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[J Reggie]

Vote Count 1.4
Eggs start wiggling around by themselves a few days before hatching.

2.71828..... (3) : Galzria, Dylan32, jotheonah
mathdude (3) : EFHW, Swowl, infangthief
Dylan32 (3) : faust, WestCoastDidds, 2.71828.....
MiX (2) : gkrieg13, mathdude
WestCoastDidds (1) : MiX
 
Not voting (1) : scolapasta
 
Currently, 2.71828..... is set to be exiled!  Day 1 ends at February 22, 2022, 09:00:00 am your time. That's just under 24 hours away!

[mathdude]

Vote Count 1.2
Platypus and echidnas are the only mammals which lay eggs.

Anyone else reading the anecdotes in the vote counts? This one was great, because my daughter had just learned about these 2 exact animals in school the day before this was posted.

(VC1.3 tells us that vote counts now contain links).

[infangthief]

I agree with fang about mathdude, except for one thing. I'm voting him and fang isn't. Why not? That was part of your criticism of him, that he called things out but didn't vote.

You agree with me about mathdude? Do you agree with this thing I said to mathdude:

I don't have a problem with the format of your reads list, or you saying that you think MiX and e are not both scum. That is all fine in my view (though you need to be prepared for people to ask "why" you think that).

Yes, but when I asked what was behind his MiX/e read, he had nothing to point to. That makes the either/or scummy.

It was mostly a D1 gut read.  I felt like they were on different paths/priorities, but not an intentional "we need to not be connected" type of way.  And at the time I was making those initial thoughts, they seemed to be 2 of the most active.

Looking back now, I found 1 quote from each that probably influenced my reads as well.

There's a wagon on e? Haven't noticed. Have we even gotten a VC yet?

All these MiX votes. Did he do something recently that I should know about?

Or just MiX being MiX

Those two seem to be commenting on the other to stay relevant, but not getting connected.

Nothing here makes me want to move my vote away from you, sorry.

[mathdude]

Vote: Dylan

scola has also just jumped way up on my list of people I'd vote... not from what MiX said, but the brief interaction with faust.  If there's any traction there, I'll definitely join.

[infangthief]

Vote Count 1.2
Platypus and echidnas are the only mammals which lay eggs.

Anyone else reading the anecdotes in the vote counts? This one was great, because my daughter had just learned about these 2 exact animals in school the day before this was posted.

(VC1.3 tells us that vote counts now contain links).

Yes, I like them.

The links are useful. Eg we can click on "Dylan32" and go straight to his discord channel that says he is a red egg reason for voting for e, which was immediately followed by e responding to his reason. Dylan, would you like to share why you are voting for e at the moment?

PPE 1

[infangthief]

Alright.

Vote: Didds

Ah, yes. An even more useful session with 24 hours remaining.

e, why is it not useful for MiX to vote for Didds?

[jotheonah]

Vote: mathdude just to keep things interesting

[infangthief]

Vote: Dylan

scola has also just jumped way up on my list of people I'd vote... not from what MiX said, but the brief interaction with faust.  If there's any traction there, I'll definitely join.

Do you think Dylan is more likely to be scum than MiX?

PPE 1

[WestCoastDidds]

Fang, you’re Dylan strike through was hilarious.

Pasta is for sure but concerned about listing when he’s scum.

[infangthief]

Fang, you’re Dylan strike through was hilarious.

Pasta is for sure but concerned about listing when he’s scum.

Did you click on it to check?

Listing, as in leaning to one side a bit? Or making lists? Or listening? Concerned or not concerned?

[infangthief]

Vote: mathdude just to keep things interesting

Are you changing vote because you want to avoid me asking you the same thing as I asked Dylan?

Why have you been voting for e up until now?

[jotheonah]

Vote: mathdude just to keep things interesting

Are you changing vote because you want to avoid me asking you the same thing as I asked Dylan?

Why have you been voting for e up until now?

No, that’s silly.

Because he said something scummy. And I don’t like how faust tried to squash his wagon with no reason.

[MiX]

Is now the time to explains why you think math is scum, joth?

[gkrieg13]

MiX is still who I want to exile, but out of the current choices, I like math the least.

I won't be around for the deadline, it's too early for me.

vote: Dylan

X-1, I believe.

[jotheonah]

Is now the time to explains why you think math is scum, joth?

Actually, no. I’ll save it for day 2.

[jotheonah]

I would switch back to e if there were a chance of that happening. Dylan is my least favorite of the viable wagons.

[gkrieg13]

Oh wait, can't count. Only X-2.

[Dylan32]

I'm still voting e for the same reasons I was before. I haven't seen anyone that has risen to the same level of scummy to me than him.

Not useful case for why I'm town:
A) I play better as scum, and I clearly haven't posted enough to be considered to have played well this game. Check win-loss record in signature for evidence of this difference.
2) I generally try to make stronger cases more aggressively as scum than I do as town, because I feel more confident pushing lies or false narratives as scum than pushing cases or narratives that I'm more likely statistically to be wrong about than right about.
D) Pretty sure faust reads me wrong when I'm town way more than he reads me correctly, going way back. Never made a big deal about it, but I literally don't remember him ever really pushing me for an extended period of time when I've been scum, but it happens pretty much every game I'm town in.
42) I'm the easy path of least resistance exile that will give town the least information if you flip me today. This doesn't really speak to being town, but I can confidently say I've never intentionally lurked to avoid giving information as scum and I don't plan on it. (Let the WIFOM abound now that I've said it)

[2.71828.....]

Dylan, what do you think about gkrieg?

[2.71828.....]

Went back and iso'ed mathdude, getting all townie vibes

[EFHW]

All these MiX votes. Did he do something recently that I should know about?

Or just MiX being MiX

Of the " 'RVS' pile on MiX " crew I find gkrieg the most scummy. Or is that just leftover bias from a long forgotten game?

Vote: gkrieg

These both after only 2 votes on MiX from faust and gkrieg. It seems more like seeing a wagon starting to build on a partner and trying to move momentum early enough to stop it rather than a townie reaction to a couple RVS votes.

Vote: e

This is Dylan's e case that he says he still agrees with. @Dylan, wouldn't it make more sense to vote for MiX if you think e is being partnery? Your e read seems based on an underlying MiX scum read.

[EFHW]

Also @Dylan, e has posted a bunch more since #91, when you voted him. What have you thought of those posts?

[infangthief]

There's a wagon on e? Haven't noticed. Have we even gotten a VC yet?

How's the wagon on you going, do you think?

I forgot. I think joth's still voting me?

Not only am I not still voting for you, I never voted for you in the first place. Begrudging town points for not paying attention to the game.

I disagree with the "begrudging town points" - I'd give him tentative scum points.  See this comment about e earlier:

On the other hand, e has seemed remarkably calm through a huge wagon growing on him (4 votes now I think?). That's towny for most people. Anyone know e's meta in this kind of thing?

e is savvy enough to sidestep the wagon freakout tell.

e is wise enough not to "fall" for a wagon.  MiX is wise enough to know that "not realizing the votes were where he thought they were" is something people give town-points for on D1.  I wouldn't put it past MiX to abuse this group meta to get town points - something he would be looking to do as scum, but wouldn't need to do as town.

This post makes me feel like math is scum hunting.

Does it? Are you being influenced by your own read on MiX?

The other way to look at it is if mathdude was determined to paint MiX as scum. And here we have: "Oh dear someone is giving MiX town points, I'd better point out the way in which this could be scummy." From reading the rest of mathdude's posts this game I do get the sense that he has an agenda like that.

[EFHW]

I, on the other hand, am coming around to scum Math, but I am 100% okay with my current vote on dylan.

Most people were moving away from scum!math. What was making you come around? Why the Dylan vote?

[EFHW]

e is wise enough not to "fall" for a wagon.  MiX is wise enough to know that "not realizing the votes were where he thought they were" is something people give town-points for on D1.  I wouldn't put it past MiX to abuse this group meta to get town points - something he would be looking to do as scum, but wouldn't need to do as town.

This post makes me feel like math is scum hunting.

Does it? Are you being influenced by your own read on MiX?

The other way to look at it is if mathdude was determined to paint MiX as scum. And here we have: "Oh dear someone is giving MiX town points, I'd better point out the way in which this could be scummy." From reading the rest of mathdude's posts this game I do get the sense that he has an agenda like that.

I have two reactions to this.
1. I agree with fang that this math post reads more like shade than scum-hunting.

2. @fang, can you substantiate your statement that math has an agenda to make MiX look scummy?