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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #125 on: April 24, 2012, 01:37:22 pm »
+2

When I said everything barsooma said was reasonable, I was wrong.  I guess I skipped over what I thought was just bickering.

I didn't see the ad hominem stuff.  That's obviously stupid and trolling.

Care to give an example?
Everything I said that was at all insulting was in direct response to someone saying something at least as rude to me first.
And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?

How about this?
*Not exactly ad hominem but in the same spirit.

And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #126 on: April 24, 2012, 01:40:55 pm »
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When I said everything barsooma said was reasonable, I was wrong.  I guess I skipped over what I thought was just bickering.

I didn't see the ad hominem stuff.  That's obviously stupid and trolling.

Care to give an example?
Everything I said that was at all insulting was in direct response to someone saying something at least as rude to me first.
And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?

How about this?
*Not exactly ad hominem but in the same spirit.

And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?
Har har.
You're right, that's not ad hominem. Maybe this will help you figure it out: http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/2010/06/difference-between-ad-hominem-and.html
The real problem here is people who think their (poorly thought out, unsupported) opinions deserve respect simply because they are very good at playing a card game.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2012, 01:45:49 pm by barsooma »
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #127 on: April 24, 2012, 01:54:30 pm »
+1

When I said everything barsooma said was reasonable, I was wrong.  I guess I skipped over what I thought was just bickering.

I didn't see the ad hominem stuff.  That's obviously stupid and trolling.

Care to give an example?
Everything I said that was at all insulting was in direct response to someone saying something at least as rude to me first.
And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?

How about this?
*Not exactly ad hominem but in the same spirit.

And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?
Har har.
You're right, that's not ad hominem. Maybe this will help you figure it out: http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/2010/06/difference-between-ad-hominem-and.html
The real problem here is people who think their (poorly thought out, unsupported) opinions deserve respect simply because they are very good at playing a card game.

Hey I can passive aggressively link websites too!  http://www.bordeglobal.com/foruminv/index.php?showtopic=19899
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #128 on: April 24, 2012, 02:05:16 pm »
+6

... and I thought 5 6 posts ago I should look into this thread again ...
« Last Edit: April 24, 2012, 02:07:38 pm by DStu »
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #129 on: April 24, 2012, 02:08:17 pm »
+1

When I said everything barsooma said was reasonable, I was wrong.  I guess I skipped over what I thought was just bickering.

I didn't see the ad hominem stuff.  That's obviously stupid and trolling.

Care to give an example?
Everything I said that was at all insulting was in direct response to someone saying something at least as rude to me first.
And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?

How about this?
*Not exactly ad hominem but in the same spirit.

And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?
Har har.
You're right, that's not ad hominem. Maybe this will help you figure it out: http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/2010/06/difference-between-ad-hominem-and.html
The real problem here is people who think their (poorly thought out, unsupported) opinions deserve respect simply because they are very good at playing a card game.

Hey I can passive aggressively link websites too!  http://www.bordeglobal.com/foruminv/index.php?showtopic=19899
Barsooma's point is valid, even if he's being a dick about it. Rrenaud was (as I'm reading it) trying to distinguish between "just bickering" (which might be reasonable) and ad hominem (which is not). An example of ad hominem has not yet been produced as requested.
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #130 on: April 24, 2012, 02:15:09 pm »
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... and I thought 5 6 posts ago I should look into this thread again ...

Yep :(
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #131 on: April 24, 2012, 02:15:50 pm »
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I clearly stated that my example was NOT an example of ad hominem. Barsooma responded by acknowledging that I stated that and then proceeding to link that article after implying that I don't know the difference. In reality I was just making a joke, with perhaps a slightly insulting undertone myself.

As for actual ad hominem, I never stated that he made any, and really don't care to look over the entirety of the arguing from earlier in the thread to find out.
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #132 on: April 24, 2012, 02:30:58 pm »
+6

When I said everything barsooma said was reasonable, I was wrong.  I guess I skipped over what I thought was just bickering.

I didn't see the ad hominem stuff.  That's obviously stupid and trolling.

Care to give an example?
Everything I said that was at all insulting was in direct response to someone saying something at least as rude to me first.
And to all those who said that this thread was a waste of time because nothing would change: how do those words taste now?

You are right.  You didn't insult him until he called you a troll. 

From my point of view, you didn't actually start trolling until being called a troll.  That is epic.  You have won.
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #133 on: April 24, 2012, 05:04:57 pm »
+1

ITT people still pay attention to barsooma for some reason?

Good post man, +1
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #134 on: April 24, 2012, 10:27:37 pm »
+1

I propose we keep the forum bickering and cancer where it belongs.

The decline of civility on isotropic thread!

(Just kidding.. actually no, I'm not kidding).
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #135 on: April 25, 2012, 12:47:25 pm »
+2

Also, the constraints problem, where you basically couldn't put in constraints, seems to be fixed now.

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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #136 on: April 25, 2012, 02:20:10 pm »
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Also, the constraints problem, where you basically couldn't put in constraints, seems to be fixed now.
Where does DougZ live? I need to buy him a few drinks.
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #137 on: April 25, 2012, 02:26:52 pm »
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Also, the constraints problem, where you basically couldn't put in constraints, seems to be fixed now.
Where does DougZ live? I need to buy him a few drinks.

Palo Alto, CA
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #138 on: April 25, 2012, 04:27:20 pm »
+9

No matter how many times I enter Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, I can never start off with more than 5 Copper.
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #139 on: April 25, 2012, 04:52:45 pm »
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The correct incantation is <redacted> :P
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #140 on: April 25, 2012, 05:21:13 pm »
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The correct incantations don't work on the public server, unless you're logged in as me.  :-)
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #141 on: April 25, 2012, 06:09:21 pm »
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #142 on: April 25, 2012, 06:13:07 pm »
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dougz rises to the top of the leaderboard with his patented Platinum/Platinum opening.

(Link may actually have nothing to do with doug, but it is the most bizarre Isotropic log I've ever seen.)
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #143 on: April 25, 2012, 07:00:51 pm »
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No matter how many times I enter Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, I can never start off with more than 5 Copper.
Not exactly what you meant (I now realize you said 5, not 7), but allow me to refer you to this tread: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1587.0
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #144 on: April 25, 2012, 08:57:23 pm »
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No matter how many times I enter Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, I can never start off with more than 5 Copper.
Not exactly what you meant (I now realize you said 5, not 7), but allow me to refer you to this tread: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1587.0
I'm sure he meant "In Hand"
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #145 on: April 25, 2012, 10:53:04 pm »
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I'm sure he meant "In Hand"
As am I.
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #146 on: April 26, 2012, 01:41:45 am »
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I'm sure he meant "In Hand"
As am I.
Ah, misread that as "not exactly sure what you meant"
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #147 on: April 26, 2012, 10:33:36 am »
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dougz rises to the top of the leaderboard with his patented Platinum/Platinum opening.

(Link may actually have nothing to do with doug, but it is the most bizarre Isotropic log I've ever seen.)

How the hell did that even happen?
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #148 on: April 26, 2012, 12:07:45 pm »
+1

dougz rises to the top of the leaderboard with his patented Platinum/Platinum opening.

(Link may actually have nothing to do with doug, but it is the most bizarre Isotropic log I've ever seen.)
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Re: What's the worst Isotropic quirk in your opinion?
« Reply #149 on: April 26, 2012, 12:25:27 pm »
+12

How the hell did that even happen?

Yeah, so, um, embarrassing.

After theory posted that log, I was curious if there was a bug or exploit or something (it's a year old, but I didn't remember fixing anything along those lines), so I wrote to the player and asked him, and while I waited for him to reply I went reading through that section of the code.

Turns out that (until last night) the server didn't actually check to see if you had enough money to buy the card you asked to buy.  Normally it's not a problem because the interface only makes cards clickable if you can afford them, but if you hack the javascript, or insert a proxy that modifies the request on the way to the server (as bdhcompany did) it would happily sell you any card in the supply whether you had the money for it or not.  Whoops!

Anyway, bdhcompany was cool about it, that game was apparently a joke he was playing on his co-workers.  And it's fixed now, so this shouldn't be possible any longer.

No, I'm not going to do anything about past games.  If anyone was using it regularly, I guess we'll see a precipitous fall on the leaderboard soon...


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