of Questioneer's qualifier, where Invincible Overlord triumphed over me, Ed, and another guy (bruising, bruising Pirate Ship game). I know Ed really wanted it, so I'm thrilled he is our f.ds champion. Good luck, buddy!
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2012, 05:40:05 pm »
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I wish you good luck. Maybe theory can pay you for some promotion for f.DS!? ;)

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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2012, 05:45:50 pm »
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I wish you good luck. Maybe theory can pay you for some promotion for f.DS!? ;)

At the very least a F.DS T-Shirt!
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2012, 05:51:16 pm »
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I think if you post here when you have free time over the next couple days, we would all be happy to try to help you play 3p-4p games on Isotropic.

But at the same time, we all know how much of a crapshoot 3p-4p can sometimes be, so relax!  May you perpetually be P1 on Cutpurse boards.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2012, 05:56:32 pm »
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MAY THE SEA HAGS NEVER SET ON THE EMPIRE OF YOU GOING FIRST.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2012, 05:59:00 pm »
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May your Hag hit as many other Hags as possible.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2012, 06:03:54 pm »
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May you Remake your Estates on the first reshuffle.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2012, 06:06:55 pm »
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May the Forge be with you.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2012, 06:07:24 pm »
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May your KCs and Mountebanks be united.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2012, 06:46:22 pm »
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2012, 07:14:43 pm »
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I will be representing Gamicon of Iowa City at the championships.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2012, 07:33:07 pm »
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I will be representing Gamicon of Iowa City at the championships.

IOWA!  Woot.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2012, 09:37:14 pm »
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I just received the official invitation from Jay:

Congrats on qualifying for the US finals that will lead to the WM Dominion tournament at Gencon. The US finals will be held on July 14th at the Hilton Chicago O'hare Airport. I have reserved rooms
for all players beginning Friday evening and continuing Saturday night. The tournament will be held on Saturday with several preliminary rounds in the morning and the semi-finals and finals in the afternoon after lunch. We will host all players to a dinner reception Friday evening (time and place will be determined later), and breakfast, lunch, and dinner on Saturday.
 
As for the tournament itself, we do not yet know how many total players will attend, but we expect something in the 10-12 range once all regional tournaments are done.
 
As suggested above, we will start will several preliminary rounds (Saturday morning) with players playing different sets of cards with different players - our goal is for each player to play against every other player during these rounds. We will advance at least half the players to the semi-final rounds, which will be single elimination and lead to the final. All games will be 3-player, when possible.
 
Points will be scored for each game - 5 for first, 3 for second and 1 for third. Tied players will share the points for their positions (e.g., tied for first is 4 points each). We will neither record nor use the victory points scored in a game for determining advancement to the next rounds. If there is a tie in the semis or finals, it will be broken, when necessary, by the players playing another game.
 
By accepting the invitation to play, you agree to play in every round you are assigned to play in. No player may choose to opt out because they feel they will not advance to the next round.
When a player has been eliminated, he or she is welcome to remain to watch the other rounds or play pickup games with other players - or use the time to enjoy the Chicago area. All players are invited to all the meals we sponsor, but may choose to use those times for their own activities away from us.

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Thoughts:
1- 3-player? Given what I had heard from the DS.com and the Detroit tournament I had thought the tournament would be 4-player. Guess we were wrong.

2- 5/3/1 -> effectively the same as 6/3/0, right? Just makes people feel different so they get a point for playing?

3- 10-12 players. I'm surprised it's that small. If they are doing 3p games and want a semi-final they will have to advance 9 of the 10/12 -> so most people will make the semis. Then we all know how luck you have to be to win a single game...


Theory: Would love to play some good 3p games against people here. Not sure what my schedule looks like over the next few days. When I know more I will post times. Hopefully some people can meet in the tournament lobby and we can give it a go!

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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2012, 11:24:42 pm »
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I will be representing Gamicon of Iowa City at the championships.

IOWA!  Woot.

Are you from Iowa, Powerman?
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2012, 11:52:43 pm »
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I will be representing Gamicon of Iowa City at the championships.

IOWA!  Woot.

Are you from Iowa, Powerman?

Well, I hate to give out personal information.  But I'm not not from Iowa ;)
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2012, 08:30:52 am »
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2012, 09:13:49 am »
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Congrats Ed on making it!!!  I know being at the finals of our Detroit qualifier that you will do well along with Tobin.

Some thoughts...

1. Pics and report after is fine...concentrate on your games, its your time to focus on winning and nothing else!

2. 3-player- probably because of the number of participants- 3player games works best when there are less than 16 people at a tourny.
    Jay told me they strive for 3 or 4 players game as US Finals and Worlds.  If the participants increase then I'm sure you will see more 4player games.

3. 5/3/1 points system is virtually the same- works for 3 players.  I'm glad Jay is going to this system that was suggested online.  We will play with this system at the next qualifier- I hope others do the same.

4. More qualifiers will come in the next couple of years I'm sure.  I would think they want at least 16+ players in the US Nationals.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2012, 01:49:18 pm »
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ednever, if you can manage to get video of some of the games, that would be amazing! Maybe if you have some time that you're not playing, you could record another game? Or perhaps get a spectator/tournament official to do it?

Pretty awesome that it's 3 player instead of 4. That's halfway to 2 player! We're almost there! :D

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No player may choose to opt out because they feel they will not advance to the next round.

This rule is humorously similar to the original point counter ruling: it is unenforceable, and there can be no consequence for breaking it. I'm sure everyone who qualified is an honorable and wonderful person who will play to win even when they are out of contention, but forcing already-eliminated players into kingmaking positions is just ugly.

I understand that it seems nice for all the games to be 3-player, but it seems extremely unprofessional to ask players to waste their time when they've already lost, and even more so to ask people still in competition to play games with essentially a loose cannon. An eliminated player has no reason not to just to do silly things for laughs, or try as hard as possible from turn 1 to kingmake for their favored opponent, or take any number of other irrelevant actions that have no place in a tournament.

I hope Jay reconsiders this rule, or that eliminated players ignore it and leave anyway.
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2012, 01:58:09 pm »
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and there can be no consequence for breaking it.

Except they miss out on a the free dinner at the end!

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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2012, 02:36:41 pm »
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2- 5/3/1 -> effectively the same as 6/3/0, right? Just makes people feel different so they get a point for playing?

One major difference is that this tier system allows for an even split in the case of ties. Every game assigns 9 points to 3 people regardless of the final scores.

So, you have some motivation to avoid ties (unless you're falling behind, in which case go tie!).
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2012, 02:24:36 am »
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I hope that I can actually make it back to Chicago on time... Are travel expenses covered? I sent Jay an e-mail about this, but he hasn't responded yet.

I also haven't played a single game of Dominion in nearly 2 months  :(
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2012, 02:44:02 am »
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I hope that I can actually make it back to Chicago on time... Are travel expenses covered? I sent Jay an e-mail about this, but he hasn't responded yet.

I also haven't played a single game of Dominion in nearly 2 months  :(

You also had never played with Cornucopia before, but you did just fine  ;)
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Re: Dominion US National Championships
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2012, 03:17:05 pm »
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Thanks for everyone's support.

Tonight I'm going to a local gaming store (cafe mox) to play some 3p in-person Dominion. (if you are in Seattle, come on by!)

For the event itself, I think setting up video is too much for me (although I'll suggest it to Jay).

I will live tweet the event with pictures.

You can follow me at @ednever. I will also hash tag #domnat

I think it would be great if someone(s) volunteered to coy the tweets over to this site. If not, I'll move them over when I get back on Sunday or Monday.

Thanks again for all the support and knowledge sharing from this community!

Ed
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