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Author Topic: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (GAME OVER - MAFIA WINS!)  (Read 330630 times)

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Grujah

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I want to clarify 2 more things:
What happends if 2 persons target to kill each other? (Vigilante and Witch for example?)
Also if A kills B and B kills C?

more general:
only 1 mafia actually does the actual kill, and mafia need to choose that killer, right?
So you need to block that specific mafia player to stop the kill, right?
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Galzria

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To your second question: yes. You must stop that member.

Not sure on your first, but I think they happen simultaneously, so they all die.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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thinking about it... keep saying I'm just gonna spectate the next one.
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thinking about it... keep saying I'm just gonna spectate the next one.

You should play!
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I want to clarify 2 more things:
What happends if 2 persons target to kill each other? (Vigilante and Witch for example?)
Also if A kills B and B kills C?

Kills happen simultaneously.  Or, more accurately, getting killed during the night doesn't stop you from using your night ability.  So if, say, a Militiaman and a Witch target each other, they both die (or, if the Witch chose One-Shot Bulletproof, the Militiaman dies and the Witch's Bulletproof is used up).

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more general:
only 1 mafia actually does the actual kill, and mafia need to choose that killer, right?
So you need to block that specific mafia player to stop the kill, right?

This is correct.  The killer could be any member of the Mafia.  Note, though, that if the Mafia Thief does the kill, he can't simultaneously use his roleblock ability.
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So I'd like to play, but Glooble and I are RL acquaintances. We don't live in the same place but we talk often. We can make a pact not to talk about the game, but I totally understand if the existence of such a relationship would be troubling to other players, and I would have no hard feelings about sitting out.
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So I'd like to play, but Glooble and I are RL acquaintances. We don't live in the same place but we talk often. We can make a pact not to talk about the game, but I totally understand if the existence of such a relationship would be troubling to other players, and I would have no hard feelings about sitting out.

As moderator, I don't have a problem with this.  It doesn't seem any more of an issue than players' ability to PM each other through the forum.  We're all making an implicit pact not to use those PMs to talk to each other about the game (unless explicitly authorized by the game rules).  I don't see any reason such a pact can't extend to RL discussions as well.

Any signed-up players have an issue with this?

Assuming no objections come in, I anticipate sending role PMs out this evening (like around 11:00 p.m. or so EDT) and officially launching the game/starting the Day 1 clock at midnight. 
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I have no problem with it. We have to assume each other's best intentions.
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I have no objections, as Volt points out we're all basically agreeing to not cheat by PMing except when allowed. You guys would make a strong mafia pair though as you could talk in real life.

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No problems. Would be glad to have you J.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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So I'd like to play, but Glooble and I are RL acquaintances. We don't live in the same place but we talk often. We can make a pact not to talk about the game, but I totally understand if the existence of such a relationship would be troubling to other players, and I would have no hard feelings about sitting out.

Yeah, just don't talk about the game.  I've done it, it's not that hard.
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Can you publicly claim that you are Mason?
I mean, Masons should keep their society secret and stuff.  ;D
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POTENTIAL 13th PLAYER:

I am intrigued with the notion of playing, but I've never played before, and have only read parts of M III. I'm not interested in reading any of M I or MII, as the proposed 2 week interval between deadlines would seem to guarantee that more reading will be required for M IV than any of the previous iterations.  Given all that, would I be welcome, and more importantly, would I be an asset to the game?
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@Voltgloss: Can I request that the mafia and potential masons be created a quicktopic for their discussion? This will allow people to look at their discussion after the game is over and might make it more interesting for after game discussion
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Yes SFS.  You're one of my favorite f.ds posters.
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POTENTIAL 13th PLAYER:

I am intrigued with the notion of playing, but I've never played before, and have only read parts of M III. I'm not interested in reading any of M I or MII, as the proposed 2 week interval between deadlines would seem to guarantee that more reading will be required for M IV than any of the previous iterations.  Given all that, would I be welcome, and more importantly, would I be an asset to the game?
I think MI and MII both had 2 week deadlines (MII definitely did), but those were never reached.  And yes, we'd love to have you in the game.  Just have your build orders ready before the game starts :)
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I changed my mind.  We're not letting you in unless you read MI and MII, read all of my councilroom logs for games in which I purchase a Gardens, and watch twelve Zerg fast expand replays.

Then you can play.
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I have a fan club???

And how did you know I play Zerg?
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You ask too many questions.
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I changed my mind.  We're not letting you in unless you read MI and MII, read all of my councilroom logs for games in which I purchase a Gardens, and watch twelve Zerg fast expand replays.

Then you can play.
If I've counted correctly, you've bought a Gardens in 133 games.  109 would have been my limit.

What now?

Also, for what it's worth, if I play, I (sort of) promise not to use emoticons.  Maybe.
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You ask too many questions.

Ah, so I'm well suited to be an investigator.
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You shouldn't be counting the losses.  Or acknowledging they exist.  It should go without saying.

Hey who upvoted me somewhere on the forums while I was at exactly 100 respect?
« Last Edit: June 03, 2012, 04:17:23 pm by popsofctown »
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You shouldn't be counting the losses.  Or acknowledging they exist.  It should go without saying.

Hey who upvoted me somewhere on the forums while I was at exactly 100 respect?
Don't worry, I'll find somewhere I upvoted you and remove it :P

edit: and done! :Evil face:
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Hi! I haven't posted here much but I'm around these forums a lot, and have been enjoying watching the other Mafia games go through. Assuming someone more deserving doesn't want the space I'd like to play!
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It's up to Volt but I would be fine including all these people even in excess of 13, and then just adjusting number of roles and mafia accordingly. But whatever Volt wants is totally acceptable.
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