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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #500 on: July 28, 2022, 10:33:12 am »

So, definitely leaning towards the SK

vote: Didds
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #501 on: July 28, 2022, 10:58:45 am »

Vote Count 2.2
Every year across Africa, hippos kill an estimated 500 people, making them the worldís deadliest mammal, after humans, and nearly twice as deadly as lions.

MiX (2) : eddie, joth
Shraeye (2) : MiX, WCD
WCD (1) : Shraeye
 
Not voting (3) : EFHW, gkrieg, mathdude
 
Currently, MiX is set to be exiled! With 8 alive, it takes 5 to exile. Day 2 ends July 31, 2022, 03:10:00 pm your time.
 
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eddie→EFHW
eddie→unvote
eddie→MiX
MiX→Shraeye
joth→MiX
WCD→Shraeye
Shraeye→WCD
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #502 on: July 28, 2022, 11:56:30 am »

Vote: Shraeye

Iím open to moving to one or two other people, but the list is short. Iím heading to Ohio later today to visit friends this weekend so Iíll be a bit scarce, but itís not like anyone is burning up the thread right now. Catching a serial killer is hard, apparently. (I think this might be my first game that has an outright SK instead of a third party team!)

vote: Didds. It doesn't seem like she gave this vote a lot of thought, given that Shraeye's comment and joth's question were still unaddressed.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #503 on: July 28, 2022, 12:05:54 pm »

Vote: Shraeye

Iím open to moving to one or two other people, but the list is short. Iím heading to Ohio later today to visit friends this weekend so Iíll be a bit scarce, but itís not like anyone is burning up the thread right now. Catching a serial killer is hard, apparently. (I think this might be my first game that has an outright SK instead of a third party team!)

vote: Didds. It doesn't seem like she gave this vote a lot of thought, given that Shraeye's comment and joth's question were still unaddressed.

Joth didn't ask me a question. He asked Shraeye one that hasn't been answered:

shraeye do you suspect Didds of being the SK, or are you just telling her she's wrong?

I have no interest in engaging with Shraeye any more today. D1 his comments were snide and about my stunning lack of ability to build a case on someone despite me finding scum. Today he is taking me to task for things that others think or have responded to. He seems convinced that I am a baddie in a stubborn sort of way, so it all seems rather pointless. I think anyone who knows me knows that there isn't any way in hell in that I would kill Jimmmm when MiX or faust were still alive, so its just whatever.  Absent actually finding the SK, I am a fine enough exile for today.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #504 on: July 28, 2022, 12:19:38 pm »

Iím firmly on team Eddie/Joth now!

Why is Eddie/Joth a team? What made you want to join it?

These are the folks instrumental in exiling Jack. They are my town team. Either of them not joining the wagon would have made traction on exiling scum way harder.
So, what are your thoughts on gkrieg's claim?

I believe him. Or at least I think itís in our best interest to proceed as if what he is saying is true. If itís not, we find out soon enough.

Shraeye, here's the answer you wanted. Yesterday.

What now?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #505 on: July 28, 2022, 12:26:30 pm »

Ugh. I need to stop being stubborn and fragile.

I don't think the SK antagonizes someone like that. The SK follows along.

Vote: EFHW
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #506 on: July 28, 2022, 12:30:46 pm »

And I don't think ther SK responds like you did in your previous post, Didds. So between the 3 current options today, I was leaning toward Shraeye... but now that you just switched off that wagon... I'd lean MiX over EFHW. Though right now, I don't see any solid reason not to vote any of the 3 of them.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #507 on: July 28, 2022, 12:33:08 pm »

That's my list, too, mathdude.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #508 on: July 28, 2022, 12:36:04 pm »

Iím firmly on team Eddie/Joth now!

Why is Eddie/Joth a team? What made you want to join it?

These are the folks instrumental in exiling Jack. They are my town team. Either of them not joining the wagon would have made traction on exiling scum way harder.
So, what are your thoughts on gkrieg's claim?

I believe him. Or at least I think itís in our best interest to proceed as if what he is saying is true. If itís not, we find out soon enough.

Shraeye, here's the answer you wanted. Yesterday.

What now?
That wasn't what I was waiting for. See joth/shraeye/Didds combo

D1 his comments were snide and about my stunning lack of ability to build a case on someone despite me finding scum.
Today he is taking me to task for things that others think or have responded to.
He seems convinced that I am a baddie in a stubborn sort of way, so it all seems rather pointless.
Let's go line-by-line:
Disagree on tone, content, and relevance of consequence.
Disagree on magnitude and cause.
Disagree on my mindset and the futility of words.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #509 on: July 28, 2022, 12:36:44 pm »

I don't get why EFHW is on the list...disagree with that take.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #510 on: July 28, 2022, 12:43:02 pm »

Last post aimed at mathdude.

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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #511 on: July 28, 2022, 12:59:04 pm »

D1 his comments were snide and about my stunning lack of ability to build a case on someone despite me finding scum.
Today he is taking me to task for things that others think or have responded to.
He seems convinced that I am a baddie in a stubborn sort of way, so it all seems rather pointless.
Let's go line-by-line:
Disagree on tone, content, and relevance of consequence.
Disagree on magnitude and cause.
Disagree on my mindset and the futility of words.

Off your number one: this is snide. It may not be relevant to you, but it is to me and I get to determine my own consequences.

I think Didds level of heing and hawing has been much higher, also has been put on display on a awkward way....feels performative.

And if Didds is borrowing the metric of scumShraeye is shraeye-lite, it really feels like this is didds-lite.  I was thinking about that before Didds came in with her analysis on her wagon.
Hmmm....  I was looking at the people voting for me...
And wow. The amount of effort/substance staggered me.


#2: magnitude and cause- your cause is unknown to me. Magnitude is that I have you been your sole focus since mid-way through D1, and all of today.

#3: mindset and futility of words. I think Joth summarized well. We disagree on what an SK would think. I have no experience being an SK so I am just guessing. You decide the way that I think about is wrong and therefore scummy, so it really doesn't matter what I say.  I will agree that I don't know your mindset, but but can be surmised based on these posts.


This really doesn't compute. If Eddie/Joth are the folks most instrumental in exiling Jack, you can be HAPPY with their actions (I am) but in terms of whether their actions make them GoodPeople...their actions really just means "They are very much not Jack's partner."  Which means they are either SK or Town, each having equal incentive/happiness at exiling a Goon on Day1.

The only world where Jack's partner is somehow still alive is when it is gkreig going crrrrazy with a gambit.  So, you're saying "I am sure Eddie/joth are on my team because they are not Jack's partner....really doesn't compute with the statements you made here"

shraeye do you suspect Didds of being the SK, or are you just telling her she's wrong?


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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #512 on: July 28, 2022, 01:12:14 pm »

D1 his comments were snide and about my stunning lack of ability to build a case on someone despite me finding scum.
Today he is taking me to task for things that others think or have responded to.
He seems convinced that I am a baddie in a stubborn sort of way, so it all seems rather pointless.
Let's go line-by-line:
Disagree on tone, content, and relevance of consequence.
Disagree on magnitude and cause.
Disagree on my mindset and the futility of words.

Off your number one: this is snide. It may not be relevant to you, but it is to me and I get to determine my own consequences.
The fact that we exiled a scum does not override your lack of cases.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #513 on: July 28, 2022, 01:18:10 pm »

Vote: mathdude
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #514 on: July 28, 2022, 01:19:18 pm »

I donít have cases either, shraeye.

Am I the SK?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #515 on: July 28, 2022, 01:19:33 pm »

Also, today is my anniversary so hooray for debatepro and me! :)

Congratulations! Thatís awesome
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #516 on: July 28, 2022, 01:20:29 pm »

Vote: mathdude Iím feeling heís the most likely SK.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #517 on: July 28, 2022, 01:26:08 pm »

unvote

I donít have cases either, shraeye.

Am I the SK?
I never said that no cases was the SK-way. The issue came up D1, where Didds made a post that seemed wagon-analysis-ish but had much less content than, forexample, joth's similar post.

In Didd's rebuttal of my general suspicion, she said "despite me finding scum" which indicates a mitigating factor to what came before...so now my current issue is that finding scum doesn't mitigate her previous posts.

On another note:
ARE you the SK??
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #518 on: July 28, 2022, 02:06:02 pm »

Iíll never tell.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #519 on: July 28, 2022, 02:35:33 pm »

unvote. I didn't realize that in not responding Didds was reacting from the position of irkedness. I know joth asked the question, but I thought she'd want to find out why Shraeye meant to imply before voting.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #520 on: July 28, 2022, 02:36:06 pm »

unvote. I didn't realize that in not responding Didds was reacting from the position of irkedness. I know joth asked the question, but I thought she'd want to find out why what Shraeye meant to imply before voting.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #521 on: July 28, 2022, 03:49:48 pm »

I donít have cases either, shraeye.

Am I the SK?

I certainly haven't ruled it out.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #522 on: July 28, 2022, 03:51:26 pm »

my instinct is that Didds's defensiveness here is scummy, but I think I've thought that before with her and its turned out to be genuine towny frustration.
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« Reply #523 on: July 28, 2022, 03:59:28 pm »

so I reject my instinct
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #524 on: July 28, 2022, 04:41:00 pm »

ďIrkednessĒ is a great word!
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