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ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« on: May 25, 2012, 04:54:09 pm »
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I can't stop refreshing it - it puts up a new card every time!  -bounces around-

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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 05:09:58 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 05:26:25 pm »
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Cool picture, but they misspelled "Apple" on the top of that weird tablet.
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 05:30:09 pm »
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Cool picture, but they misspelled "Apple" on the top of that weird tablet.

Oddly, I don't think that's a tablet anyway.  It's like a weirdly-stretched phone...
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 05:30:23 pm »
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 05:42:42 pm »
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Hmm... the Lookout on the website has a little Base castle in the corner instead of a Seaside anchor...
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 05:47:51 pm »
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Can't....Stop....Refreshing....
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2012, 05:48:01 pm »
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Hmm... the Lookout on the website has a little Base castle in the corner instead of a Seaside anchor...

The directory with the images. Lookout, Masquerade, Pirate Ship all have the wrong expansion icon, too. The text at the bottom of duration cards is a bit messed-up too. Hopefully these aren't final graphics.
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 06:35:25 pm »
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Reading the ToS, I'm a little worried about a couple things. First off logs. Now, I'm going to guess that having logs is going to be fine, and that sharing them everywhere is also good by them, but... man, I'd love for them to make that clear.
More of a concern, though, is videos, which appear pretty clearly prohibited to me. We may see the end pretty soon...

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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2012, 06:43:42 pm »
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Reading the ToS, I'm a little worried about a couple things. First off logs. Now, I'm going to guess that having logs is going to be fine, and that sharing them everywhere is also good by them, but... man, I'd love for them to make that clear.
More of a concern, though, is videos, which appear pretty clearly prohibited to me. We may see the end pretty soon...

I would be very, very surprised if both:
  • They want to ban gameplay videos for some reason.
  • AND it's actually legally possible to ban gameplay videos.
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2012, 06:52:26 pm »
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Hmm... the Lookout on the website has a little Base castle in the corner instead of a Seaside anchor...

The directory with the images. Lookout, Masquerade, Pirate Ship all have the wrong expansion icon, too. The text at the bottom of duration cards is a bit messed-up too. Hopefully these aren't final graphics.

As a web developer, I find it a little unprofessional that A) They allow directory browsing on a public-facing site, and B) The images are named "card1.png" etc, instead of something descriptive of what the card is.
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2012, 06:52:43 pm »
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Reading the ToS, I'm a little worried about a couple things. First off logs. Now, I'm going to guess that having logs is going to be fine, and that sharing them everywhere is also good by them, but... man, I'd love for them to make that clear.
More of a concern, though, is videos, which appear pretty clearly prohibited to me. We may see the end pretty soon...

I would be very, very surprised if both:
  • They want to ban gameplay videos for some reason.
  • AND it's actually legally possible to ban gameplay videos.

Well, Donald X is known to prowl these forums, so we may have an answer to that soon...
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2012, 06:56:01 pm »
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Reading the ToS, I'm a little worried about a couple things. First off logs. Now, I'm going to guess that having logs is going to be fine, and that sharing them everywhere is also good by them, but... man, I'd love for them to make that clear.
More of a concern, though, is videos, which appear pretty clearly prohibited to me. We may see the end pretty soon...

I would be very, very surprised if both:
  • They want to ban gameplay videos for some reason.
  • AND it's actually legally possible to ban gameplay videos.
I'm pretty sure they can ban me from making videos of their product. Major League Baseball does it. On the other hand, there's a good chance I could get 'express-written consent (never implied oral consent!)' and then be ok, so long as I agreed to not profit off of it. Probably. Hey, theory's a lawyer, he'd know.

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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2012, 07:07:38 pm »
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Reading the ToS, I'm a little worried about a couple things. First off logs. Now, I'm going to guess that having logs is going to be fine, and that sharing them everywhere is also good by them, but... man, I'd love for them to make that clear.
More of a concern, though, is videos, which appear pretty clearly prohibited to me. We may see the end pretty soon...

I would be very, very surprised if both:
  • They want to ban gameplay videos for some reason.
  • AND it's actually legally possible to ban gameplay videos.
I'm pretty sure they can ban me from making videos of their product. Major League Baseball does it. On the other hand, there's a good chance I could get 'express-written consent (never implied oral consent!)' and then be ok, so long as I agreed to not profit off of it. Probably. Hey, theory's a lawyer, he'd know.

This would be more like a baseball manufacturer banning people taking videos of themselves playing baseball.
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2012, 07:10:29 pm »
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Hmm... the Lookout on the website has a little Base castle in the corner instead of a Seaside anchor...

The directory with the images. Lookout, Masquerade, Pirate Ship all have the wrong expansion icon, too. The text at the bottom of duration cards is a bit messed-up too. Hopefully these aren't final graphics.

As a web developer, I find it a little unprofessional that A) They allow directory browsing on a public-facing site, and B) The images are named "card1.png" etc, instead of something descriptive of what the card is.

Yeah, this looks super professional as well... http://playdominion.com/js/script.js
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2012, 07:12:33 pm »
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Hmm... the Lookout on the website has a little Base castle in the corner instead of a Seaside anchor...

The directory with the images. Lookout, Masquerade, Pirate Ship all have the wrong expansion icon, too. The text at the bottom of duration cards is a bit messed-up too. Hopefully these aren't final graphics.

As a web developer, I find it a little unprofessional that A) They allow directory browsing on a public-facing site, and B) The images are named "card1.png" etc, instead of something descriptive of what the card is.

Yeah, this looks super professional as well... http://playdominion.com/js/script.js

...what's wrong with it?
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2012, 07:15:13 pm »
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Hmm... the Lookout on the website has a little Base castle in the corner instead of a Seaside anchor...

The directory with the images. Lookout, Masquerade, Pirate Ship all have the wrong expansion icon, too. The text at the bottom of duration cards is a bit messed-up too. Hopefully these aren't final graphics.

As a web developer, I find it a little unprofessional that A) They allow directory browsing on a public-facing site, and B) The images are named "card1.png" etc, instead of something descriptive of what the card is.

Yeah, this looks super professional as well... http://playdominion.com/js/script.js

...what's wrong with it?

a. that they would need to reference stack overflow to generate a random number
b. that this kind of stuff is present in public-facing code
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2012, 07:17:38 pm »
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Reading the ToS, I'm a little worried about a couple things. First off logs. Now, I'm going to guess that having logs is going to be fine, and that sharing them everywhere is also good by them, but... man, I'd love for them to make that clear.
More of a concern, though, is videos, which appear pretty clearly prohibited to me. We may see the end pretty soon...

I would be very, very surprised if both:
  • They want to ban gameplay videos for some reason.
  • AND it's actually legally possible to ban gameplay videos.
I'm pretty sure they can ban me from making videos of their product. Major League Baseball does it. On the other hand, there's a good chance I could get 'express-written consent (never implied oral consent!)' and then be ok, so long as I agreed to not profit off of it. Probably. Hey, theory's a lawyer, he'd know.

Pretty sure if this was legal, game companies would have used it against reviewers long ago.
However, while I don't think they can ban you from making movies, they probably can ban your account FOR making movies.
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2012, 07:35:41 pm »
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Quote from: The Site's ToS
...you may not copy, modify, translate, distribute, transmit, publish, republish, perform, display, post, download, upload, frame, make available, lend, hire, communicate to the public, adapt, or sell the FunSockets Content or any portion thereof.
Now, I'm not sure, but this looks to me like it would stop videos. I mean, post it, anyway. Maybe not record it. But somehow YouTubing the stuff seems like it would be distributing, transmitting, publishing, repubishing, displaying, posting, uploading, making available, something that is a portion of their content. Certainly communicating it to the public.

I especially think that it looks to apply due to:

Quote from: The Site's ToS
With the exception of third party materials and user-generated materials as addressed below, all content available through the Service, including without limitation text, photographs, images, graphics, designs, audio, video, games, applications, software, and files ("FunSockets Content") is the proprietary content and property of, and is solely owned by, the Company.
Now clearly, the videos are user-generated, but they're using the site's stuff. So I don't think they'd qualify for this exception. Especially as if you read the pertinent part 'below' where they 'address' it, it seems to just refer to things that you post to their site, not stuff which in any way originates from it.

Quote from: The Site's ToS
You may use the Service solely for your personal, noncommercial use.
This is a little bit that way too, but very clearly against any commercial gains of someone. Such as, like, (oh my, I sound like Ms. Teen South Carolina...), monetizing a youtube account these were posted on. I know people DO stuff like this all the time, but I'm very conscious NOT to.

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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2012, 07:46:06 pm »
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Quote from: The Site's ToS
...you may not copy, modify, translate, distribute, transmit, publish, republish, perform, display, post, download, upload, frame, make available, lend, hire, communicate to the public, adapt, or sell the FunSockets Content or any portion thereof.
Now, I'm not sure, but this looks to me like it would stop videos. I mean, post it, anyway. Maybe not record it. But somehow YouTubing the stuff seems like it would be distributing, transmitting, publishing, repubishing, displaying, posting, uploading, making available, something that is a portion of their content. Certainly communicating it to the public.

I especially think that it looks to apply due to:

Quote from: The Site's ToS
With the exception of third party materials and user-generated materials as addressed below, all content available through the Service, including without limitation text, photographs, images, graphics, designs, audio, video, games, applications, software, and files ("FunSockets Content") is the proprietary content and property of, and is solely owned by, the Company.
Now clearly, the videos are user-generated, but they're using the site's stuff. So I don't think they'd qualify for this exception. Especially as if you read the pertinent part 'below' where they 'address' it, it seems to just refer to things that you post to their site, not stuff which in any way originates from it.

Quote from: The Site's ToS
You may use the Service solely for your personal, noncommercial use.
This is a little bit that way too, but very clearly against any commercial gains of someone. Such as, like, (oh my, I sound like Ms. Teen South Carolina...), monetizing a youtube account these were posted on. I know people DO stuff like this all the time, but I'm very conscious NOT to.

Yeah, I agree it most likely would violate the ToS, and they could ban you for that.
However, until the content companies manage to ram some of their bought-and-paid for legislation through, violating the ToS is not against the law and I don't believe posting gameplay videos would violate copyright.

EDIT: of course this is just speculation... the ToS look pretty boilerplate to me, and I don't see what possible reason they would have to want to prevent publishing gameplay videos.
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 08:49:57 pm »
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Quote from: The Site's ToS
...you may not copy, modify, translate, distribute, transmit, publish, republish, perform, display, post, download, upload, frame, make available, lend, hire, communicate to the public, adapt, or sell the FunSockets Content or any portion thereof.
Now, I'm not sure, but this looks to me like it would stop videos. I mean, post it, anyway. Maybe not record it. But somehow YouTubing the stuff seems like it would be distributing, transmitting, publishing, repubishing, displaying, posting, uploading, making available, something that is a portion of their content. Certainly communicating it to the public.

I especially think that it looks to apply due to:

Quote from: The Site's ToS
With the exception of third party materials and user-generated materials as addressed below, all content available through the Service, including without limitation text, photographs, images, graphics, designs, audio, video, games, applications, software, and files ("FunSockets Content") is the proprietary content and property of, and is solely owned by, the Company.
Now clearly, the videos are user-generated, but they're using the site's stuff. So I don't think they'd qualify for this exception. Especially as if you read the pertinent part 'below' where they 'address' it, it seems to just refer to things that you post to their site, not stuff which in any way originates from it.

Quote from: The Site's ToS
You may use the Service solely for your personal, noncommercial use.
This is a little bit that way too, but very clearly against any commercial gains of someone. Such as, like, (oh my, I sound like Ms. Teen South Carolina...), monetizing a youtube account these were posted on. I know people DO stuff like this all the time, but I'm very conscious NOT to.

I think they'd be pretty stupid to take action against you for posting videos, even if it's just to ban your account with them. You'd basically be providing free advertising, making people more interested in their site, and by banning you they'd surely lose the support of some of the most important members of the community. Many video games (StarCraft II comes to mind, but I'm sure there are many others) have tons of commentary on YouTube, which I'm sure they love because it both brings in new people and keeps members more invested. So, I really doubt they'd do anything for posting videos, unless their marketing team is pretty dull.
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Re: ZOMGZ The Dominion Online website is doing something!
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 09:47:14 pm »
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Well, Donald X is known to prowl these forums, so we may have an answer to that soon...
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2012, 10:48:56 pm »
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It is entirely possible that this is the ToS for the beta, rather than the ToS for the site overall.
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2012, 11:46:21 pm »
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…yet so addicting!

Has anyone gotten PhilStone? What are some other rare ones?
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This is so stupid…
…yet so addicting!

Has anyone gotten PhilStone? What are some other rare ones?
I got Phil Stone just a minute ago.
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