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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #225 on: February 17, 2022, 09:02:32 am »

There's a wagon on e? Haven't noticed. Have we even gotten a VC yet?
How's the wagon on you going, do you think?

I forgot. I think joth's still voting me?

Not only am I not still voting for you, I never voted for you in the first place. Begrudging town points for not paying attention to the game.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #226 on: February 17, 2022, 09:23:53 am »

Vote Count 1.2
Platypus and echidnas are the only mammals which lay eggs.
2.71828..... (4) : infangthief, Galzria, Dylan32, jotheonah
MiX (2) : EFHW, gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (1) : 2.71828.....
WestCoastDidds (1) : MiX
Dylan32 (1) : faust
 
Not voting (4) : mathdude, scolapasta, Swowl, WestCoastDidds
 
Currently, 2.71828..... is set to be exiled!  Day 1 ends at February 22, 2022, 09:00:00 am your time.

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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #227 on: February 17, 2022, 09:24:40 am »

On the other hand, e has seemed remarkably calm through a huge wagon growing on him (4 votes now I think?). That's towny for most people. Anyone know e's meta in this kind of thing?

It takes 7 to exile, 4 votes is nothing
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #228 on: February 17, 2022, 09:25:46 am »

On the other hand, e has seemed remarkably calm through a huge wagon growing on him (4 votes now I think?). That's towny for most people. Anyone know e's meta in this kind of thing?

It takes 7 to exile, 4 votes is nothing

Except in this case, it does. (Being pluralist)
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #229 on: February 17, 2022, 09:26:33 am »

On the other hand, e has seemed remarkably calm through a huge wagon growing on him (4 votes now I think?). That's towny for most people. Anyone know e's meta in this kind of thing?

It takes 7 to exile, 4 votes is nothing
Well we have plurality exiles, so 4 might just be enough.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #230 on: February 17, 2022, 09:27:22 am »

Oh I just noticed that I have a dentist's appointment at the time of the deadline  :(
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #231 on: February 17, 2022, 09:27:27 am »

We also have 5 days left until the deadline
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #232 on: February 17, 2022, 09:28:43 am »

Oh I just noticed that I have a dentist's appointment at the time of the deadline  :(

I have a meeting that starts an hour before the deadline so I may not be around either
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #233 on: February 17, 2022, 09:29:34 am »

More people should be voting for Dylan by the way. Don't worry, I was assured that doing that takes very little effort.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #234 on: February 17, 2022, 09:59:13 am »

e, what do you think about the wagon on you?

faust, what do you think about the wagon on e?

Dylan, what do you think about faust?

Didds, what do you think about MiX's case on you?

How is everyone enjoying being an egg? Do you find it constricting, or freeing?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #235 on: February 17, 2022, 09:59:24 am »

More people should be voting for Dylan by the way. Don't worry, I was assured that doing that takes very little effort.

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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #236 on: February 17, 2022, 11:11:37 am »

e, what do you think about the wagon on you?

faust, what do you think about the wagon on e?

Dylan, what do you think about faust?

Didds, what do you think about MiX's case on you?

How is everyone enjoying being an egg? Do you find it constricting, or freeing?

I would rather know if I'm a PR or not.

Cool, town!joth.

More people should be voting for Dylan by the way. Don't worry, I was assured that doing that takes very little effort.

Vote: Dylan
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #237 on: February 17, 2022, 11:46:14 am »

How is everyone enjoying being an egg? Do you find it constricting, or freeing?

Being inside an egg is possibly my worst phobia.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #238 on: February 17, 2022, 11:48:40 am »

Better late than never! Not sure where to go yet. My default setting says to vote for MiX, but I see there's a few there already so I'll wait until I read in more depth.
Please let me know when you've done this and what your findings are.

Haven't done it yet. Won't have time tonight. Hoping for tomorrow.

Can you tell everyone to stop posting to limit how much I need to catch up on?

mathdude being jokey anti-town here. Excited to see his catch-up.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #239 on: February 17, 2022, 12:16:04 pm »

faust, what do you think about the wagon on e?
It feels quite outdated. The last change to that wagon was what, over 100 posts ago, which is basically half the game. It's the sort of wagon with just enough justification so that people hang on to it so they can avoid further scumhunting.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #240 on: February 17, 2022, 12:23:02 pm »

faust, what do you think about the wagon on e?
It feels quite outdated. The last change to that wagon was what, over 100 posts ago, which is basically half the game. It's the sort of wagon with just enough justification so that people hang on to it so they can avoid further scumhunting.

This is pretty silly. People don't become less scummy because time goes by.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #241 on: February 17, 2022, 12:25:00 pm »

faust, what do you think about the wagon on e?
It feels quite outdated. The last change to that wagon was what, over 100 posts ago, which is basically half the game. It's the sort of wagon with just enough justification so that people hang on to it so they can avoid further scumhunting.
What do you think about e?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #242 on: February 17, 2022, 12:44:24 pm »

faust, what do you think about the wagon on e?
It feels quite outdated. The last change to that wagon was what, over 100 posts ago, which is basically half the game. It's the sort of wagon with just enough justification so that people hang on to it so they can avoid further scumhunting.
What do you think about e?
I think I don't want to vote for him right now.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #243 on: February 17, 2022, 12:51:14 pm »

faust, what do you think about the wagon on e?
It feels quite outdated. The last change to that wagon was what, over 100 posts ago, which is basically half the game. It's the sort of wagon with just enough justification so that people hang on to it so they can avoid further scumhunting.

This is pretty silly. People don't become less scummy because time goes by.
Well that's certainly an opinion. I would say that if a player has behaved scummily for time T and then hasn't behaved scummily between times T and 2T, they are less scummy at time 2T then they were at time T. But maybe you wish to enlighten me about the recent scummy things that e has done.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #244 on: February 17, 2022, 01:41:25 pm »

Being an egg is stressful; at any point I feel like I'm going to crack.

But seriously, I would prefer to know if I'm a PR already, to know how "valuable" I am, and possible to help guide how I read others.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #245 on: February 17, 2022, 02:17:35 pm »

Ok, I'm back.  School went online today (something about bad weather, which I'm not really seeing!), so it was a little less busy than usual.  I'll make multiple posts, quoting things that stood out to me, rather than a giant text-wall like I used to do.  I know these smaller posts look like spam, but make life a lot easier for those who want to reply to what I'm saying (cue gkrieg, MiX, probably e, and maybe a few others), to quote my posts, and especially for those on mobile.

I did enjoy the discussion between faust and joth - it was very enlightening, albeit not very alignment-indicative (pretty much meta for both).  I didn't find some of the responses (I know there was one that said something like "I agree with faust, by the way") to be somewhat pointless and not very helpful, but what can you do.  It is good to know that we have different opinions of what is helpful to share and what is not - then as people are sharing different than what they normally would, we can start to parse out information about why.  All-in-all though, typically day-1 fluff, to look engaged, offer opinions, and yet not move the actual scum-hunting forward.  No town points and no scum points to anyone for that discussion.  (And yes, I realize this post of mine calling it unhelpful is just as unhelpful!)
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #246 on: February 17, 2022, 02:19:07 pm »

scolapasta, were you aware that the game had started?

Ah. Yes, i was aware. But a combination of busy and not knowing what to say made me not post. And then hadn't had s chance to catch up and post anything useful.

I’ve read throughout today but haven’t had much of a chance to contribute. I’ll have time tomorrow though.

Ok, I'm catching up.  Time for a few others to do so!
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #247 on: February 17, 2022, 02:24:56 pm »

Do you find it skumy when people do this?
I find it anti-town. Whether it's scummy depend on context and the individual's meta.

Definitely a huge distinction between just being anti-town and actually being scummy (I used to think they were the same).  The problem is, some people's opinion of that distinction is completely different.  And yes, also dependent on context and individual meeta.
 Take MiX's statement (which I remember reading, but didn't flag for quoting) - saying something along the lines of "I don't know if what I said helps scum or not, and I don't really care" - I'd say definitely anti-town, people may say his meta would say non-alignment-indicative, but I would say it's meta for him to think that but scummy for him to actually say it.

Regardless, +1 point for faust for this post.  Not a scum point and not a town point.  Just a good point.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #248 on: February 17, 2022, 02:31:46 pm »

There's a wagon on e? Haven't noticed. Have we even gotten a VC yet?
How's the wagon on you going, do you think?

I forgot. I think joth's still voting me?

Not only am I not still voting for you, I never voted for you in the first place. Begrudging town points for not paying attention to the game.

I disagree with the "begrudging town points" - I'd give him tentative scum points.  See this comment about e earlier:
On the other hand, e has seemed remarkably calm through a huge wagon growing on him (4 votes now I think?). That's towny for most people. Anyone know e's meta in this kind of thing?

e is savvy enough to sidestep the wagon freakout tell.

e is wise enough not to "fall" for a wagon.  MiX is wise enough to know that "not realizing the votes were where he thought they were" is something people give town-points for on D1.  I wouldn't put it past MiX to abuse this group meta to get town points - something he would be looking to do as scum, but wouldn't need to do as town.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #249 on: February 17, 2022, 02:32:57 pm »

Oh I just noticed that I have a dentist's appointment at the time of the deadline  :(

I have a meeting that starts an hour before the deadline so I may not be around either

Anyone else want to make excuses for being busy at deadline that's still over 4 days away?
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