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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #225 on: January 12, 2022, 10:18:16 am »

But maybe movement is better than no movement.

Vote: Swowl . That is e-1

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #226 on: January 12, 2022, 01:42:43 pm »

Scola:

You moved to Swowl late in the day, I’m assuming to consolidate votes for an Exile? Today, you’ve opened back up by returning to where your vote was before the switch (on Math). Barring any relevant new information, why do you think that exile has more of a chance of going through today than it did yesterday? I don’t really see you making any new arguments for it - or trying to bring up old arguments either.

Correct I fully expected Mix to vote Swowl and had to choose between the two of them. I still liked mathdude as an option better, but realized I suggested it too late on (first) D1. Since (second) D1 had just started thought it made sense to start with my strongest scum read. If no ones joins me and no wagon gets created here, I'll probably go back to swowl. (still preferred to Mix, though now that Mix is less busy, I expect more posts from him)

My read on mathdude is the same as when I first made the vote.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #227 on: January 12, 2022, 01:45:41 pm »

Scola:

You moved to Swowl late in the day, I’m assuming to consolidate votes for an Exile? Today, you’ve opened back up by returning to where your vote was before the switch (on Math). Barring any relevant new information, why do you think that exile has more of a chance of going through today than it did yesterday? I don’t really see you making any new arguments for it - or trying to bring up old arguments either.

Didds, same question to you RE: Scola.

When the day started again, and I looked at the VC from the end of the day, Scola stuck out to me as the person who was not on one of the wagons, which I find a scummy non-committal place to be. That, combined with his posts from the first day made me think k it was worth seeing where that might go.

Yesterday after I posted that I thought we should get on with the exiling (as opposed to dragging out until Friday) I was going to switch my vote to Swowl (who continues not to engage with me which is SUPER weird) but it would have been e-1 so I held off.

Um, I switched to Swowl (having announced my intent even before) about 30 minutes before deadline. That said, the VCA did have me listed as twice, with both my old mathdude vote and my swowl vote. It has since been corrected.

But had you been paying attention at the end of (first) d1, you would definitely have known I was on one of the wagons. (only Mix wasn't).
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #228 on: January 12, 2022, 02:00:14 pm »

EFHW, MiX, Swowl & gkrieg - You were all voting by the end of day yesterday. You’re not voting now. What’s changed? Who do you think is scum?

personally, I voted mix for self prez and iirc I already said why I am not on that anymore.

It does feel like a new day for me because of EOD1. I recognize that I am also responsible for the no exile, but scola, math and gkrieg were all on at that time, so I'm curious why none of them voted to ensure an exile.

scola's explanation doesn't really work for me:
I fully expected MiX would come in and hammer. Then I expected, based on his post, that mathdude would hammer. I didn't see any reason to switch away from swowl at the time.

Usually getting an exile is enough of a reason to switch on Day 1.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #229 on: January 12, 2022, 02:50:58 pm »

EFHW, MiX, Swowl & gkrieg - You were all voting by the end of day yesterday. You’re not voting now. What’s changed? Who do you think is scum?

personally, I voted mix for self prez and iirc I already said why I am not on that anymore.

It does feel like a new day for me because of EOD1. I recognize that I am also responsible for the no exile, but scola, math and gkrieg were all on at that time, so I'm curious why none of them voted to ensure an exile.

scola's explanation doesn't really work for me:
I fully expected MiX would come in and hammer. Then I expected, based on his post, that mathdude would hammer. I didn't see any reason to switch away from swowl at the time.

Usually getting an exile is enough of a reason to switch on Day 1.

Why doesn't work for you? I posted intent to vote swowl at 12:37 and followed through at 13:00.

MiX posted at 11:40 that he was around. I did think he'd vote for swowl after my vote, but sure it wasn't guaranteed. If that was the only reason I had I probably would've switched.

BUT, mathdude's response to me, 5 minutes later:

Vote: Swowl

That's X-1 on Swowl now too. MiX is left.
I'm willing to switch my vote if MiX doesn't show up soon.

This seemed definite enough to me that it would happen, especially considering his earlier sentiment that we should definitely exile. So it didn't even occur to me that I should switch as I assumed mathdude would post within those 25 minutes. I guess at 1:25 or later I could've tried to be around in case that didn't happen.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #230 on: January 12, 2022, 04:34:00 pm »

EFHW, MiX, Swowl & gkrieg - You were all voting by the end of day yesterday. You’re not voting now. What’s changed? Who do you think is scum?

personally, I voted mix for self prez and iirc I already said why I am not on that anymore.

It does feel like a new day for me because of EOD1. I recognize that I am also responsible for the no exile, but scola, math and gkrieg were all on at that time, so I'm curious why none of them voted to ensure an exile.

scola's explanation doesn't really work for me:
I fully expected MiX would come in and hammer. Then I expected, based on his post, that mathdude would hammer. I didn't see any reason to switch away from swowl at the time.

Usually getting an exile is enough of a reason to switch on Day 1.

In hindsight, knowing I was busy with family, I should have just hammered. I did want to give MiX or others a chance to provide final comments. Shouldn't have done that.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #231 on: January 12, 2022, 04:36:46 pm »

Actually, I'd like to see MiX hammer Swowl. That could give a little more validation to his claim that he forgot about the game, rather than the feeling I'm getting that he just didn't want ro hammer.

I'd hammer Swowl myself right now (for similar reason), but I'm already on wagon.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #232 on: January 12, 2022, 05:14:44 pm »

Happy BDay Thelma!

I see no value in claiming in a bastard game, so probably not going to do that.

Everyone that is on me should, prior to hammer, have to publicly state why they are on me. My case is a lazy attempt and I honestly can’t believe some people are so hard set on it - but all in good fun and it’s a BM so i don’t mind being the exile for the day.

Vote: Galz

If i had to baller guess a pairing rn it would be Galz and Awaclus/GK.

I do really think people should have to state why they like my wagon before hammer though, just because most are hiding behind a weak initial case that is not actually accurate 100% - I know that sounds omgusy but i think pretty much my wagon is skum and lazy - so if you are being lazy take a moment to think about why i am your choice, and if you’re skum, we’ll then whatever town should force you to do it.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #233 on: January 12, 2022, 05:19:32 pm »

That is not what Awaclus meant by the word "buddy".

What did I mean by it?
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #234 on: January 12, 2022, 05:21:08 pm »

Everyone that is on me should, prior to hammer, have to publicly state why they are on me.

That doesn't sound like a good idea and fortunately I have the power to prevent it from taking place. Vote: Swowl
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #235 on: January 12, 2022, 05:38:05 pm »

That is not what Awaclus meant by the word "buddy".

What did I mean by it?

Not anything related to buddying, which is how math took it.

Was Swowl just hammered? Guess I'll take the night to get real reads then.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #236 on: January 12, 2022, 05:49:44 pm »

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #237 on: January 12, 2022, 05:57:09 pm »

Everyone that is on me should, prior to hammer, have to publicly state why they are on me.

That doesn't sound like a good idea and fortunately I have the power to prevent it from taking place. Vote: Swowl

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #238 on: January 12, 2022, 09:12:40 pm »

Phil finds it hard to even give his usual level of effort in his Groundhog's Day broadcast. He gathers Rita and Larry at the diner. What could be happening? Why is it today again? Of course, no one believes him.

Vote Count 1.2

mathdude (1): scolapasta
Swowl (4): Galzria, mathdude, WestCoastDidds, Awaclus
Galzria (1): Swowl

Not voting (3): EFHW, MiX, gkrieg13

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to exile.

Day 1 ends at 2:30 pm ET on January 15th.

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #239 on: January 12, 2022, 09:17:11 pm »

But maybe movement is better than no movement.

Vote: Swowl . That is e-1

Also, it’s my birthday! Have some cake for me today, y’all!

This was not e-1, this was e-2.

Guess that means time for a reread! Or a read, rather. I have not paid attention at all.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #240 on: January 12, 2022, 09:18:09 pm »

That is e-1

How could you do this? I trusted you!

Also happy birthday.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #241 on: January 12, 2022, 09:21:19 pm »

I was going to do this in my big reread post but I might forget so

Happy birthday Didds!!!!!!
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #242 on: January 12, 2022, 09:47:02 pm »

That is e-1

How could you do this? I trusted you!

Also happy birthday.

Apologies! I was distracted. Simple arithmetic, apparently, is not my jam.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #243 on: January 12, 2022, 11:16:24 pm »

That is e-1

How could you do this? I trusted you!

Also happy birthday.

Apologies! I was distracted. Simple arithmetic, apparently, is not my jam.

We'll excuse it only because it's your birthday! Hope you've had a fun day.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #244 on: January 13, 2022, 01:48:59 am »

I do really think people should have to state why they like my wagon before hammer though
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #245 on: January 13, 2022, 08:23:21 am »

Phil finds it hard to even give his usual level of effort in his Groundhog's Day broadcast. He gathers Rita and Larry at the diner. What could be happening? Why is it today again? Of course, no one believes him.

Wait a minute, the main character and the groundhog have the same name? I never noticed that!
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #246 on: January 13, 2022, 08:28:52 am »

scola's answer works better now that he spelled it out.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #247 on: January 13, 2022, 08:33:53 am »

vote: Galzria.  I'll have to blame his silver tongue for my being persuaded by his case on Swowl. Or I was being lazy.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #248 on: January 13, 2022, 02:42:14 pm »

Why are people not interested in exiling Swowl?

Can someone explain the case on Galz?

Let's get an exile going.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #249 on: January 13, 2022, 04:24:47 pm »

Galz's case is no longer relevant. Swowl has done a lot more since then. How do you feel he has been scummy since Galz made his case?
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