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[Kirian]

Not exactly a full game report, just a snippet:

You play a Cellar.
... You get +1 action.
... You discard 3 Estates and a Copper.
... (You reshuffle.)
... You draw 2 Estates and 2 Coppers.

There were, of course, only 3 Estates in my deck.

[play2draw]

On the bright side, now you have enough copper to buy another cellar!

[Superdad]

Assuming it's early-game, it could be a blessing - giving you a likely gold next turn.

Funny still though.

[Kirian]

Assuming it's early-game, it could be a blessing - giving you a likely gold next turn.

An interesting thought!  This was, alas, on something like turn 11.  (I lost the game on 5/2 vs. a 4/3, when I should have opened 4/2.  This was midgame when I was struggling to catch up.)

[Zaphod]

My first thought was along the lines of what Superdad said.  Didn't the reshuffle help you, rather than hurt you?

Without playing the Cellar, you would have had only one Copper that turn, and after the turn you would have discarded and then shuffled.  The three Estates and one Copper would have gone into your draw pile, or into your next hand.

After you played the Cellar, you had two Coppers, and after the turn, two Estates, two Coppers and a Cellar went into your discard pile while the rest of your cards went to your hand or your draw pile.  By turn 11, most of your cards should have been better than two Estates, two Coppers and a Cellar, so you improved your next turn (at least), while (very slightly) improving your current turn.

That's how I'm reading it, but I'm probably just missing something.  Feel free to point out the flaw in my logic.

[Kirian]

That's how I'm reading it, but I'm probably just missing something.  Feel free to point out the flaw in my logic.

No specific flaw; it was the reshuffle itself that was horrible.  Playing the Cellar was obviously a good play, as it saved me from having two terrible turns in a row.  With or without the Cellar, though, it sucks to draw two of the three crap cards you just discarded--this turn or the next.

[matt979]

Conversely, my last Chapel game I got Ch/E/E/E/C on Turn 3.  (Once every 99 times the sun will shine especially brightly...)

[Graystripe77]

Conversely, my last Chapel game I got Ch/E/E/E/C on Turn 3.  (Once every 99 times the sun will shine especially brightly...)

Funny.  a couple days ago i had 2 games IN A ROW where that happened to me.

[Superdad]

Yesterday I played exactly two games in my available free-time for the day.

Game 1 my opponent opens Treasure Map/Chapel, and finds two treasure maps on turn 5.
Game 2, my opponent opens Tactician/Embargo on a tournament board. He gets a turn 4 gold and a province on turn 6 (or so) and picks up tournaments afterwards. He always draws his tourney with his only province. Shortly thereafter, he has emptied the tournament deck. By the time I get my first province, he's already at three with 4 tournaments.

It happens.