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[infangthief]

mathdude, you've at least twice mentioned the "strong" or "polarising" opinions people had about scolapasta. Can you elaborate?

I can't recall anyone expressing strong scola views, except for gkrieg. And I would say at least 6 people (MiX, Didds, e, EFHW, me and you) were all rather hedgy, kind of happy to vote there but maybe preferring to vote somewhere else.

[WestCoastDidds]

Deadline is 23.5 hours away….

WestCoastDidds (1) : mathdude
Galzria (2) : EFHW, fang
mathdude (2) : WestCoastDidds, MiX
MIX (1): gkrieg
 
Not voting (6) : Galzria, jotheonah, Swowl
Day 3 ends March 12, 2022, 09:00:00 am your time.

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

[MiX]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

Sheeping fang, and also math seems like the weakest link in my theory.

[infangthief]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

Sheeping fang, and also math seems like the weakest link in my theory.

"Weakest link" as in most likely to be scum, or easiest to exile?

[MiX]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

Sheeping fang, and also math seems like the weakest link in my theory.

"Weakest link" as in most likely to be scum, or easiest to exile?

I guess both? It was supposed to be the first one.

[gkrieg13]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

I said that MiX is either scum or lazy town, and then he proceeded to double down on the lazy town thing. I just don't see MiX doing this. He also has one of the highest post counts, so he is being active in the thread, just not actually doing any scum hunting. He did a wagon analysis, but then didn't really do anything to try to verify that what he found was correct.

[mathdude]

Quick lunch post...

Vote: Galz
Part self-preservation, part policy, part seems like scum lurking.

Gkrieg makes a good case about MiX. Might switch to there. I'll look more after school and answer fang's questions.

[MiX]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

I said that MiX is either scum or lazy town, and then he proceeded to double down on the lazy town thing. I just don't see MiX doing this. He also has one of the highest post counts, so he is being active in the thread, just not actually doing any scum hunting. He did a wagon analysis, but then didn't really do anything to try to verify that what he found was correct.

Hold on...did you want me to double down on the scum instead? I never said you were wrong on that dichotomy.

[gkrieg13]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

I said that MiX is either scum or lazy town, and then he proceeded to double down on the lazy town thing. I just don't see MiX doing this. He also has one of the highest post counts, so he is being active in the thread, just not actually doing any scum hunting. He did a wagon analysis, but then didn't really do anything to try to verify that what he found was correct.

Hold on...did you want me to double down on the scum instead? I never said you were wrong on that dichotomy.

In my reread, I gave scum!MiX a game plan: just be lazy, and gkrieg will think you're town. I feel like you read that and then your D3 has been what I said above. I think what tipped the scales was math's post, showing you still had a very high post count.

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

Sheeping fang, and also math seems like the weakest link in my theory.

But you didn’t sheep fang. He’s voting for Galz

[gkrieg13]

So I've read most of mathdude again, and I still think most likely scum.

But I also do not want to let Galzria slide by without his promised contribution. I recall a game I spectated recently in which Galzria kept promising stuff and leaving it later and later in the day, and he was scum, exiled day 1. This feels similar.

This is how I feel about galz after my reread.

[MiX]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

I said that MiX is either scum or lazy town, and then he proceeded to double down on the lazy town thing. I just don't see MiX doing this. He also has one of the highest post counts, so he is being active in the thread, just not actually doing any scum hunting. He did a wagon analysis, but then didn't really do anything to try to verify that what he found was correct.

Hold on...did you want me to double down on the scum instead? I never said you were wrong on that dichotomy.

In my reread, I gave scum!MiX a game plan: just be lazy, and gkrieg will think you're town. I feel like you read that and then your D3 has been what I said above. I think what tipped the scales was math's post, showing you still had a very high post count.

What, no, the gameplan you gave me was "be active and gkrieg will think he's town", because I've been lazy this entire game. If I'm scum, then I know how I look, and I also know it won't carry me the entire game. So there's really 2 plans for scum!me, be active and steer the town into exiling town, or be lazy and bus.

Think about it this way: if I'm scum, I already know I've been playing the lazy town card for the whole game. So your post cannot influence me to be even lazier.

[MiX]

MiX, gkrieg… care to share the reason for your votes?

Sheeping fang, and also math seems like the weakest link in my theory.

But you didn’t sheep fang. He’s voting for Galz

I'm sheeping his reads, not his vote. His vote might be right, but I know his read is correct.

[jotheonah]

Vote: mathdude

Galzria is a terrible idea today. Even if he's scum, which he's not, his exile will tell us absolutely nothing about who his partners are. I think his disengagement is a null-tell, but if it's anything it's a town tell because Galzria tends to try pretty hard as scum.

[EFHW]

vote: mathdude that's X-1. 

[J Reggie]

Vote Count 3.2
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mathdude (4) : WestCoastDidds, MiX, jotheonah, EFHW
Galzria (2) : infangthief, mathdude
MiX (1) : gkrieg13
 
Not voting (2) : Galzria, Swowl
 
Currently, mathdude is set to be exiled!  Day 3 ends March 12, 2022, 09:00:00 am your time.

Votes:
infangthief -> mathdude
mathdude -> WestCoastDidds
EFHW -> Galzria
infangthief -> --
WestCoastDidds -> mathdude
infangthief -> Galzria
MiX -> mathdude
gkrieg13 -> MiX
mathdude -> Galzria
jotheonah -> mathdude
EFHW -> mathdude

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote: mathdude

Galzria is a terrible idea today. Even if he's scum, which he's not, his exile will tell us absolutely nothing about who his partners are. I think his disengagement is a null-tell, but if it's anything it's a town tell because Galzria tends to try pretty hard as scum.

This is very Joth sounding like MiX and it makes me nervous

[infangthief]

vote: MiX

I wish I could wait up longer and see what happens to that mathdude wagon next, before posting this, but I need to turn in for the night, so I will say this now.

I do not have a good feeling about MiX. gkrieg's case on him is not bad either, the bit about him not bothering to check whether his VCA findings are accurate.

So with mathdude on eggs-minus-one and MiX voting for him, I've gone and reread MiX.

There's lots I could talk about, but one very relevant thing I came across is #822, where he argues against joth being on X-1 near the end of day 2. For someone who says they've not been paying enough attention this game, it is quite something for him to say:

"Of course joth can be scum here, but there's absolutely no reason to think that given his posts this game."

So I would say MiX + joth looks very possible.

And overall MiX is right up there probably more scummy than mathdude from this reread.

I do not like this mathdude wagon.

PPE 1

[infangthief]

Vote: mathdude

Galzria is a terrible idea today. Even if he's scum, which he's not, his exile will tell us absolutely nothing about who his partners are. I think his disengagement is a null-tell, but if it's anything it's a town tell because Galzria tends to try pretty hard as scum.

This is very Joth sounding like MiX and it makes me nervous

Hmm, yes, I suppose so. Actually, this is joth's first post in like about 36 hours. A weird way to rejoin the thread.

[Swowl]

So 3 point reads were not doing anything so I expanded it to 4 and included MiX.
That leaves [Math, Didds, GK, MiX]

Vote Count 1.3!
2.71828..... (3) : Galzria, Dylan32, jotheonah
mathdude (3) : EFHW, Swowl, infangthief
Dylan32 (2) : faust, WestCoastDidds
MiX (2) : gkrieg13, mathdude
gkrieg13 (1) : 2.71828.....
WestCoastDidds (1) : MiX
Not voting (1) : scolapasta

- Didds on town with Town.
- MiX is UNK with GK and Math on UNK!MiX
- Also there is the math wagon, which I am being bias about because the other 2 on it are my top town reads (EFHW and Fang).
--- Snap shot makes me suspect Math>GK and WCD/MiX at equal.


Vc 1.5
mathdude (4) : EFHW, Swowl, infangthief, jotheonah
Dylan32 (4) : faust, 2.71828....., mathdude, gkrieg13
2.71828..... (2) : Galzria, Dylan32
WestCoastDidds (1) : MiX
scolapasta (1) : WestCoastDidds
Not voting (1) : scolapasta

- Math wagon makes me suspicious of Joth. But no where near enough to address it today over the other options.
- Obv the big on is the Dylan wagon, with Math and GK. This time tie on Math and GK - just based on there being 8 hours left and potential self prez for math. But that is for sure a potential team pairing at that point.
- Both the one off votes of mix and didds end up split over the 2 wagons at the eod. So that is something to be noted as that is another potential partner pairing.

Vote Count 1.Final
Dylan32 (5) : faust, 2.71828....., mathdude, gkrieg13, WestCoastDidds
2.71828..... (4) : Dylan32, MiX, jotheonah, infangthief
mathdude (3) : EFHW, Swowl, Galzria
Not voting (1) : scolapasta

- Dylan wagon. Been covered. There is skum there. Not 100% on how many but I will go ahead and say 100% I think there is skum.
- E wagon. If I have to pick one I pick MiX. But I also pick Galz over MiX, but Galz wasn't in the iso, so focusing on the top 3 on this one.
- Math wagon. Again, not the focus for today. Galz is the pick if I am picking I guess, but honestly that is just based more on my towncore read on efoo this game.

 
Vote Count 2.2
mathdude (3) : infangthief, EFHW, Galzria
WestCoastDidds (2) : jotheonah, mathdude
scolapasta (2) : gkrieg13, MiX
Swowl (1) : 2.71828.....
jotheonah (1) : WestCoastDidds
Not voting (2) : scolapasta, Swowl

- Math wagon. Weird but early day I guess. Without reading too much into it, it makes galz look good if WCD is town. And reversed ofc.
- WCD wagon. For Math to be town here it is either a weird early bus or imo Galz has to be skum.... making it like Didds/Galz.... GK/MiX? note to self to look into that bit later.

Vote Count 2.5
mathdude (3) : Galzria, Swowl, jotheonah
jotheonah (3) : WestCoastDidds, EFHW, gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (2) : 2.71828....., scolapasta
scolapasta (2) : MiX, mathdude
WestCoastDidds (1) : infangthief

- Math wagon. skumster on math
- Joth wagon. WCD>GK
- GK wagon. Super interesting.
- Overall super interesting snap shot. None of my suspected are voting for other suspected but 2 of them on are on Joth and 2 of them are on conf!town pasta. Makes pairings between any 2 of them fairly likely.

Vote Count 2.Final
scolapasta (5) : MiX, mathdude, EFHW, WestCoastDidds, gkrieg13
WestCoastDidds (4) : infangthief, scolapasta, 2.71828....., jotheonah
mathdude (2) : Galzria, Swowl

cool so I will just simplify it off of both the 2 day end VCs...

Day 1
Dylan32 (5) : faust, 2.71828....., mathdude, gkrieg13, WestCoastDidds
2.71828..... (4) : Dylan32, MiX, jotheonah, infangthief
mathdude (3) : EFHW, Swowl, Galzria
Not voting (1) : scolapasta

Vote Count 2.Final
scolapasta (5) : MiX, mathdude, EFHW, WestCoastDidds, gkrieg13
WestCoastDidds (4) : infangthief, scolapasta, 2.71828....., jotheonah
mathdude (2) : Galzria, Swowl

That is Math GK Didds on both final wagons.
Day 1 Defense on Math.
Day 2 Defense on Didds.
But I do not think that Math and Didds are both skum.
So it is either Math or Didds and the second is GK.
The third is a throw up between MiX/Galz - Followd by Joth.

I am not going to hammer until tonight. I would also be ok with Didds. I will place my vote when I get back from coaching this evening.

[jotheonah]

Vote: mathdude

Galzria is a terrible idea today. Even if he's scum, which he's not, his exile will tell us absolutely nothing about who his partners are. I think his disengagement is a null-tell, but if it's anything it's a town tell because Galzria tends to try pretty hard as scum.

This is very Joth sounding like MiX and it makes me nervous

Hmm, yes, I suppose so. Actually, this is joth's first post in like about 36 hours. A weird way to rejoin the thread.

Ah yes. So weird to show up slightly before deadline, express a negative opinion about the leading wagon, and vote for a competing one. What a bizarre reason to show up and make a post.

[EFHW]

@Swowl. Did you get any insight from that analysis?

[WestCoastDidds]

Swowl, my feathered friend, if you can look within your inner Thelma and know that I am town, it will make your analysis much more decisive and it will help solidify our town core. You know the town me better than anyone. When it’s scum me, I avoid talking to you because you’re you. This is town me.

[Swowl]

@Swowl. Did you get any insight from that analysis?

Way the fuck less than I was hoping for.
I am solidified on 2/4 minimum of my bolded vs 1/3 minimum from previous pool. But that is about it.