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[WestCoastDidds]

Has anyone talked about EFHW at all today? Or faust? They seem to be going low. Galzria too, but I already gave him a D1 pass.

There was a little bit of chatter early on with reads lists but nothing for the bulk of the day.

[jotheonah]

(to faust)

I don't see why Dylan is scum. Does he need to make more wallposts? I feel like the read you have on Dylan is the same I had on scola, and I oppose it for the same reason you opppsed my read on scola.

His first game post felt very "need to post something with content". Then he used his early case as an excuse to not do anything else, which seems like a scum thing to me: I've found my fake case, I want to stick to it because otherwise I have to make up something else, and that's hard.

You know what’s not hard is switching your vote to e.

It's not hard... for scum. e is actually one of the towniest players around here.

Well you know what they say about the towniest player around. Almost definitely scum.

[faust]

(to faust)

I don't see why Dylan is scum. Does he need to make more wallposts? I feel like the read you have on Dylan is the same I had on scola, and I oppose it for the same reason you opppsed my read on scola.

His first game post felt very "need to post something with content". Then he used his early case as an excuse to not do anything else, which seems like a scum thing to me: I've found my fake case, I want to stick to it because otherwise I have to make up something else, and that's hard.

You know what’s not hard is switching your vote to e.

It's not hard... for scum. e is actually one of the towniest players around here.

Well you know what they say about the towniest player around. Almost definitely scum.

I'm not sure who "they" is supposed to be... Is this something you actually believe in some form? I have to ask because it seems you have the opposite opinion to me on everything else.

[WestCoastDidds]

Is anyone willing to CFD onto Didds, or are we doing Dylan/e today?

Is there any sort of reason why that I can respond to? Or are you just leaning into “she’s off” until you’re wrong after my flip but it’s irrelevant because I’m gone?

[2.71828.....]

There isn't really a case on e. (At least, I posted one, but I flip back and forward on whether I even believe it myself.)

I think most people are voting e for just slightly scummy things / turns of phrase he's said.
First one for me was his second post of the game, where he answers the question that he asked in his previous post.
Joth and Dylan each mentioned other ones when they laid their first votes. Galzria possibly also, I can't remember.

e went through a phase of announcing about 4 different people were town, or day 1 passes for him. Which is possibly towny, but so much of it in a row just seemed like he was laying into the "faust doesn't like this, look I'm going to do it anyway to show I don't care". (Ok, what I'm saying here is maybe just similar to mathdude's "scumhunting" of MiX; I was already thinking e was likely scum by that time.)

Otherwise, I don't think e has done much (or any?) scumhunting. There was a bit possibly on gkrieg, but he didn't have much to say when challenged. And of course in that context there was this exchange, which I still don't know what to make of:

Gkrieg's read-and-reply regarding math feels.... Genuine? But I don't see it as townie.

Just feels like he was about to white knight math then decided to keep some shade going.

Not calling math scum, but just keeping the option alive

Genuine?
White-knighting + shading?
Which one?

Genuine in the sense that he read the first post, reacted one way, then kept reading and reacted another way

And then the interactions with mathdude, who may well be scum.

PPE: 7

Let me vote e because math might be scum

[2.71828.....]

My meeting is about to start, we will see how long it goes.

[faust]

I could go for MiX, just saying. But I probably won't because there's only like an hour left.

On the plus side, my dentist's appointment is actually later than I remembered, so I will make it to the deadline.

[WestCoastDidds]

I could go for MiX, just saying. But I probably won't because there's only like an hour left.

On the plus side, my dentist's appointment is actually later than I remembered, so I will make it to the deadline.

Hmmmm…. I don’t hate that idea. I like it better than math or e.

[WestCoastDidds]

An update to the fang count

Dylan32 (4) : faust, 2.71828....., mathdude, gkrieg13
mathdude (4) : EFHW, Swowl, Galzria
2.71828..... (4) : Dylan32, MiX, jotheonah, infangthief
scolapasta (1) : WestCoastDidds
 
Not voting (1) : scolapasta

[MiX]

Is anyone willing to CFD onto Didds, or are we doing Dylan/e today?

Is there any sort of reason why that I can respond to? Or are you just leaning into “she’s off” until you’re wrong after my flip but it’s irrelevant because I’m gone?

I'm not feeling any non-scola non-Didds CFD, and I don't reeeeally want scola dead. I just trust my early read.

[WestCoastDidds]

An update to the fang count

Dylan32 (4) : faust, 2.71828....., mathdude, gkrieg13
mathdude (3) : EFHW, Swowl, Galzria
2.71828..... (4) : Dylan32, MiX, jotheonah, infangthief
scolapasta (1) : WestCoastDidds
 
Not voting (1) : scolapasta

Rather

[EFHW]

vote: e
Mostly just to take out the "blame-free" self-preservation option for Dylan.
(Which is the reason e and mathdude joined the Dylan wagon yesterday, I assume.)

Why not just vote Dylan?

I'm not following your reasoning here.

[MiX]

I don't like the MiX wagon, but it's a good CFD. I don't think today has been especially useless for me to die, though.

[WestCoastDidds]

What is CFD?

[infangthief]

What is CFD?

Chinese Fire Drill, I think. Running someone up to exile last minute, from nothing.

[jotheonah]

(to faust)

I don't see why Dylan is scum. Does he need to make more wallposts? I feel like the read you have on Dylan is the same I had on scola, and I oppose it for the same reason you opppsed my read on scola.

His first game post felt very "need to post something with content". Then he used his early case as an excuse to not do anything else, which seems like a scum thing to me: I've found my fake case, I want to stick to it because otherwise I have to make up something else, and that's hard.

You know what’s not hard is switching your vote to e.

It's not hard... for scum. e is actually one of the towniest players around here.

Well you know what they say about the towniest player around. Almost definitely scum.

I'm not sure who "they" is supposed to be... Is this something you actually believe in some form? I have to ask because it seems you have the opposite opinion to me on everything else.

I think generally scum is good enough at the game to not act scummy on day 1. Overtly scummy players are usually just misplaying town.

My case on e is my favorite kind of day 1 case because it's specific but slight. The sort of small mistakes day 1 scum actually makes.

Your case on Dylan is... I don't really understand it TBH. But the problem with day 1 cases in general is they try to be these broad cases about someone's whole pattern of play and like, that's exactly what scum is paying attention to.

Not scum hunting? That's a town tell if I've ever seen one! Of course scum is going to be scumhunting, as hard as they possibly can.

[jotheonah]

I don't like the MiX wagon, but it's a good CFD. I don't think today has been especially useless for me to die, though.

MiX, I love you, but the martyr thing is getting old. You're not the exile today, and that's OK.

[WestCoastDidds]

What is CFD?

Chinese Fire Drill, I think. Running someone up to exile last minute, from nothing.

Ah, got it. The scramble.

[jotheonah]

MiX, I'd go to Didds with you (sorry Didds).

[MiX]

I don't like the MiX wagon, but it's a good CFD. I don't think today has been especially useless for me to die, though.

MiX, I love you, but the martyr thing is getting old. You're not the exile today, and that's OK.

I'm not advocating for myself, for the record. I just like the idea of getting someone else as a wagon, and I was talked about a bunch. So, good idea, wrong person, mostly because I'm town.

MiX, I'd go to Didds with you (sorry Didds).

Better than math, I guess.

Lemme reread Didds though.

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX, I'd go to Didds with you (sorry Didds).

It’s okay. As long as you and Mix both promise that the morning after the flip, you rue you’re wrongness and decorate your message with heart emojis in apology because the gameplay is less charming when I’m not around and you made that happen.

[infangthief]

vote: e
Mostly just to take out the "blame-free" self-preservation option for Dylan.
(Which is the reason e and mathdude joined the Dylan wagon yesterday, I assume.)

Why not just vote Dylan?

I'm not following your reasoning here.

If any of these three wagons (Dylan, e or mathdude, or any other wagon that materialises) is on scum, then we're getting good info here from people's reactions as we approach deadline.

When I turned up an hour ago (escaped from my parallel universe), no-one had said anything in like half an hour, so it seemed like things would just stay as they were, and Dylan would show up, vote mathdude, no responsibility attached because it would have been self preservation.

So it was in that context.
Since then everything has kicked off, which is probably good.

[faust]

Of course scum town is going to be scumhunting, as hard as they possibly can.

FTFY

[WestCoastDidds]

We are in a weird stasis. I’ll go back to

Vote: Dylan which I don’t think really changes anything but probably it’s not helpful to anyone for me to be hanging on to a solo vote

[MiX]

Unvote

Who did I want to vote before? I forgot now...well, when in doubt, vote scum.

Vote: Didds

Pfftt, you can do better than that

Joth wrote this post, right?

I withdraw my scumread on Didds. This is really flimsy since I'm using the previous game as meta, but I trust it.