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Card Idea: Almoner
« on: June 06, 2012, 08:10:56 am »
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Almoner
Type: Action
Cost: $2

+1 Card
+1 Action
You may gain a Copper, putting it into your hand.


I sort of like this card as a downgraded Peddler. Gaining a Copper will hurt many decks, especially engines.

Is it too boring? My other concern is that it might be too powerful in Gardens games. On the other hand, you would require a +Buy to get a bunch of these anyway, unless you want to spend all your money on one.

EDIT: Changed name of card from Flower Seller to Almoner
« Last Edit: June 08, 2012, 07:39:03 am by Schneau »
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 12:29:11 pm »
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I like it a lot, actually, although I would rename it "Florist." I'm a big fan of Market-like cards, and also of Copper interactions. I also think it's rather appropriate how this combos with Spice Merchant. For a card that increases your hand size by one, though, it might be under-priced.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 01:33:38 pm »
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Good card imo.  Fun Spice Merchant and Moneylender interaction.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 01:52:40 pm »
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I approve of anything that might someday potentially make Counting House useful.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 02:54:11 pm »
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Might need to be 3$, but really the difference between the two price levels is minimal so I doubt it.

Awesome idea!
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 03:32:05 pm »
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I think I might steal the spirit of it to help rework Brothel in my set.  You mind?
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 03:34:04 pm »
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I like this. It's elegant simplicity reminds me of Duchess, a card that is much more interesting than I first thought.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 04:02:05 pm »
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I like this. It's elegant simplicity reminds me of Duchess, a card that is much more interesting than I first thought.
While still not being all that interesting.


I also quite like florist, though $2 might just be a bit cheap for it. Or maybe not.

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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2012, 04:21:05 pm »
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I like this. It's elegant simplicity reminds me of Duchess, a card that is much more interesting than I first thought.
While still not being all that interesting.

But look at all the great Duchess fun I just had: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201206/06/game-20120606-131953-530042b4.html
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2012, 04:46:58 pm »
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I like it. $2 seems fine to me. Since it's not good for spamming in engines, there's no concern of it being too cheap to grab with extra buys.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2012, 09:41:21 am »
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Glad everyone likes it! My goal was to create a $2 cantrip with a small bonus, in the vein of Hamlet and Pearl Diver. I thought about naming it Florist, and still might, but to me Florist sounds like a modern store that sells flowers while Flower Seller sounds like someone selling flowers on the street.

I'm thinking $2 will probably work. At $3, I doubt it would frequently be chosen over Oasis, and to me seems pretty inferior. Since there would rarely be a reason to want to stockpile these (besides Gardens), I think $2 is probably reasonable.

As mentioned, beyond Gardens I could see this interacting well with Moneylender, Spice Merchant, and Counting House. It could also be a late game small boost if you have an extra buy, since the downside of an extra Copper won't hurt so much.


I think I might steal the spirit of it to help rework Brothel in my set.  You mind?

That's fine, as long as it's not too similar, since I might eventually get around to putting together a set that might include this.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2012, 03:55:58 pm »
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'Florist' does sound kind of modern but "Flower Sellar" sounds clumsy. "Flower Girl"?
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2012, 04:13:20 pm »
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Yeah, I don't love the name "Flower Seller." It just doesn't flow right. Though I understand Florist is too modern.

How about Flower Merchant? Or Tulip Merchant, even? That was a real thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2012, 04:36:31 pm »
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I don't understand why the name of this is Flower Seller at all. Shouldn't a name like that be on a card that gives +buy?
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2012, 04:39:19 pm »
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I don't understand why the name of this is Flower Seller at all. Shouldn't a name like that be on a card that gives +buy?

I think it's supposed to be like a more lowly peddler.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2012, 04:48:20 pm »
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I don't understand why the name of this is Flower Seller at all. Shouldn't a name like that be on a card that gives +buy?

I think it's supposed to be like a more lowly peddler.

...Yeah, but it sounds like a kind of herbalist.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2012, 05:11:07 pm »
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"Flower Peddler" seems appropriate.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2012, 06:32:52 pm »
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In keeping with the idea of someone who produces something of small value (gain a copper) and travels (+1card +1action gives that sense), I'd suggest the following name ideas based on actual medieval occupations:

Eggler – An egg dealer, sometimes itinerant
Ragpicker - one who collects rags and refuse for a livelihood
Almoner - a distributer of money and food to the poor

When looking for Medieval occupations, here are a couple of useful lists:
http://arcana.wikidot.com/list-of-medieval-european-professions
http://www.svincent.com/CrystalObelisk/Economics/MedievalOccupations.html
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2012, 07:29:15 pm »
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Ooh, I like "almoner" a lot.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2012, 07:33:00 pm »
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I think "almsgiver" is slightly more accessible.  Not sure.  I know what alms are but I didn't make the connection with almoner until I read its definition. :)
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2012, 07:40:31 pm »
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Yeah, you should go with "Almsgiver." Or even just, "Alms."
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2012, 08:01:56 pm »
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Yeah, you should go with "Almsgiver." Or even just, "Alms."

Ugh, there are so many fan cards named 'Alms'. I prefer 'Florist' or maybe 'Boutique'.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2012, 12:50:38 am »
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Cool concept.  Pretty powerful card in a lot of situations, gaining to hand is super strong.
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Re: Card Idea: Flower Seller
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2012, 07:38:18 am »
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Haha, I can't believe how much discussion there is about the name of this card, but a huge thanks for the suggestions :) I think I'll go with Almoner - Thanks Thanar!
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Re: Card Idea: Almoner
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2012, 09:21:52 am »
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I've always heard the street selling flower folks called "Flower Vendors". There's a classic painting by Diego Rivera titled as such.
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