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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #425 on: July 25, 2022, 06:00:52 am »

Ok, well, I'm sure others have figured this out, but we should definitely not claim anything today. Well, anything else.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #426 on: July 25, 2022, 07:24:02 am »

Voted Jack early and without reservations: faust, WCD
Expressed reticence but still voted Jack early: joth, Eddie
Expressed reticence but voted Jack eventually: Joseph
Explicitly against the Jack exile: EFHW, Jack
Didnít express a sentiment but voted Jack eventually: Jimmmm
Didnít express a sentiment, didnít vote Jack: mathdude, shraeye, MiX

Looking at the day end, Joseph is the most obvious partner to me, which I guess gives gkrieg some town points.

Damn, if gk is telling the truth then weíre just SK hunting and this wagon analysis is considerably less useful. And if go is lying heís scum so weíre still SK hunting. Unless gkrieg is the serial killer and heís lying, which we do have to consider. But I think we can wait at least one night before we go heís down that rabbit hole.

SK wouldnít shoot Joseph though. Because killing the other faction off this early is bad for them.

Even (and dare I say especially) the towniest players could be the SK. How are we supposed to catch them?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #427 on: July 25, 2022, 07:26:20 am »

I mean, if your SK test is ďstayed under the radarĒ I think MiX and shraeye fit the bill. They both played D1 pretty nonconfrontational and stayed out of all the major drama, which is not really on-brand for either of them.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #428 on: July 25, 2022, 08:59:13 am »

Ha! I suppose it's possible that gkrieg is the SK, yeah. This setup really hides mechanical information well.

How do we catch the SK? Well...I guess we just have to read D1 again.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #429 on: July 25, 2022, 12:36:22 pm »

Between vig, cop, and RB... whoever is still alive, we likely have a decent chance of finding SK in the next night or two.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #430 on: July 25, 2022, 01:07:00 pm »

Ok, well, I'm sure others have figured this out, but we should definitely not claim anything today. Well, anything else.

It will be harder to trust claims tomorrow. The earlier we do then the more helpful they are.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #431 on: July 25, 2022, 01:08:19 pm »

Ok, well, I'm sure others have figured this out, but we should definitely not claim anything today. Well, anything else.

It will be harder to trust claims tomorrow. The earlier we do then the more helpful they are.

No, they're equally hard. SK has a free bluff today, so.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #432 on: July 25, 2022, 01:29:52 pm »

Every day the SK is cumulatively more likely to kill a Weird Cop or RB. Not just on that day, but across all days.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #433 on: July 25, 2022, 02:09:46 pm »

Joth, what do you think about claiming now vs. claiming later?

Iím firmly on team Eddie/Joth now!
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #434 on: July 25, 2022, 03:03:20 pm »

Every day the SK is cumulatively more likely to kill a Weird Cop or RB. Not just on that day, but across all days.

Yes, but they could've done it now, so we can't trust PR claims already.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #435 on: July 25, 2022, 03:23:35 pm »

claiming in general is not going to be that useful because of the information asymmetry... I think.

I don't know. I think I'm with MiX. Give our PRs one more night to work.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #436 on: July 25, 2022, 05:09:04 pm »

I kind of want gkrieg to be lying because it's such a cool fakeclaim. But if Joseph was the vig, goon!gkrieg would be better off staying quiet. Having spoken up now makes him a probable SK target.

gkrieg - How did you decide that giving us the information you had was worth dying for?

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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #437 on: July 25, 2022, 06:39:17 pm »

Unvote I guess.

Although I am less than happy about it.

Is it a good idea to reveal the other named Town people? Is that a thing? I canít decide.

In theory itís

1 SK
1 RB
1 Weird Cop
1 Gkrieg
4 VT

And if we reveal our other 2 buddies, then they canít get body-snatched by a SK.

Maybe just the RB reveals? They are a lot less helpful if both Mafia are truly dead.

I just donít want a body snatch to happen.

I feel like keeping gkrieg alive to use him as a shot is more helpful than killing him today.

EhhhhÖ

I'm trying to make sense out of this post.
- What would be the benefit to town of a claim? Why can't you decide?
- What is a body snatch?

I was confused by the 1 gkrieg thing, with no mention of goon or vig, but now I get it that he's one of the two options and the other is dead.

There is some reason to consider exiling gkrieg, since goon!gkrieg would have an nk to kill another town. We may have the assistance of the RB, but in blocking gkrieg they lose a chance to help find the SK. Vig!gkrieg might want to shoot, too, but that is less worrisome given that he'd be making his decision in light of town's best interests. We don't generally exile vigs to keep them from shooting!

In the end, I agree we should not exile gkrieg today. He put himself in the SK crosshairs by claiming, and a solo goon would not do that. Would a drunk!solo!goon?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #438 on: July 25, 2022, 06:51:22 pm »

Town claiming would avoid a body snatch (kinda).

A body snatch is a cannibal killing a town PR and claiming to be that PR (since we canít disprove it due to no flip, and they know they killed that PR, so so counter). Effective snatching the body and pretending to be that PR.

Claiming now means the only possible bodysnatches are from if Jimmmmm was a PR or if Joseph was the real Vig.

In future days itís much more foggy. Each day increases the likelihood that claims are nothings.

And yeah. I canít decide. Half of me thinks Joth/MiX are into something. Half of me thinks we almost solve the game with claims.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #439 on: July 25, 2022, 07:53:20 pm »

Town claiming would avoid a body snatch (kinda).

A body snatch is a cannibal killing a town PR and claiming to be that PR (since we canít disprove it due to no flip, and they know they killed that PR, so so counter). Effective snatching the body and pretending to be that PR.

Claiming now means the only possible bodysnatches are from if Jimmmmm was a PR or if Joseph was the real Vig.

In future days itís much more foggy. Each day increases the likelihood that claims are nothings.

And yeah. I canít decide. Half of me thinks Joth/MiX are into something. Half of me thinks we almost solve the game with claims.
Ok. I see now. It's too late, though. A VT could also be snatched. That's why I didn't see the point in claiming.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #440 on: July 25, 2022, 08:14:07 pm »

VT being snatched is much less significant, no?

Because a VT being snatched is essentially the same as having 5 claimed VT?

I dunno.

Iím down for no claim if itís only me seeing an issue here, though.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #441 on: July 25, 2022, 09:04:04 pm »

Vote: MiX
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #442 on: July 25, 2022, 10:08:04 pm »

Vote Count 2.1
Remains of hippo have been found underneath Trafalgar Square.
MiX (1) : eddie
 
Not voting (7) : EFHW, gkrieg, joth, mathdude, MiX, Shraeye, WCD
 
Currently, MiX is set to be exiled! With 8 alive, it takes 5 to exile. Day 2 ends July 31, 2022, 03:10:00 pm your time.
 
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eddie→EFHW
eddie→unvote
eddie→MiX
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #443 on: July 25, 2022, 10:11:40 pm »

Closed on the house today. Had to drive 6 hours for a cashiers check. Will respond tomorrow once I have internet set up.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #444 on: July 25, 2022, 10:27:56 pm »

Closed on the house today. Had to drive 6 hours for a cashiers check. Will respond tomorrow once I have internet set up.

Congratulations!!!!
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #445 on: July 25, 2022, 10:58:33 pm »

Joth, what do you think about claiming now vs. claiming later?

Iím firmly on team Eddie/Joth now!

We're making teams? I'm on your team.

Really though, I don't think claiming does much other than expose PRs. A little coordination could happen, but then scum/SK could know better how to counter... at night and with claims.

And each cannibal (including gk, whether good or bad) now has a safe claim that cannot be countered, even if it is just VT. We know each got a kill last night, with 3 night deaths.

At least next game day, we should only have a max of 3 deaths (exile and 2 night kills), so there should still be 5 or more around then.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #446 on: July 25, 2022, 11:32:27 pm »

VT being snatched is much less significant, no?

Because a VT being snatched is essentially the same as having 5 claimed VT?

I dunno.

Iím down for no claim if itís only me seeing an issue here, though.
I can see where we would have a harder time exiling a claimed PR than a claimed VT. But an uncountered claimed PR is automatically suspicious whereas a fakeclaiming VT is just one in a group of other people claiming VT.  Nothing to draw attention to themselves. And that issue isn't solved by claiming PRs now.

I like this "body snatching" term. It seems very apt!

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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #447 on: July 25, 2022, 11:36:20 pm »

Just realized that mathdude, in the post just before mine, said a lot of what I wrote. Sorry math!
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #448 on: July 26, 2022, 04:28:15 am »

VT being snatched is much less significant, no?

Because a VT being snatched is essentially the same as having 5 claimed VT?

I dunno.

Iím down for no claim if itís only me seeing an issue here, though.

I don't think this is relevant enough for us to lose our PRs.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #449 on: July 26, 2022, 04:29:51 am »

Vote: shraeye

Sheeping joth.

At least I have the confort in knowing that scum!me knows what town!me does, because I think I'd do this as SK too.
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