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Re: Most VPs in 4 turns (again)
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2012, 11:28:52 am »
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The simplest way I could find to fix the problems in wuthefwasthat's solution reduces the score to only 285 points:

Kingdom: Hamlet (Hm), Watchtower (Wt), Develop (Dv), Fortress (Ft), Nomad Camp (Nc), Procession (Pr), Catacombs (Ct), Band of Misfits (Bd), Goons (Gn), Peddler (Pd)
Base Cards: Copper (C), Duchy (D), Hovel (H), Necropolis (N), Overgrown Estate (O)

Turn 1: Draw CCCCH
Play 4C
Buy Nc1

Turn 2: Draw NcCCCO
Play Nc and 3C
Buy Wt1, Hm1

Turn 3: Draw N,NcHmWtH
Play N and Nc
Play Hm, draw O, discard HO
Play Wt, draw 6C
Play 6C
Buy Pr1,Pr2,Pd1

Turn 4: Draw C,PrPrNcWt
Play Pr1-Pr2:
- Play Nc1 twice, Nc1-->Ct1, reveal Wt, trash Ct1, gain Ft1, trash Ft1, put Ft1 in hand
- Play Ft1 twice, draw Pd1,Hm1, Ft1-->Ct2, put Ft1 in hand, reveal Wt, trash Ct2, gain Pr3 on deck
- Pr2-->Ct3, reveal Wt, trash Ct3, gain Dv1 on deck
Play Hm1, draw Dv1, discard C for +1 Buy
Play Pd1, draw Pr3
Play Pr3-Dv1:
- Ft1-->Dv2,Bd1 on deck, put Ft1 in hand
- Ft2-->Wt2,Bd2 on deck, put Ft1 in hand
- Dv1-->Pr4, reveal Wt, put Pr4 on deck
Play Wt1, draw Pr4,Wt2,Bd1,Bd2,Dv2

Play Pr4-Bd1(Pr):
- Play Bd2(Pr) twice:
  - Play Dv2 twice:
    - Ft1-->Wt3,D on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Ft1-->Dv3,D on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Dv2-->Pr5, reveal Wt, put Pr5 on deck
  - Play Ft1 twice, draw Pr5,Dv3, Ft1-->Ct4, put Ft1 in hand, reveal Wt, trash Ct4, gain Hm2 on deck
  - Bd2-->Gn1, reveal Wt, put Gn1 on deck
- Play Pr5 twice:
  - Play Dv3 twice:
    - Ft1-->Dv3,Bd3 on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Ft1-->Wt4,Bd4 on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Dv3-->Pr6, reveal Wt, put Pr6 on deck
  - Play Wt2 twice, draw Pr6,Wt4,Bd3,Bd4,Dv3, Wt2-->Nc2, reveal Wt, gain Nc2 on deck
  - Pr5-->Ct5, reveal Wt, trash Ct5, gain Hm3 on deck
- Bd1-->Gn2, reveal Wt, put Gn2 on deck

Play Pr6-Bd3(Pr):
- Play Bd4(Pr) twice:
  - Play Dv3 twice:
    - Ft1-->Wt5,D on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Ft1-->Dv4,D on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Dv3-->Pr7, reveal Wt, put Pr7 on deck
  - Play Ft1 twice, draw Pr7,Dv4, Ft1-->Ct6, put Ft1 in hand, reveal Wt, trash Ct6, gain Nc3 on deck
  - Bd4-->Gn3, reveal Wt, put Gn3 on deck
- Play Pr7 twice:
  - Play Dv4 twice:
    - Ft1-->Dv5,Bd5 on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Ft1-->Wt6,Bd6 on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Dv4-->Pr8, reveal Wt, put Pr8 on deck
  - Play Wt4 twice, draw Pr8,Wt6,Bd5,Bd6,Dv5, Wt4-->Nc4, reveal Wt, gain Nc4 on deck
  - Pr5-->Ct7, reveal Wt, trash Ct7, gain Hm4 on deck
- Bd3-->Gn4, reveal Wt, put Gn4 on deck

Play Pr8-Bd5(Pr):
- Play Bd6(Pr) twice:
  - Play Dv5 twice:
    - Ft1-->Wt7,D on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Ft1-->Dv6,D on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Dv5-->Pr9, reveal Wt, put Pr9 on deck
  - Play Ft1 twice, draw Pr9,Dv6, Ft1-->Ct8, put Ft1 in hand, reveal Wt, trash Ct8, gain Nc5 on deck
  - Bd6-->Gn5, reveal Wt, put Gn5 on deck
- Play Pr9 twice:
  - Play Dv6 twice:
    - Ft1-->Dv7,Bd7 on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Ft1-->Wt8,Bd8 on deck, put Ft1 in hand
    - Dv6-->Nc6, reveal Wt, put Nc6 on deck
  - Play Wt6 twice, draw Nc6,Wt8,Bd7,Bd8,Dv7, Wt6-->Nc7, reveal Wt, gain Nc7 on deck
  - Pr9-->Ct9, reveal Wt, put Ct9 on deck
- Bd5-->Gn6, reveal Wt, put Gn6 on deck

Play Dv7, Nc6-->Wt9,Bd9 on deck
Play Wt8, draw Wt9,Bd9,Gn6
Play Gn6

Play Bd7(Pr)-Bd8(Pr):
- Play Bd9(Pr) twice:
  - Play Ft1 twice, draw Ct10,Nc7 Ft1-->Bd10, put Ft1 in hand, reveal Wt, put Bd10 on deck
  - Play Wt9 twice, draw Bd10,Gn5,Nc5,D,Wt7, Wt9-->Nc7, reveal Wt, put Nc8 on deck
  - Bd9-->Gn7, reveal Wt, put Gn7 on deck
- Play Bd10(Pr) twice:
  - Play Ft1 twice, draw Gn7,Nc8, Ft1-->Ct10, put Ft1 in hand, reveal Wt, trash Ct10, gain Pr10 on deck
  - Play Ft1 twice, draw Pr10,D, Ft1-->nothing, put Ft1 in hand
  - Bd10-->Gn8, reveal Wt, put Gn8 on deck
- Bd8-->Gn9, reveal Wt, put Gn9 on deck

Hand: Pr10,D,Gn7,Ct9,Gn5,Nc5,D,Wt7,Nc7,Nc8,Ft1

Play Pr10-Ct9, draw Gn9,Gn8,Gn4,Hm4,Nc4,Gn3, Ct9-->Gn10, gain Nc7, reveal Wt, put Nc7 on deck
Play Hm4, draw Gn10, discard D for +1 Buy
Play Ft, draw Nc7
Play Gn3,Gn4,Gn5,Gn7,Gn8,Gn9,Gn10
Play Nc4,Nc5,Nc7,Nc8
Play Wt7, draw Nc3,D,D,Wt5,Gn2,Hm3
Play Hm3, draw Nc2, discard 2D
Play Gn2
Play Nc2,Nc3
Play Wt5, draw Gn1,Hm2,D,D,Wt3,C
Play Hm2, draw C, discard 2D
Play Gn1
Play Wt3, draw 4C
Play 6C

Have played: 10 Goons, 8 Nomad Camps, 4 Hamlets, 1 Peddler, 6 Coppers ($43, 23 Buys)
Buy 3 Colonies, a Province, an Estate, 9 Peddlers and 9 Coppers, get 230 VP

Have 285VP (3 Colonies, 1 Province, 6 Duchies, 1 Estate, 230 VP chips)
Game ends on piles: Processions, Catacombs, Bands of Misfits, Goons, Peddlers
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Re: Most VPs in 4 turns (again)
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2012, 01:25:01 pm »
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Re: Most VPs in 4 turns (again)
« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2012, 11:49:42 pm »
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Your name is so perfect for this.
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Re: Most VPs in 4 turns (again)
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2012, 12:09:51 pm »
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Quote from: Wandering Winder
How about we make a variant where instead of shuffling your deck, you stack it? CC CC and wutthefwasthat instantly becomes the best player players in the world universe
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Re: Most VPs in 4 turns (again)
« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2013, 09:21:58 pm »
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What's the probability of being able to do CC's solution? The factors are

-A 4/3 opening with a shelter last
-One of top 4 cards of the next shuffle being Hamlet, and the other 4 of the top 5 being Nomad Camp, Watchtower and the 2 shelters that were reshuffled
-The top 4 cards of the next shuffle being 2x Procession, Nomad Camp and Watchtower, then the next 2 being Peddler and Hamlet in either order.

The probabilty seems pretty high for something so mind blowing. Has anyone tried replicating this in Goko (if all the cards are there; I've never used it).
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Re: Most VPs in 4 turns (again)
« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2013, 10:19:47 pm »
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4/3 opening: 5/12
Shelter last in 4/3 opening: 3/5
Top six cards after shuffle are the three shelters, watchtower, hamlet, Nomad camp: 1/728
hamlet is one of the top 5: 4/5
Cards 2-5 after shuffle are 2 procession, nomad camp, watchtower: 1/1820
Cards 6-7 are Peddler and hamlet: 1/66
Chance of pulling off CC's incredible solution:  0.00000022870902%

I think I did it right.... anyway, I'd be surprised if anyone has done it :P
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Re: Most VPs in 4 turns (again)
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2013, 10:35:25 pm »
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4/3 opening: 5/12
Shelter last in 4/3 opening: 3/5
Top six cards after shuffle are the three shelters, watchtower, hamlet, Nomad camp: 1/728
hamlet is one of the top 5: 4/5
Cards 2-5 after shuffle are 2 procession, nomad camp, watchtower: 1/1820
Cards 6-7 are Peddler and hamlet: 1/66
Chance of pulling off CC's incredible solution:  0.00000022870902%

I think I did it right.... anyway, I'd be surprised if anyone has done it :P

It's the top 5 cards after the first shuffle that matter (the third shelter is a residual), and Cards 1-4 and 5-6 of the second shuffle, but otherwise that seems right. The probabilities will be slightly higher because there's one fewer card in each shuffle, and one less "key" card in the first.

It is a very low probability indeed though; I forgot how unlikely specific shuffles of card decks were. I had hope because there were only 2 reshuffles, but there you go.
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