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Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« on: August 30, 2022, 09:38:42 am »
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Weekly Design Contest 162:You Can Trip at $5
Design a cantrip card costing or more.

I have always found creating such cards to be hard. And yet, Dominion wants these cards to exist, somehow. We have Cartographer, Groundskeeper, Swap, etc... The task of this challenge is for you to add a new card to that list!

A cantrip is a card that gives you +1 Card and +1 Action. Base yourself upon the "List of Cantrip Cards" listed on this page.


Some extra rules include:
  • Please, do not make a Village, Laboratory or a Peddler variant. That opens up the design space a little too much for my taste and well, we want to have some kind of challenge here! A Village generates +2 Actions. A Laboratory increases your handsize by making you draw 2 or more cards. A Peddler is a cantrip that also yield + (or more).
  • Normally, a cantrip starts with a vanilla +1 Card and +1 Action. That's the purest and easiest form of a cantrip, you should aim to do just that. However, some cantrips can be creative, as is the case with Sorceress. The +1 Card aspect of it is hidden in the non-vanilla text. You can try to do that, but please be careful.
  • Ideally, your card would cost . But you can make a cantrip costing , or , etc...
Judging will attempt to be completed by 2022-09-08. I'm giving myself a week and a buffer of two extra days to account for the inevitable delays I always put you guys through (sorry)!
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2022, 02:10:33 pm »
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So, this is funny, I just made a couple 5$ cantrips. the problem is that they were both intended to be peddler-variants. I could say they're arguably not, but that was my intention when trying to make them.

So, while I will put both cards I made here, just as a preview, I'm not submitting them for this contest.

In light of the recent confusion in regards to what is and is not a cantrip or a Peddler, I'll be submitting Bookkeeper instead of Craftsman, as I am far more confident in the power of that design.
This is the card I'm submitting for the contest:

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Bookkeeper - Action - $5
+1 Card
+1 Action

You may play a Treasure from your hand twice.

Just a very nice card. allows you to gain more +$ than you otherwise would.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2022, 02:19:47 pm »
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Cantrip Chapel-Vault thing. Costs $6 to avoid getting it on a 5-2 opening.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2022, 02:34:15 pm »
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Countess is a simple cantrip Duchy gainer. How many Duchies did you want anyway? Priced at $6 to ensure it's not too easy to rush these and Duchies.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2022, 02:55:27 pm »
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I think Oasis variants qualify as Peddler variants.
Up to Xtra to decide that. If this ends up getting disqualified, so be it.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2022, 03:46:48 pm »
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To be as impartial as possible, I'll let the Wiki determine what is a pure cantrip and what isn't. More specifically, I'm basing myself upon this list:



Still, this list is far from being perfect. For instance, I fail to see how Rats is not a cantrip.

Moreover, while Oasis is considered a Peddler variant, Mill isn't. It's a little confusing. In the light of that confusion, I won't make things more complicated than they already are and gladly accept your entry. :)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2022, 06:15:33 pm »
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Land Claim
Action - $5
+1 Action
You may reveal a hand with no Duchies in it to gain a Duchy to your hand. Either way, afterwards, +1 Card.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2022, 07:35:52 pm »
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Wishmonger - $6
Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
Reveal the top card of your deck; you may discard it. Either way, if it costs…
$1 or less, trash it.
$2 or $3, gain a card costing up to $4.
$4 or more, gain a Wish.

Cantrip gainer/sifter/trasher. I had this priced at $5 with the middle mode triggering on a price range of $2 to $4 instead. I kinda like this version more. Requires more investment, but should get you Wishes a bit more often. Not sure of this is completely balanced. Feedback is appreciated.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2022, 10:06:15 pm »
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2022, 11:02:25 pm »
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A decent trasher that can itself be trashed for payload once it's no longer needed.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2022, 09:54:18 am »
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Submission:

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Name: Minister
Cost: $5
Types: Action, Liaison
+1 Card
+1 Action
Gain or lose Favors until you have exactly 5. Each other player gets +2 Favors.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2022, 10:07:36 am »
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My entry is in a way both a Peddler and a Village variant, but hopefully different enough to qualify.


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Hobo - $5
Action/Night

+1 Card
+1 Action
You may end your Action phase for +$3.
If it's your first Night phase this turn, you may return to your Action phase.

Clarifications:
- you only get +$3 if you successfully end your Action phase, i.e. you were in your Action phase when you started playing the Hobo.
- if you end your Action phase, you will be from then on in your Buy phase. Any Actions that are still resolving will finish doing so (e.g. Throne Rooms).
- you cannot end your Buy phase while resolving a Hobo, so it's impossible to trigger both conditional powers.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2022, 10:14:52 am »
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Still, this list is far from being perfect. For instance, I fail to see how Rats is not a cantrip.

Moreover, while Oasis is considered a Peddler variant, Mill isn't.
I think the list excludes mandatory trashing in general; Junk Dealer or Upgrade are also missing.

I think the definition used here is that you (can) have the same number of cards and Actions after playing a cantrip as before. That is also why Oasis does not qualify (you discard a card), but Mill does (you don"t have to discard).
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2022, 11:26:13 am »
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I hope this is allowed, but I made my card the bottom of a split pile with an official card at the top.


Pearl diver:
http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Pearl_Diver

Pearl (new version):



Pearl (old version):

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2022, 03:36:52 pm »
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Sure, Gold gaining has decreasing returns and this is in a split pile but I nonetheless think that this is too good.

Honestly, I agree, especially with the gold-stacking. Topdecking a gained card gives you a gold next turn. Bottom-decking it gives you a hand of 3 golds pre-shuffle.

I tried to avoid that with my new version.


The other thing is that a lot of this card's "cost" was the opportunity cost of having bought five Pearl Divers beforehand (possibly split, but still), but the players who didn't buy Pearl Divers could still buy Pearls and get most of the benefit (barring late game, a Gold is a Gold no matter where in your shuffle).

This new one requires you to invest in Pearl Divers if you want more than one Gold per shuffle.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2022, 05:32:09 pm »
+1



Note: This also removes the Ferry and Plan tokens.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2022, 06:35:34 pm »
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If you know what Mao is, this is my submission, otherwise don’t look it up and I submit a less-polished Past-Ap. Stop reading here. A Psudo-trasher that lets you gain one of the trashed cards conditionally and helps prolong games in times of need, it is surprisingly hard to get the trashing going without the variable cost, and can even be impossible to trash certain cards in some kingdoms.



If you don’t know what Mao is, Post AP is a cantrip attack that has non-attack interaction. I wish there was an elegant way to let you reveal a moat, etc, or use lighthouse on yourself playing this, but it makes it a gamble, and isn’t much of a change. You get first chance to draw and last chance to trash in case of ties. Players will always get either +1 cheap card or +1vp, even if they trash 2 cards. And revealing a moat gets +1vp, hence the non-attack interaction.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2022, 06:45:12 pm »
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If you know what Mao is, this is my submission, otherwise don’t look it up and I submit a less-polished Past-Ap. Stop reading here. A Psudo-trasher that lets you gain one of the trashed cards conditionally and helps prolong games in times of need, it is surprisingly hard to get the trashing going without the variable cost, and can even be impossible to trash certain cards in some kingdoms.



If you don’t know what Mao is, Post AP is a cantrip attack that has non-attack interaction. I wish there was an elegant way to let you reveal a moat, etc, or use lighthouse on yourself playing this, but it makes it a gamble, and isn’t much of a change. You get first chance to draw and last chance to trash in case of ties. Players will always get either +1 cheap card or +1vp, even if they trash 2 cards. And revealing a moat gets +1vp, hence the non-attack interaction.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2022, 06:46:33 pm »
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2022, 07:16:31 pm »
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If you know what Mao is, this is my submission, otherwise don’t look it up and I submit a less-polished Past-Ap. Stop reading here. A Psudo-trasher that lets you gain one of the trashed cards conditionally and helps prolong games in times of need, it is surprisingly hard to get the trashing going without the variable cost, and can even be impossible to trash certain cards in some kingdoms.



If you don’t know what Mao is, Post AP is a cantrip attack that has non-attack interaction. I wish there was an elegant way to let you reveal a moat, etc, or use lighthouse on yourself playing this, but it makes it a gamble, and isn’t much of a change. You get first chance to draw and last chance to trash in case of ties. Players will always get either +1 cheap card or +1vp, even if they trash 2 cards. And revealing a moat gets +1vp, hence the non-attack interaction.

Both of these are way too long. Mao has 10 lines of text and 80 words, and Post AP. has 11 lines of text and 77 words. The longest official card is Possession, with "just" 8 lines of text and 60 words. These cards would be way too long even if they were simple cards that just took a lot of words, like how Native Village has a lot of text but is actually very simple in effect. But both of these try to do way, way, way too much.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2022, 01:30:39 am »
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I still can't see it.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2022, 01:54:21 pm »
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My Submission (updated):



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Sewing Circle • $5 • Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
Choose one: gain a card costing up to $4; or set aside a Sewing Circle from the Supply; or discard a set-aside Sewing Circle.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

My submission is Sewing Circle, a cantrip gainer that (in addition to the standard costing-up-to-$4 gaining) can gain a copy of itself. While this multiplies your gaining ability down the line, doing so delays the other improvements to your deck that gaining will accomplish. But it is a pretty obvious benefit, enhanced by the fact that, as a cantrip, SC is not a stop card, so adding more to your deck won't slow it down.

The self-gaining also makes it even more cantrip-y. With other gainers, you can sometimes reach the point were you don't want any more of the cards that cost up to $4. If there's a cantrip available you can just gain that and (generally) not have any negative impact on your deck. But if they run out (or you otherwise don't want to gain any more of them), the gainer can become a dead card. With SC, you never have to gain a non-cantrip, since you an always choose the self-gaining option, either getting another copy or failing to gain if the pile is empty.

EDIT: I nerfed it slightly, so now it takes two plays to gain another Sewing Circle.



OLD VERSION:

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Sewing Circle • $5 • Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
Choose one: gain a Sewing Circle; or gain a card costing up to $4.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2022, 03:02:45 pm »
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An empty deck/discard with a Sewing Circle and at least one other cantrip in hand can empty the pile instantly which I'm never a fan of. That said, I still think it's a neat idea. The card it reminds me most of is actually Groom, which can also cantrip gain, can gain and play copies of itself (it loops pretty easily with +Actions, Groom+Horse can gain Groom+Horse, etc.), usually ends games in 3 piles, and it only costs $4. The biggest issue is that it's way easier to multiply these that to multiply Grooms since you don't need the +Actions. I wonder if adding a "(if you haven't gained one this turn)" after the "gain a Sewing Circle" might be enough to mitigate the autopiling issues.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2022, 03:14:21 pm »
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I think that is too crazy. Most cantrip workshops have a downside like being delayed (Cobbler), being conditional (Sculptor, Falconer) or being in a split pile (Hill Fort).
Unlike Hill Fort, this is immediately available and the self-gaining makes this far too good. I mean, which game in which this is in will not end in three-piling?

A game in which there aren't any Kingdom cards at $4 or less worth piling out. If it's all weak trashers and terminal Silver, those aren't the kind of cards that you want to fill your deck with.

I'd also point out that, even without SC's autogain and Hill Fort's gain-to-hand, HF would be a better card, because it's cantrip happens after the gaining, meaning that if you trigger the shuffle your new card doesn't miss it.


An empty deck/discard with a Sewing Circle and at least one other cantrip in hand can empty the pile instantly which I'm never a fan of. That said, I still think it's a neat idea. The card it reminds me most of is actually Groom, which can also cantrip gain, can gain and play copies of itself (it loops pretty easily with +Actions, Groom+Horse can gain Groom+Horse, etc.), usually ends games in 3 piles, and it only costs $4. The biggest issue is that it's way easier to multiply these that to multiply Grooms since you don't need the +Actions. I wonder if adding a "(if you haven't gained one this turn)" after the "gain a Sewing Circle" might be enough to mitigate the autopiling issues.

I'm not sure that's correct. Because SC gains after it draws, there has to be one waiting in the discard pile when you play another. Otherwise, you could pay a SC (drawing nothing because your deck/discard is empty) to gain a SC, then play the other cantrip to draw the 2nd SC, but when you played that, it wouldn't draw anything, and the other SC would be stuck in your discard. To autopile, you'd either need 2 SC in your hand or 1 in hand and there other one to be the only card in your discard/deck. (Rats works exactly the same way, but it also trashes cards). There's a fairly big difference between needing 2 of them and needing just 1, but there is still the possibility of autopiling. (You can also simulate having 2 SCs with a throne variant, and you can accomplish the chaining by playing a card that lets you topdeck on-gain [Tracker, WotSeal]).

I hadn't thought of the autopiling issue. I may have to come up with something to deal with that.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2022, 04:05:11 pm »
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An empty deck/discard with a Sewing Circle and at least one other cantrip in hand can empty the pile instantly which I'm never a fan of. That said, I still think it's a neat idea. The card it reminds me most of is actually Groom, which can also cantrip gain, can gain and play copies of itself (it loops pretty easily with +Actions, Groom+Horse can gain Groom+Horse, etc.), usually ends games in 3 piles, and it only costs $4. The biggest issue is that it's way easier to multiply these that to multiply Grooms since you don't need the +Actions. I wonder if adding a "(if you haven't gained one this turn)" after the "gain a Sewing Circle" might be enough to mitigate the autopiling issues.

I'm not sure that's correct. Because SC gains after it draws, there has to be one waiting in the discard pile when you play another. Otherwise, you could pay a SC (drawing nothing because your deck/discard is empty) to gain a SC, then play the other cantrip to draw the 2nd SC, but when you played that, it wouldn't draw anything, and the other SC would be stuck in your discard. To autopile, you'd either need 2 SC in your hand or 1 in hand and there other one to be the only card in your discard/deck. (Rats works exactly the same way, but it also trashes cards). There's a fairly big difference between needing 2 of them and needing just 1, but there is still the possibility of autopiling. (You can also simulate having 2 SCs with a throne variant, and you can accomplish the chaining by playing a card that lets you topdeck on-gain [Tracker, WotSeal]).

I hadn't thought of the autopiling issue. I may have to come up with something to deal with that.

Ah yep, that's right, I forgot the gain happens after cantrip, unlike Groom and Hill Fort where it happens before. Yes, you would need two SCs in hand or one each in the hand and in the discard pile to pile out.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2022, 05:13:46 pm »
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2022, 11:56:29 pm »
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Does this cost a buy?

Edit: From the Black Market FAQ:
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\A card bought during the Action phase does not count as a card bought in your Buy phase, so you do not need an Action card giving you +1 Buy to still buy a card during your normal Buy phase.

http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Black_Market#Official_FAQ
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2022, 01:06:42 am »
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Does this cost a buy?

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\A card bought during the Action phase does not count as a card bought in your Buy phase, so you do not need an Action card giving you +1 Buy to still buy a card during your normal Buy phase.

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It does not, for the same reason Black Market's buy does not cost a Buy.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2022, 08:57:58 am »
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Here's my submission:

Farrier
$5
Action - Reaction
+1 Card
+1 Action
Discard a card. If you did, gain a card costing less than this.
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When you discard this other than in Clean-up, you may reveal this to discard any number of Victory cards from your hand. Gain a horse for each card discarded this way.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2022, 09:58:25 am »
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Capitular • $5 • Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may discard a card from your hand to gain a copy of it. If you gained a Province or Colony this way, trash this.

this occupies a very similar space to Wheelwright but i think is distinct enough. I know, Gubump, it doesn't need 'from your hand'. I put that in there specifically to antagonize you.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2022, 11:43:49 am »
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Savant
Action
$5

+1 Action

Gain a card to your hand costing up to $1 per differently named card you have in play minus the number of Savants you have in play.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2022, 03:04:03 pm »
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Savant
Action
$5

+1 Action

Gain a card to your hand costing up to $1 per differently named card you have in play - the number of Savants you have in play.

I would suggest to reword the “-“ to a “minus.” It’s a small technicality but I think it’s much clearer and more in line with official card wording (might just be a personal thing, it just took me a minute to realize what this meant lol)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2022, 06:47:59 pm »
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Is this too close to being a lab variant?  (If so, I'll try to think of something else. But this one of my favorite cards that I've made.)

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Mad Scientist
$5  - Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may trash a card from your hand costing at least $2 for +2 Cards. If you don't, gain a Silver.

EDIT: added "from your hand"
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2022, 11:02:36 pm »
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Savant
Action
$5

+1 Action

Gain a card to your hand costing up to $1 per differently named card you have in play - the number of Savants you have in play.

I would suggest to reword the “-“ to a “minus.” It’s a small technicality but I think it’s much clearer and more in line with official card wording (might just be a personal thing, it just took me a minute to realize what this meant lol)

Glad it wasn't just me.

Is this too close to being a lab variant?  (If so, I'll try to think of something else. But this one of my favorite cards that I've made.)

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Mad Scientist
$5  - Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may trash a card costing at least $2 for +2 Cards. If you don't, gain a Silver.


Needs to specify where you're trashing from. I'd also suggest saying "$2 or more" if you want to be more in-line with official cards.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2022, 11:52:22 pm »
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Is this too close to being a lab variant?  (If so, I'll try to think of something else. But this one of my favorite cards that I've made.)

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Mad Scientist
$5  - Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may trash a card costing at least $2 for +2 Cards. If you don't, gain a Silver.


To be as impartial as possible, I'll let the Wiki determine what is a pure cantrip and what isn't. More specifically, I'm basing myself upon this list:



Still, this list is far from being perfect. For instance, I fail to see how Rats is not a cantrip.

Moreover, while Oasis is considered a Peddler variant, Mill isn't. It's a little confusing. In the light of that confusion, I won't make things more complicated than they already are and gladly accept your entry. :)

The obvious difference between Mill and Oasis is that Oasis' +$ is mandatory, while Mill's isn't. We can tell from this that if +$ is mandatory, it's a Peddler variant, but if it's not mandatory, it's not.

I think that going by this logic, the same should be true for Lab variants. If the drawing cards will happen every time you play the card, it's a Lab variant. If not, not.

Therefore, because you won't draw every time, it's not a Lab variant.

(For the record, I disagree. I'm just going by the logic of the contest. I myself think that this, Oasis, and Mill should all be considered Lab/Peddler variants, but it's X-tra's contest, and going by their logic, it should be allowed)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2022, 12:19:27 pm »
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Master Craftsman
Action ($5)

+1 Card
+1 Action
Discard 2 cards. Gain a non-Victory card to your hand costing exactly as much as the difference between the 2 cards.

Quick FAQ just in case:
If the 2 cards have the same cost, you can gain a $0 card (probably only really matters with cost reduction in play).
If one card has a strictly higher cost involving a Potion (ex. $4P and $2) then you can gain a Potion cost card.
If one card has a debt cost higher than another debt cost card (8D and 4D is really the only possibility with official cards) you can gain a debt cost card.
If no card exists at the price difference between the 2 cards (like $2P and $5 or 8D and $5) you do not gain anything.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2022, 02:36:26 pm »
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Here is my entry

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Receipt
$5
Action - Duration
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may set aside a Treasure from your hand to play it at the start of your next turn.
-
When you gain this, gain a Silver and you may set it aside to play it at the start of your next turn.
This card help players save money for the future which useful when the extra copper or two does make a difference on what they buy. This also has burst of money to help surge up to a Gold or other Treasure card which might be useful to put into play during the action phase.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2022, 03:19:40 pm »
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Master Craftsman
Action ($5)

+1 Card
+1 Action
Discard 2 cards. Gain a non-Victory card to your hand costing exactly as much as the difference between the 2 cards.

Quick FAQ just in case:
If the 2 cards have the same cost, you can gain a $0 card (probably only really matters with cost reduction in play).
If one card has a strictly higher cost involving a Potion (ex. $4P and $2) then you can gain a Potion cost card.
If one card has a debt cost higher than another debt cost card (8D and 4D is really the only possibility with official cards) you can gain a debt cost card.
If no card exists at the price difference between the 2 cards (like $2P and $5 or 8D and $5) you do not gain anything.
Given the way cost works in Dominion, $8D - $8D = $4 and not $4D. So the FAQ is counterintuitive.

Power level wise this sucks compared to Wheelwright. It is only better in one respect as it can gain Treasures. But in all other respects (two cards instead of one, 'exactly' instead of 'up to') it is far worse.

Wheelwright doesn’t gain to hand though, while this does. So your handsize is still the same in both cases. It is still probably worse than Wheelwright overall but Wheelwright is also a fairly strong card.
Is that really how it would work with Debt costs? I thought you would just subtract the lower debt cost from the higher one to get the difference (how could I reword it so that is the case?)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2022, 03:45:59 pm »
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Receipt
$5
Action - Duration
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may set aside a Treasure from your hand to play it at the start of your next turn.
-
When you gain this, gain a Silver and you may set it aside to play it at the start of your next turn.
This card help players save money for the future which useful when the extra copper or two does make a difference on what they buy. This also has burst of money to help surge up to a Gold or other Treasure card which might be useful to put into play during the action phase.


The Silver boost is neat but given that the play effect of this is nearly strictly worse (draw to X and obscure cases like Leprechaun prefer in play over hand) than Haven this is far from $5 territory.

Haven is a must effect, which Receipt is not, which is a bigger difference to me. Playing a Haven always means hurt the current turn to help the next turn which is not always great. Also if not used as a Haven but just a cantrip then Receipt reshuffles faster which ups the odds it meets up with the Treasures players are hoping to abuse. But you somewhat right this card is not super strong which why I gave it the Silver boost to push it from a $3/$4 to a $5. This card does combo with Quarry and a few other Fan-made Treasures that do weird stuff, also draw to X effects are common enough to make this interesting to me and I hope others.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2022, 05:35:29 pm »
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I updated my submission to this (I updated the OP as well):


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Sewing Circle • $5 • Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
Choose one: gain a card costing up to $4; or set aside a Sewing Circle from the Supply; or discard a set-aside Sewing Circle.

While I still disagree with segura about how strong it is, I do think the ability to auto-pile is an issue. In particular, the Sewing Circle + any throne + empty deck/discard OR topdecking is too easy. In order to take that away (and nerf it more generally) I made the duplicating ability take 2 plays. The first time sets it aside (rather than gaining) to keep players from using on-gain abilities/reactions to keep it from being set aside.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2022, 07:38:06 pm »
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Farrier. A sort of cantrip throne. You'll usually have at least something unique in your hand. Sometimes its harder to use but you dont need a card to be useful every kingdom.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2022, 05:00:50 am »
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Buyer
cost $5 - Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
This turn, when you pay for a card, +1 Buy.


Infinite buys! Do not use to pile out Coppers.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2022, 07:53:14 am »
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A dubious cantrip entry:



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Proselytist - $5
Action - Reserve

+1 Card
You may trash a card from your hand for +1 Villager

Put this on your Tavern mat
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When you trash a card, you may call this for +1% per $2 it costs (round down)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2022, 05:21:19 am »
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24 HOURS REMAINING
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2022, 06:23:32 pm »
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Barn Hand | Action | $5
+1 Villager
Discard a card and gain a Horse to your hand.
-
The next time you gain a card this turn, you may trash this from play to gain a card besides Barn Hand costing exactly $2 more to your hand.

you gain a card costing up $2 more than the gained card. For example if you have Barn Hand 1 in play, and then you play Barn Hand 2, gaining a Horse, you may trash Barn Hand 1 to gain a lab (costs exactly $2 more than Horse) to your hand. The Barn Hand exclusion is necessary to prevent auto-piling all 10 Barn Hands.

If you don't use the below the line, it's a slightly superior cantrip. Starting with 5 cards in hand and 1 action, you play Barn Hand and now you have 4 cards in Hand and no Actions. You discard a card and gain a Horse to hand, so you still have 4 cards in Hand. You spend a Villager to play the horse and you are left with 5 cards in hand and one action.

Of course if you don't need to spend the Action you just saved yourself a Villager. The below the line is a pretty powerful effect potentially, but the "exactly $2" limits its applicability.

The contest said to avoid non +1 Card +1 Action, but I had a silly idea of how to balance the most convoluted net +1 Card +1 Action and out came this card.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2022, 02:30:40 pm »
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CONTEST OVER

I'll try to get the results either today or tomorrow.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2022, 12:31:12 pm »
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CONTEST 162 RESULTS

24 entries, that’s uh, that’s quite a lot! I never had to judge so many cards at once. As such, it saddens me to say that, don’t expect big in-dept analyses of your cards, since I have many to go through. My reviews will unfortunately have to fall into the “quantity > quality” trope, since we have to move on with this contest. This doesn’t mean I will take the cards for granted though; I still have some integrity! :P

I will say in advance that I have a slight preference toward cantrips in their purest form. Some tried to stretch the definition a little and that’s super fine. Just, I like seeing the plain ol’ “+1 Card; +1 Action", ya know.

Anyway, on with it!




Barn Hand (Action)
+1 Villager
Discard a card and gain a Horse to your hand.
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The next time you gain a card this turn, you may trash this from play to gain a card besides Barn Hand costing exactly more to your hand.
Well, this really does stretch the definition of what a cantrip can be. I’ll be honest, I would’ve preferred sticking closer to the tried and true “+1 Card; +1 Action”. In any case, the top part seems decent, if a little weird. The bottom clause seems needlessly complicated, as a weird “Remodel me later” kind of idea. As such, it’s tough for me to assess the strength of this card. I’m sure it’s fine, if a little too convoluted.

Bookkeeper (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may play a Treasure from your hand twice.
Hey, this seems like the next logical step after Specialist! Okay so it’s better to throne Action cards, sure, but this right here is, as the contest wants it to be, a cantrip. Thus, it doesn’t hurt you to have a self-replacing card that doubles some payload you have. I think it’s a very elegant idea that could very much exist in Dominion. Maybe one could argue that it’s a little unoriginal, but nay I say. I think it would play quite differently than Crown or Specialist. Good card!

Bootlegger (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Play any number of Treasures from your hand, then you may buy a card. When you gain the bought card, put it into your hand.
The ever-changing Bootlegger! Got disgruntled at the debt, huh :P ? We’ve tested some different versions of this card before. This has lost its +Buy too, so I understand the nerf. I think that this will be quite a strong card now, seeing as it does exactly what it sought out to do since its inception: Giving you a card that you desperately need right there and then. I see this as a good way to feed your deck some draw when you need it; or a Village should you dud and be overterminalled. It’s very versatile, it invokes some reputable gain and plain and thus, it’s probably pretty swell to have a couple of Bootleggers in your deck!

Buyer (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
This turn, when you pay for a card, +1 Buy.
I see the idea behind this card and uh, unfortunately, I don’t think I’m a big fan. Solving the +Buy issue in one easy trick is killing a lot of what makes Dominion appealing: To search for components to build a competent deck. A solution-in-one just nukes that idea and makes everything too easy, too mind-numbing. Even stuff like Travelling Fair and Galleria that can multiply your Buys have some kind of restriction you must work around.

Capitular (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may discard a card from your hand to gain a copy of it. If you gained a Province or Colony this way, trash this.
You don’t need to say “from your hand”. There you go, I did the thing instead of Gubump, lol :P . Anyway, yeah, this is a nice hybrid between Swap and Wheelright, I kind of dig it! I do however advocate for this card to drop the Province/Colony clause altogether and stick to the “non-Victory” formula. Otherwise, you could build toward a feelsbad megaturn and we already have Horn of Plenty to fill that annoying gap. As in, you drew deck, have 4 or more Capitular in hand and one Province.

Cavalcade (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may trash a card from your hand.
---
When you trash this, gain a Gold to your hand and +1 Buy.
Hey, quite the sexy card, there! It’s a cantrip trash akin to Junk Dealer, but it replaces the + with a nice on-trash effect. It trashing itself seems like a good baseline, but it fares better with stronger trash-for-benefit cards, such as Salvager or Broker. I like the on-trash effect, it’d definitely try to play around it (and have fun doing so).

Countess (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Gain a Duchy.
I can hardly imagine a card being simpler than this one. Not that this is a bad thing! You see Countess in the Supply, and you know exactly what roles it plays. I can see fattening my deck with some Duchies as a thing I’d do. Heck, I already do that with Artisan sometimes, and Countess would do it better. I think this card would tend to empty the Duchies a little too quickly on average though, and so I wonder if associating some kind of condition or minigame to the Duchy gaining could be a healthy addition. Sure, the elegance would tank a little, but then the card could potentially be more fun to use. Just tossing ideas here, I think the simple unconditional Duchy gaining is already a pretty solid baseline.

Fairy Home (Action – Fate)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Choose one: Rotate any Kingdom pile; or put the top card of a Kingdom pile on top of a different Kingdom pile; or receive a Boon.
I think it’s usually a good thing to avoid calling out for the Kingdom specifically. I can see some players being confused by the definition and try to put a Silver or a Curse onto the Province Supply pile, for instance. I know you can’t do that, but Donald X stated before that a good portion of players don’t. Perhaps it would be clearer if you could only rotate or move cards from Action Supply piles instead, I don’t know. Anyway, I think there’s a cool idea there with the whole moving cards thingy. But it being a cantrip means that it’ll happen often in a game where one or more players invest heavily in Fairy Homes. So I wonder if piles won’t get mixed too much, making players lose track of what is where over the course of the game. The Boon option seems a little tacked on, and Donald X. usually warns against cantrip Boon givers (Pixie self-trash to account for that), but it’s not a big offender either. Overall, pretty swell card.

Farrier (Action)
+1 Card
You may play an Action or a Treasure from your hand. Reveal your hand. If you have no copies of it in your hand, you may play it again.
What an excellent idea for a Throne variant! Who says you can’t put a +1 Card on a Throne Room, ha! I think this solves that issue wonderfully, with the whole “revealing your hand”. You’ll have to be cautious about what card you play when. The minigame of hoarding unique cards to make Farrier work is probably not as intense as that of Menagerie, but man. If Cornucopia had a Throne Room, Farrier would be fair game. Even the name and flavour fits within Cornucopia. Anyway, I’d have a good time trying to build a deck around Farrier. You can even Farrier a Farrier if you only have one copy in hand! Very cool card, very cool idea, bravo!

Farrier (Action – Reaction)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Discard a card. If you did, gain a card costing less than this.
---
When you discard this other than Clean-up, you may reveal this to discard any number of Victory cards from your hand. Gain a Horse for each card discarded this way.
So, I quite like the top. It’s default use is a cantrip gainer, except, not really, since you have to decrease your handsize by 1 to gain a card. Cantrip gainers are usually deemed strong, but with a cost of alongside the aforementioned handsize reduction, I think this bounces back onto the weaker side of things. Luckily, there’s a Reaction attached to Farrier to rebalance the whole. Unfortunately, I find the Reaction a little too complicated. It’s got a lot of words, making this card really wordy as a whole. The condition is a strange one as well. I understand that this card self-synergises, but the Reaction does not really speak to me, sorry.

Hobo (Action – Night)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may end your Action phase for +. If it’s your Night phase this turn, you may return to your Action phase.
I think the second part could’ve simply said: “If it’s your Night phase, return to your Action phase”. Very rarely in Dominion will you be forced to play a Night card, so the “you may” can be safely dropped. It doesn’t hurt to go back to the Action phase even if the card you drew is like, a Province or something :P . This card is interesting, you’ll want a lot of these in your deck. In fact, I certainly would not mind having all 10 copies of Hobo in my deck. It seems really strong is where I’m getting at.

Land Claim (Action)
+1 Action
You may reveal a hand with no Duchies in it to gain a Duchy to your hand. Either way, afterwards, +1 Cards.
This does what the proposed Countess above does, but puts in a minigame in it. As such, already, my curiosity is piqued. I think the Duchy-gaining condition is a good one. It would slow down mindless Duchy spamming. You’d have to work on your deck a little harder to abuse Land Claim, such as discarding Duchies in hand via Oasis or what have you. The +1 Card being put at the end of the card is a little weird, but I understand why it works like that. Pretty cool card!
 
Mad Scientist (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may trash a card from your card costing at least for +2 Cards. If you don’t, gain a Silver.
Forgetting about the main idea of this card, the fallback clause is already a cool idea of its own. Silver gaining cantrip seems like it could exist in just about any Dominion expansion. Unless my mind is rotting, we do not have such a card in Dominion quite yet, it’s sort of stunning, really. The trashing option is a very good way of culling Estates away from your deck. You’d better believe I’d do it in a heartbeat. But it’s not just about Estates either. Sometimes, you need the draw, and I wouldn’t feel bad about blowing a Silver to do so- and look! Mad Scientist gives you Silvers to do so too! You knew what you were doing when you made this, hehehe! The only small thing to be scarred about here is how much Silver flooding this would allow.

Master Craftsman (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Discard 2 cards. Gain a non-Victory card to your hand costing exactly as much as the difference between the 2 cards.
A pretty basic gainer, but you gotta do maths like with Forge. Usually, I tend not to like these sorts of math-y cards all too much, but I think Master Craftsman does it in a basic enough way that it’s acceptable for it to exist. It just seems a little weak is all. Even if you gain a , reducing your handsize by 2 is a tough deal when cards like Wheelwright exists.

Medium (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may discard a Victory card from your hand to gain a cheaper Spirit from one of the Spirit piles, or to gain a cheaper Treasure.
Hey, cool idea! Early on, this’ll act a bit like Exorcist, leeching off Estates to add some Will-O’-Wisps to your deck. Except, there are differences. This can gain and play Will-O’-Wisps, this is handsize neutral, it doesn’t cull the stop card away from your deck and it’s more expensive. This already strikes me as balanced, but this goes beyond. A Duchy or a Province for an Imp/Ghost seems pretty appealing. Perhaps this would push you toward greening early? Not to mention that this is a pretty damn good friend with alt- cards, such as Nobles or Mill. All in all, being encouraged to keep your green and pushing you toward early greening makes you plan differently than your typical Dominion game, and for that, I really love this card. I didn’t even mention a thing about the Treasure part of Medium, but do I need to? I’m already sold!

Minister (Action – Liaison)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Gain or lose Favors until you have exactly 5. Each other player gets +2 Favors.
Oof, this really dispatches a whole bunch of Favors at once! A bit too much for my taste, sorry...! This is like Underling on crack, except, Underling already exists. Like, imagine Minister with Island Folk. This becomes a cantrip extra turn giver. Or with Circle of Witches, a Familiar sans Potion. How about getting 5 Ratcatcher tokens at once with Peaceful Cult? No really, I think this is way too much. You ought to work for your Favors. Here, everyone gets a bunch, there’s no struggle.

Monk (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Move your +1 Card, +1 Action, +1 Buy or + token to an Action Supply pile you have no tokens on (when you play a card from that pile, you first get that bonus). At the start of Clean-up, remove all your tokens from their Action Supply piles.
Holy text Batman! Granted, most of it comes from the Adventures token instruction, so it suffers from the same faith as Teacher. If there was a way to reduce the number of words on this card, I’d be up for it. Because I do like the idea of temporary tokens to boost your cards on a turn basis. Perhaps Monk could do without the “you have no tokens on” condition? It’d be easier to answer via testing.

Pearl Diver/Pearl (Action)
This pile starts with 5 copies of Pearl Diver on top of 5 copies of Pearl. Only the top card of the pile can be gained or bought.

Pearl (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Reveal the bottom card of your deck. If it isn’t a Gold, gain a Gold to the bottom of your deck.
Hey, pretty cool buff to Pearl Diver! I like this edit of Pearl, the first version indeed seemed a tad too much on the strong side (luckily, a stack of Pearl Divers was still atop of it). I do like the whole fishing for a Gold minigame. But I feel like in practice, there could be situations where you draw deck, and then nothing stops you from flooding your deck with some Golds with your leftover Pearls, Windfall style. Something to perhaps keep in mind, I suppose.

Proselytist (Action – Reserve)
+1 Card
You may trash a card from your hand for +1 Villager. Put this on your Tavern mat.
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When you trash a card, you may call this for +1 per it costs (round down).
A loose definition of a cantrip, hmmm. We here have the infamous “it” in the call clause. Are we referring to the trashed card, or to the Proselytist itself? It’s quite obvious to me that it’s the former, but still. Reserve cards are annoying to word because of that, lol. As for the card itself, it seems like a fairly powerful way of scoring. As a whole, however, I feel like it tries to do so much, perhaps too much. You need your Tavern mat, your Villagers/Coffers mat and tokens for a single card only!

Receipt (Action – Duration)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may set aside a Treasure from your hand to play it at the start of your next turn.
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When you gain this, gain a Silver and you may set it aside to play it at the start of your next turn.
The bottom part could’ve tried to mimic Reap; I’m not so sure it needs a “you may there”, primarily. As for the top part, it sure seems weak to me at . In a Treasure-less engine, which happens often enough, this is essentially an overpriced “do nothing” card (and in those games, you do not want the on-gain Silver). Same when you draw it at the wrong time. I feel like this is the sort of card that would’ve liked being a Treasure, perhaps at or something. I’ll say though, I really do like the on-gain effect. Wish we had an actual official card that did something like this.

Savant (Action)
+1 Action
Gain a card to your hand costing up to per differently named card you have in play minus the number of Savants you have in play.
Oof, this calls for way too much maths for me to properly plan ahead with this card. I feel like this could bring some moments of analysis paralysis, as you carefully try to plan your turn order to maximise Savant’s reward, especially if you have many in your deck. If drawn early in your turn, this is effectively a self-junking card, so you’d rather not play it, and then it’s just a dead card. It can totally work if you have a good deck to support it though, just, I’m worried about the “shot myself in the foot” of it. Definitely a card I’d have to play with first to truly assess the power level to avoid sounding completely off.

Sewing Circle (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Choose one: Gain a card costing up to ; or set aside a Sewing Circle from the Supply; or discard a set-aside Sewing Circle.
So if I’m understanding this correctly, the set-aside Sewing Circles can be grabbed by any player? Like everyone’s contributing to one single set aside pile of Sewing Circles? If so, then this definitely has some Lurker feels to it. I kind of like it, mostly, because it’s a cantrip gainer, but I could see myself trying the set aside minigame if I have a couple of Sewing Circles in my deck. Then you become the master of 3-piling, and players should be scared of you! :P

Used Goods Store (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Trash and/or discard any number of cards from your hand. + per card discarded this way.
I think the non-cantrip effect could’ve benefited from being separated in two different sentences. “Trash any number of cards from your hand. Discard any number of cards for + each”. Because right now, I feel like one could mistakenly think that the and/or means that both operations can be mixed and matched at will. “I trash this card. Okay, now I discard this Village Green. Sweet, I drew a card, I’ll trash it! Now I discard […]”, y’know what I mean. The effect is cool. We have a Count/Vault hybrid attached to a cantrip, I think it can work. Though, uh, it’s probably pretty strong. A couple of play testing games would highlight if that’s truly the case.

Wishmonger (Action)
+1 Card
+1 Action
Reveal the top card of your deck; you may discard it. Either way, if it costs...
or less, trash it.
or , gain a card costing up to .
or more, gain a Wish.
Mucho texto on the cardo. So this is some kind of Ironmonger which checks for the card’s cost instead of its type. Pretty novel idea, I could see that working. The problem is the Wish part of it, to me. It seems like in a fair number of games with Wishmonger, players will get a bunch of them, putting Leprechaun to shame. It doesn’t seem too hard to make it work: Not unlike Ironmonger, get a bunch of Wishmonger and simply build a good deck. Wishmongers tripping on each other makes this even better, it’s a positive feedback loop. If Wishmonger cost or less, it would still be strong, but it would cull that positive loop a little, I would assume.




Semifinialists: Bootlegger; Cavalcade; Countess; Mad Scientist; Pearl Diver/Pearl; Sewing Circle

Finalists: Bookkeeper; Land Claim; Medium

Winner: Farrier (binbag420)


Well picking a winner was a living nightmare. There are too many good entries here, how am I supposed to pick a single card to take the win, hahaha! Still, I had to pick, that’s the whole point of them contests, and so I chose binbag420’s Farrier. It is living proof that a Throne Room with a +1 Card can be a thing. Not only that, but it’s a Throne that’s not as mindless as other Thrones; it creates a cool and tactical minigame, of which you need to plan your deck for. And for that, I pass on the next contest to binbag420.

Thank you everyone for participating; I must simply reiterate that your wonderful entries made it extremely difficult for me, hehe!

Oh, by the way... Sorry IlstrawberrySeed, I still could not see your images loading! I did see them when you first posted them, but then it seems like the link broke, or something.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2022, 03:17:01 pm »
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Oh wow, didn’t expect to win. A lot of very strong entries, Medium especially looks very fun. I was pretty proud of farrier though. Good job everyone.

Never won one of these, but i’ll try and come up with something and hopefully post new round tonight.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2022, 08:40:25 am »
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Hobo (Action – Night)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may end your Action phase for +. If it’s your Night phase this turn, you may return to your Action phase.
I think the second part could’ve simply said: “If it’s your Night phase, return to your Action phase”. Very rarely in Dominion will you be forced to play a Night card, so the “you may” can be safely dropped. It doesn’t hurt to go back to the Action phase even if the card you drew is like, a Province or something :P . This card is interesting, you’ll want a lot of these in your deck. In fact, I certainly would not mind having all 10 copies of Hobo in my deck. It seems really strong is where I’m getting at.
Not sure how that happened, but it seems that you dropped a word from my card text. It is supposed to read.
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You may end your Action phase for +. If it’s your first Night phase this turn, you may return to your Action phase.
which I think would take care of the balancing issue and the question of why you wouldn't want to return to your Action phase; at least that was the intention.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #162: You Can Trip at $5
« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2022, 09:11:15 pm »
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Hobo (Action – Night)
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may end your Action phase for +. If it’s your Night phase this turn, you may return to your Action phase.
I think the second part could’ve simply said: “If it’s your Night phase, return to your Action phase”. Very rarely in Dominion will you be forced to play a Night card, so the “you may” can be safely dropped. It doesn’t hurt to go back to the Action phase even if the card you drew is like, a Province or something :P . This card is interesting, you’ll want a lot of these in your deck. In fact, I certainly would not mind having all 10 copies of Hobo in my deck. It seems really strong is where I’m getting at.
Not sure how that happened, but it seems that you dropped a word from my card text. It is supposed to read.
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You may end your Action phase for +. If it’s your first Night phase this turn, you may return to your Action phase.
which I think would take care of the balancing issue and the question of why you wouldn't want to return to your Action phase; at least that was the intention.

Ahhhhh God dammit! You have no idea how much it hurts me to see bad judging on my end because of my own misquoting mistake. Yes indeed, that would tackle the main issue I had with the card. That certainly would've boosted my opinion of your card, so sorry about that! I'll try to be more careful down the line.  :-\
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