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[theory]

...is not live yet.

A signup form will go live on the main page of the blog at June 18th, 1:00PM EDT (GMT -4).  Actual distribution of the beta invites will occur at some later date.

When the beta invites do go out, we expect that they will be distributed in waves of approximately 50 invites each week.  Those who have contributed either front-page articles to DominionStrategy.com or code to CouncilRoom.com will be given priority.  Subsequently, beta invites will be distributed to a mix of the first to sign up and active community members.  We think this is the best way to strike a balance between rewarding community participation and allowing equal access to all who are interested. 

In any event, we expect there to be enough room such that everyone who is interested will, sooner or later, be able to take part.

If you have any concerns or feedback, please let us know.

[Thisisnotasmile]

Thank you for publishing the only article I have written.

[DStu]

Those who have contributed either front-page articles to DominionStrategy.com or code to CouncilRoom.com will be given priority.

Does this count?

[Forge!!!]

Thanks for the info, this is pretty exciting.

[luliin]

I signed up for the BETA while in email contact with Trisha, who seems to be somewhat in charge of anwering all the questions about the app. Will I still have to sign up or do you think that's already covered?
 She said she put me an Lekkit on the list. Still thought I might ask!

[Thisisnotasmile]

I signed up for the BETA while in email contact with Trisha, who seems to be somewhat in charge of anwering all the questions about the app. Will I still have to sign up or do you think that's already covered?
 She said she put me an Lekkit on the list. Still thought I might ask!

I guess they will send you an invite directly, and give Theory his batches of fifty to hand out as he sees fit, and other invites will go to other people who deserve them. If they've told you directly you've got an invite, I'd assume you will get your invite directly.

[Ozle]

Theory, have I ever told you that you are my favourite administrator of this site whose name begins with a T....

[werothegreat]

How many members does this site even have?

[LastFootnote]

How many members does this site even have?

As of now, 1141.

[Watno]

starting to spam reload now.

[blueblimp]

Bam, signed up.

[Insomniac]

Signed up, side note any idea when the first wave will go out?

[Watno]

damn, think i was too slow

[Thisisnotasmile]

So I've written a front page article, am one of the most active members of the forum and am one of the first to sign up. Pretty good odds.

[LastFootnote]

damn, think i was too slow

Don't worry about it. I think the people who don't make it into the first round of the Beta will probably outnumber those who do. You're in good company! 

[theory]

Signed up, side note any idea when the first wave will go out?

To be honest, I don't know.  As far as I know, there is no beta testing going on right now.

[permanoob]

Signed up. I feel like I was quick on the trigger. Not sure.

Edit: 37 minutes Not so shabby, although I coulda done better.

[Insomniac]

Signed up, side note any idea when the first wave will go out?

To be honest, I don't know.  As far as I know, there is no beta testing going on right now.

Thanks for the info, (and running an official sign up )

[Qvist]

Signed up, *cross fingers*

[ftl]

w00t!

...I was going to camp the page at the right time, but I just got back from Italy yesterday and I was jetlagged and I forgot and I was 30 minutes late so I was not early to sign up

[b33]

i am b33's son and i love dominion as much as he does and do you guys have a link to signup blog

[michaeljb]

Like the OP says, on the main page of the blog.

http://dominionstrategy.com/2012/06/18/funsockets-dominion-beta-signup/

[jotheonah]

Only 8 hour late. But I did get that Treasure Map article on the front page. Here's hopin.

[Schlippy]

Do you get some confirmation E-mail for signing up? Asking because I did not get any.

[Captain_Frisk]

Do you get some confirmation E-mail for signing up? Asking because I did not get any.

We are all too busy playing dominion at fun sockets to respond.


No, I think theory built it with google docs, and there is no email conf.

[Nakamura]

Great, now that you are all busy testing I will get to level 40 on isotropic very fast 

[Thisisnotasmile]

Are we testing? I am not testing

I thought it was just people who went directly to FS who are testing at the moment?

[WanderingWinder]

Are we testing? I am not testing

I thought it was just people who went directly to FS who are testing at the moment?

Pretty sure you're right. At any rate, I'm not testing.

[Insomniac]

Are we testing? I am not testing

I thought it was just people who went directly to FS who are testing at the moment?

Thats what I've heard, but I dont know why there isn't like a ton more information here if even one of them is a member of this form, athough I suppose theres probably an NDA so maybe thats why

[greatexpectations]

we've waited what a year and a half now for an official version?  an extra few days / weeks before the Beta is fully rolled out isn't really a big deal.  enjoy isotropic while we can.

[Captain_Frisk]

To be clear - I am not testing.  I was being a wise ass.  I haven't seen anything that indicates any members of f.DS are testing - except for DXV.

[Thisisnotasmile]

To be clear - I am not testing.  I was being a wise ass.  I haven't seen anything that indicates any members of f.DS are testing - except for DXV.

And ftl... http://dominionstrategy.com/2012/06/18/funsockets-dominion-beta-signup/#comment-17281

[Insomniac]

To be clear - I am not testing.  I was being a wise ass.  I haven't seen anything that indicates any members of f.DS are testing - except for DXV.

And ftl... http://dominionstrategy.com/2012/06/18/funsockets-dominion-beta-signup/#comment-17281

based on what he said he definetly had to do some NDA

[Donald X.]

I think 50 people were initially invited, and the number will go up every few days, probably in increments of 50 initially. The people invited so far have not been on much; I have seen maybe 6 people in the room at once? This group included some Dominion playtesters and Funsockets-related people. As we speak the room just has me, CyberKev63, and FSAD.

[theory]

I have seen myself, jonts, ftl, rrenaud, drheld, and a couple of others.  It is unrelated to our signup, because we are only releasing our list to them today.

I have been so slammed with work and trying to organize this qualifier that I have only played a single game on FS.  But I did beat rrenaud, take that! 

[ftl]

I've played a bunch! I haven't been inactive! I've seen you there Donald!

[jonts26]

Yeah, I've been testing the program out a bunch now. I know everyone is really anxious to hear all about it, and to be honest I'm anxious to start discussing it with more people, but I can't really talk about it on here. There are some things which probably would be ok, but in the interest of better safe than sorry, I will not be discussing any details at all on this forum.

[Ozle]

There is a super secret beta test forum you could talk about these things though?

[Insomniac]

There is a super secret beta test forum you could talk about these things though?

They can't talk about that either! NDA's are evil (but necessary [sometimes])

[Ozle]

There is a super secret beta test forum you could talk about these things though?

They can't talk about that either! NDA's are evil (but necessary [sometimes])

Ahh, but how do you know that unless you have seen the NDA, thus confirming yo uhave seen the NDA, which breaks the NDA!

[jonts26]

There is a super secret beta test forum you could talk about these things though?

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of super secret forums, new card expansions, or in person meet and greets with open bars and world class chefs and bouncy castles.

[Ozle]

There is a super secret beta test forum you could talk about these things though?

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of super secret forums, new card expansions, or in person meet and greets with open bars and world class chefs and bouncy castles.

Can you at least confirm my suspicions that 95% of all Dominion players in the beta test have a beard? Or at least some variant of facial hair?

[Thisisnotasmile]

There is a super secret beta test forum you could talk about these things though?

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of super secret forums, new card expansions, or in person meet and greets with open bars and world class chefs and bouncy castles.

Can you at least confirm my suspicions that 95% of all Dominion players in the beta test have a beard? Or at least some variant of facial hair?

I hope there are no variants in FS . I like my Dominion by the rule book.

[Kirian]

It is unrelated to our signup, because we are only releasing our list to them today.

Awwww.  Although I guess there are a number of people who have written articles etc. that aren't going to be in those first slots then from the forum then.

[WanderingWinder]

There is a super secret beta test forum you could talk about these things though?

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of super secret forums, new card expansions, or in person meet and greets with open bars and world class chefs and bouncy castles.

Can you at least confirm my suspicions that 95% of all Dominion players in the beta test have a beard? Or at least some variant of facial hair?

I can neither confirm nor deny that beards are, in fact, facial hair.

[Donald X.]

I've played a bunch! I haven't been inactive! I've seen you there Donald!

And I have seen you. You managed to beat my strategy of topping the leaderboard by actually playing games, by playing more games.

[Thisisnotasmile]

THERE IS A LEADERBOARD!

[WanderingWinder]

THERE IS A LEADERBOARD!

Moreover, you can get to the top by playing a lot.


I love/hate this fact!

[theory]

I asked Trisha, and she asked that we not talk about it too much on this forum, because they are still trying to control the flow of information.  (For example: NEW DOMINION ONLINE SUX BECAUSE IT DOESN'T [xxx].  FS fixes [xxx].  Someone googling for online Dominion finds [xxx] and concludes that online Dominion sucks.)

That having been said, since most of this forum will be beta testing it soon anyway, it will soon be unrealistic to have a communications blackout on this forum, especially as the site matures.  So it's not infinite.

[theory]

Currently the leaderboard is basically blank because most accounts have played no games.  So let's not jump to conclusions about how their skill model works, because I am pretty sure that for any skill model, winning 1 game should rank you higher than winning 0 games

[jonts26]

THERE IS A LEADERBOARD!

Moreover, you can get to the top by playing a lot.


I love/hate this fact!

If this is the case, I expect WW to top the leaderboard about 3 hours after he's invited to beta.

[Insomniac]

THERE IS A LEADERBOARD!

Moreover, you can get to the top by playing a lot.


I love/hate this fact!

If this is the case, I expect WW to top the leaderboard about 3 hours after he's invited to beta.

3?

[WanderingWinder]

THERE IS A LEADERBOARD!

Moreover, you can get to the top by playing a lot.


I love/hate this fact!

If this is the case, I expect WW to top the leaderboard about 3 hours after he's invited to beta.

And I expect you all to blackball me
The love/hate comment is because it means I get to the top by playing a lot, which means I have  decently good chance to play a lot, but it also gives me an incentive to have no life play a lot.
Overall, I think systems rewarding quantity over quality of play are sub-optimal, but I'm going to assume the thing isn't near finalized. Also, I have no idea whatsoever about how it actually works. So you can assume most of what I say about it at this point is a joke.

[Donald X.]

I asked Trisha, and she asked that we not talk about it too much on this forum, because they are still trying to control the flow of information.  (For example: NEW DOMINION ONLINE SUX BECAUSE IT DOESN'T [xxx].  FS fixes [xxx].  Someone googling for online Dominion finds [xxx] and concludes that online Dominion sucks.)

That having been said, since most of this forum will be beta testing it soon anyway, it will soon be unrealistic to have a communications blackout on this forum, especially as the site matures.  So it's not infinite.

Make this subforum only visible to members, not to guests. Bam.

[Donald X.]

THERE IS A LEADERBOARD!

Moreover, you can get to the top by playing a lot.


I love/hate this fact!

The bots are ranked, that's the trick. So, no-one's on, play against the bot, beat it, advance. The bot was initially randomly given a rating of 20. Now it has lost enough that it's not visible, because the leaderboard doesn't scroll. I got my games in when beating the bot meant something.

[theory]

I asked Trisha, and she asked that we not talk about it too much on this forum, because they are still trying to control the flow of information.  (For example: NEW DOMINION ONLINE SUX BECAUSE IT DOESN'T [xxx].  FS fixes [xxx].  Someone googling for online Dominion finds [xxx] and concludes that online Dominion sucks.)

That having been said, since most of this forum will be beta testing it soon anyway, it will soon be unrealistic to have a communications blackout on this forum, especially as the site matures.  So it's not infinite.

Make this subforum only visible to members, not to guests. Bam.

I think Trisha's concern will still exist if it is viewable by anyone who has registered, but I asked.

I think it'd definitely be OK if the subforum is limited to those with beta invites ... but that means I have to add every single member to that subforum as beta testing grows ... 

[zxcvbn2]

In all fairness, it should have been fairly obvious there would be a leaderboard by looking at the funsockets homepage: http://www.funsockets.com/#/home

It is very exciting, nonetheless!

[Donald X.]

I think Trisha's concern will still exist if it is viewable by anyone who has registered, but I asked.

I think it'd definitely be OK if the subforum is limited to those with beta invites ... but that means I have to add every single member to that subforum as beta testing grows ... 

Make it only members with at least 20 posts.

[WanderingWinder]

THERE IS A LEADERBOARD!

Moreover, you can get to the top by playing a lot.


I love/hate this fact!

The bots are ranked, that's the trick. So, no-one's on, play against the bot, beat it, advance. The bot was initially randomly given a rating of 20. Now it has lost enough that it's not visible, because the leaderboard doesn't scroll. I got my games in when beating the bot meant something.

Ah. Makes sense.

[Dsell]

That having been said, since most of this forum will be beta testing it soon anyway, it will soon be unrealistic to have a communications blackout on this forum, especially as the site matures.  So it's not infinite.

I was on vacation when the beta went live on the front page and the initial signups were made. I assumed I'd missed my chance because surely all the testers they'd need are signed up by now, but perhaps I'm wrong? I wouldn't be prioritized for any reason but I am still interested in testing and giving input if that's a possibility. Is it still worth it for someone like me, a middle-level player and frequent poster on the forum, to sign up?

[theory]

Yes.

[Kirian]

Make this subforum only visible to members, not to guests. Bam.

I think Trisha's concern will still exist if it is viewable by anyone who has registered, but I asked.

I think that her concern shouldn't exist for that situation.  The question is one of whether the posts can be found by a spider.  If they can, that's bad.  If they can't, who cares?  One might suggest that one of their aims ought to be to impress people on this board, which ought to encourage discussion here; making the forum viewable only by members will hide it from the public while keeping open discussion here.

In fact, I'd strongly suggest they should have a forum for discussion among beta testers, whether it's here or elsewhere.

Consider:  If you toss "Dominion Forum Mafia" into Google, you get the "discussion of Mafia discussion" thread, and a bunch of random posts where people mention the Mafia games, but no posts from the Mafia subforum.  The beta discussion would be instantly non-public.

[theory]

I created such a forum.

rrenaud has submitted our signup list.  Many of you should expect to start receiving invites soon.

[Insomniac]

It's been a week since the last invites went out! Hoping there is more today *fingers crossed*

[jsh357]

I'm in!  Guess not all the invites had gone out.

[Elysium]

How are the invites being decided past the people who contributed articles?  Postcount?  Respect?  I might have some work to do despite being a registered member for over a year...

[Captain_Frisk]

How are the invites being decided past the people who contributed articles?  Postcount?  Respect?  I might have some work to do despite being a registered member for over a year...

I believe it was first come first served after the original "rewards"

[Elysium]

I believe it was first come first served after the original "rewards"

Hmm, I signed up on the first day I think.  Not sure how many hours after it went live.  Guess I'll just keep my fingers crossed.

[eHalcyon]

How are the invites being decided past the people who contributed articles?  Postcount?  Respect?  I might have some work to do despite being a registered member for over a year...

I believe it was first come first served after the original "rewards"

Rewards?

FWIW I got into the beta without contributing any articles or such.  I don't think I signed up until a week after the form went live.  I do post a lot though.

[Insomniac]

How are the invites being decided past the people who contributed articles?  Postcount?  Respect?  I might have some work to do despite being a registered member for over a year...

I believe it was first come first served after the original "rewards"

Rewards?

FWIW I got into the beta without contributing any articles or such.  I don't think I signed up until a week after the form went live.  I do post a lot though.

I think he means that some precedence was being given to active forum members & front page article contributors, but if I recall those were going out WITH order of sign up as well, if you waited a week I think you got in based on activity.

[Captain_Frisk]

I think he means that some precedence was being given to active forum members & front page article contributors, but if I recall those were going out WITH order of sign up as well, if you waited a week I think you got in based on activity.

Correct - if I understand it correctly - there were about ~20 people who met the "reward" criteria (code contributions, articles, etc.).  The rest were first come / first served.  Theory would need to weigh in on the exact ordering of the list, and then people with access would need to roleclaim in order to figure out how far down the list we currently are.

[Insomniac]

I was 51 on the submitted list

[Captain_Frisk]

I was 51 on the submitted list

Liar - I was 51! Vote: Insomniac-X

[Insomniac]

I was 51 on the submitted list

Liar - I was 51! Vote: Insomniac-X

Please you were like second probably, you have HOW many articles on the FP?

Lynch all counterclaims
Vote: Captain_Frisk

[thespaceinvader]

OK, colour me just slightly paranoid, maybe, but I got an email today which claimed to be inviting me to the Dominion online beta - but I don't remotely recognise the site it's directing me to, and it's not what I expected it would be based on this forum.  Can someone confirm, please, by PM if necessary, that I'm looking at the right invitation and not going to get my identity stolen or whatever if I visit this site?  I can't find any mention of it on google, or on this site, which makes me a little nervy.  I'm eager to participate, but not if it's not the right thing.

[Captain_Frisk]

It's all about goko.

[thespaceinvader]

To the Internet!

[Ozle]

It goes to Goko.com or something

[Kirian]

OK, colour me just slightly paranoid, maybe, but I got an email today which claimed to be inviting me to the Dominion online beta - but I don't remotely recognise the site it's directing me to, and it's not what I expected it would be based on this forum.  Can someone confirm, please, by PM if necessary, that I'm looking at the right invitation and not going to get my identity stolen or whatever if I visit this site?  I can't find any mention of it on google, or on this site, which makes me a little nervy.  I'm eager to participate, but not if it's not the right thing.

Seems to me like this is too small for a phishing expedition, but FunSockets and Goko are the same people with two different company names.  If you can explain to me why a company with no actual product already needs two DBAs, go ahead and let me know.  But if the email came from Goko, it's safe.

[thespaceinvader]

To forestall further PMs, thanks, I got on now.  It's very... animated.  I like it, but it's a huge change from Iso, and it'll take some getting used to.

[yuma]

To forestall further PMs, thanks, I got on now.  It's very... animated.  I like it, but it's a huge change from Iso, and it'll take some getting used to.

I take it you are able to access everything in it? I am jealous. Got my invite yesterday but can't do anything with it.

[Donald X.]

Seems to me like this is too small for a phishing expedition, but FunSockets and Goko are the same people with two different company names.  If you can explain to me why a company with no actual product already needs two DBAs, go ahead and let me know.  But if the email came from Goko, it's safe.

I have no inside information here, but, "funsockets," doesn't that sound, kind of, uh, not well-thought-out? Funsockets. Anyway that's my guess as to why now it's goko, a safe nonsense term.

[Tables]

Donald: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg63253#msg63253

The beta is fun and all, but remember the reason you signed up, you're a beta tester. Go have fun, but make sure to feed back so the final version can be better (and make the feedback spreadsheet even bigger, it's already at just short of 200 entries ^.^)

[Kirian]

Donald: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg63253#msg63253

The beta is fun and all, but remember the reason you signed up, you're a beta tester. Go have fun, but make sure to feed back so the final version can be better (and make the feedback spreadsheet even bigger, it's already at just short of 200 entries ^.^)

Whoa, where is this spreadsheet??

[How Bazaar]

Haven't been able to submit feedback as the page to do so wasn't working, but so far my feedback would be that the site needs a reconnect feature.  Most of my dominion playing is over a fickle cell network via tether.  If the connection drops you effectively quit the game.  You can't reload and resume.  Isotropic let you reconnect if this happened.

[Insomniac]

Haven't been able to submit feedback as the page to do so wasn't working, but so far my feedback would be that the site needs a reconnect feature.  Most of my dominion playing is over a fickle cell network via tether.  If the connection drops you effectively quit the game.  You can't reload and resume.  Isotropic let you reconnect if this happened.

This was already reported...by me

[How Bazaar]

Haven't been able to submit feedback as the page to do so wasn't working, but so far my feedback would be that the site needs a reconnect feature.  Most of my dominion playing is over a fickle cell network via tether.  If the connection drops you effectively quit the game.  You can't reload and resume.  Isotropic let you reconnect if this happened.

This was already reported...by me

Okay...thanks

[Rhombus]

Accepted!  Awwwww yeah

[pauley_walnuts]

I'm trying to leave feedback, but it directs me to a forum with no topics. Is this right, or is the feedback section for the app down or something?

[DStu]

I'm trying to leave feedback, but it directs me to a forum with no topics. Is this right, or is the feedback section for the app down or something?

Have you registered at this forum?

[clb]

You have to register seperately for the forum, and receive administrator permission, before being able to post.

(ninja'ed)

[pauley_walnuts]

I'm trying to leave feedback, but it directs me to a forum with no topics. Is this right, or is the feedback section for the app down or something?

Have you registered at this forum?

Yes, I've registered and gotten approval. Let me check again.

[pauley_walnuts]

Oh wait, nevermind. I see all the topics now. 'doh!

[sffc]

I was just wondering, are players still being accepted into beta testing?  I signed up using the Google Form on the first day and am eager to give feedback, but I haven't received any notifications.  (I'm just asking; I'm don't mean to be pushy.  In fact, this question might be a good addition to the Forum FAQ.  )

[andwilk]

I was also wondering this. I have applied twice for a beta invite.  Once when it was first released and again a few days ago.  I thought I had read somewhere that invites were going to be handed out based on activity in the forums, but I thought I had seen some people with low activity level that have beta invites.  Am I missing something?

[Grujah]

I am not supposed to reveal this..

But if you win in any mafia game in Forum Games, you get an invite.

[greatexpectations]

I was just wondering, are players still being accepted into beta testing?  I signed up using the Google Form on the first day and am eager to give feedback, but I haven't received any notifications.  (I'm just asking; I'm don't mean to be pushy.  In fact, this question might be a good addition to the Forum FAQ.  )

if we can get any kind of answer from theory or someone i can add it.  i don't just want to put speculation up there.

[theory]

AFAIK, Trisha is still going down the big list of people (there were ~1000 signups).  I'll ask her for an update.

[sherwinpr]

Your sign up may have not gone through.  I signed up on the first day, then asked Trisha, and she told me she didn't see me on the list.  I probably forgot to hit a submit button on the form, or something like that.

[eHalcyon]

I feel bad because I have an invite but have not been testing.  I played like three or four games on the day I was invited, posted a few thoughts in the forum, and I haven't been back since.  OTOH, I haven't been playing isotropic either.

Remember to check your junk mail folder.

[jotheonah]

I'm right with you eHal. But it was so glitchy. I like never finished a game (because it always crashed/I got booted). Has it gotten better?

[theory]

Yeah.

[timchen]

Is it too late to sign up for the beta?