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GendoIkari

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No Treasure
« on: May 04, 2012, 11:09:15 am »
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This is going to be a more informal challenge; because I don't plan on doing a bunch and tracking points, etc. But hopefully people will still be interested in trying it out because it sounds like fun (to me at least. ;D)

1. End the game with 8 Provinces in your deck.
2. After turns 1 and 2, you may not play a Treasure card.
3. You must not have any Treasure in your deck at the end of the game.

Do this in as few turns as possible.

And since I just now realized that all the solutions for "No Buys Allowed" work here as well, we'll go ahead and throw on one more stipulation:

4. You cannot gain any cards other than by buying them.

Feel free to post your answers and thoughts here, since this is an informal puzzle.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 11:47:45 am »
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2. After turns 1 and 2, you may not play a Treasure card.
4. You cannot gain any cards other than by buying them.

These two restraints make it a bit difficult to get started.  Here is an extremely unoptimized attempt:
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-084611-ed76b645.html

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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 12:00:00 pm »
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My own thoughts (having not actually even tried this yet).


I think you have to start with 5/2 to have a good chance here. Open Mandarin / Festival. (And yes, to be completely technical, you have to have 5/2 and not 2/5 for this to work). From there; get a Chapel asap. Trash all Coppers and Estates when you can; buy a second Festival (or Conspirator maybe). At this point you can just start buying Grand Markets / King's Courts every turn, until you have enough to buy all the Provinces.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 12:17:05 pm »
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Unless I'm missing an obvious rule, this seems to be along the lines of the fastest way to meet the requirements:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-091617-4935035b.html
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 01:51:36 pm »
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Unless I'm missing an obvious rule, this seems to be along the lines of the fastest way to meet the requirements:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-091617-4935035b.html

Well done; I completely forgot about Horse Traders.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2012, 02:05:49 pm »
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Open Vault/Secret Chamber, then buy Hunting Parties and Grand Markets until you can start buying Provinces.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 02:20:17 pm »
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I thought about Baron, but I think tlloyd have the solution. Vault both has drawing power and gives the most +$.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2012, 04:09:44 pm »
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I thought about Baron, but I think tlloyd have the solution. Vault both has drawing power and gives the most +$.

I think dondon's solution above is going to be faster than tlloyd's.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2012, 09:30:10 pm »
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I'll post up my 11 turns on Sunday if nobody can get 10 before then. 10 is certainly possible.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2012, 12:24:05 am »
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I swapped out Secret Chamber for Chapel (duh!) and got there in 9 turns (ignoring the first four while I waited to draw $5 or $2): http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-212057-4e0bd7e3.html

By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2012, 02:34:16 am »
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By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
The probability of that happening is about 0.7%. Good job! :P
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2012, 09:10:53 am »
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By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

I just had 45 turns until drawing $5/$2. I'll post the log once Geronimoo's Governor's Ball solo challenge is finished.
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2012, 10:40:55 am »
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By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

I just had 45 turns until drawing $5/$2. I'll post the log once Geronimoo's Governor's Ball solo challenge is finished.

Hey! My feelings are hurt.  :'( ....  ;)
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2012, 11:01:26 am »
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By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

Did happen, no log. Unless Councilroom records solitaire games...
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2012, 11:08:07 am »
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By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

Did happen, no log. Unless Councilroom records solitaire games...

Funny, I've always resigned on turn one, then started a new game... It's relatively quick, but 1001 clicks. I never really considered just cycling my deck in one game until I hit the split I want.  :-\ :-\ :-\
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2012, 11:39:10 am »
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By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

Did happen, no log. Unless Councilroom records solitaire games...

Funny, I've always resigned on turn one, then started a new game... It's relatively quick, but 1001 clicks. I never really considered just cycling my deck in one game until I hit the split I want.  :-\ :-\ :-\
That is a good idea. I also just resign and wait for the split I want. And it takes FOREVER  >:( >:( >:(. I guess you could just tell the host to ignore the extra turns?
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2012, 09:06:12 am »
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Here is the 11 turns I promised. I managed to get 7 provinces on turn 10 with another attempt so that will be possible and probably 9 turns with best draws.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-085112-7fcd9e0a.html
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Re: No Treasure
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2012, 10:33:33 am »
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I also managed it in 10 turns.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/24/game-20120524-072914-5e3d312d.html

It occurred to me that Vault -> Grand Market -> King's Court had some nice possibilities.
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