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Weekly Design Contest 127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words

Design a card that matches the theme of one of the 3 pictures below.


In this contest, you will be tasked to come up with a card that will thematically match one of the 3 suggested pictures. The pictures all come from artist Tomasz Jedruszek. His material can be found on Artstation. A very talented fellow with inspiring art, I believe he has that magic touch that very-well fit within the legacy of Dominion. Here are the 3 pieces of art in question, with links below them toward ShardOfHonor’s card maker with the picture well-adjusted to the card frame:

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You can do whatever with these pictures. Name your card as you wish, price it as your heart desires and give it the best effect you can think of. And hey, make it any type you want too. So long as everything is bundled as a cohesive card. Like, if you take the first picture and name it “Mountain”, I’ll probably give the win to someone else :P . So take that into account, because judging will look at that aspect, alongside the balance of the card. The usual, more or less.

Some extra rules include:
  • The pictures are better formatted to fit a vertical, normal card (that’s debatable, but w/e). So exceptionally, to honour the challenge of this week, no landscapes please. Say no to Events, Landmarks, Projects and Ways.
  • If you're not going to use the card generator and simply want to write what your card does, please specify which art it would use. In most cases, I know this'll be obvious given the name of your card, but let's make it extra clear just in case.
  • I suppose if you’re feeling extra creative, you may use 2 or all 3 pictures to do something like a split pile or a mix pile. Or even use one of them as an out-of-Supply card à la Mercenary. If you do that, it will be up to you to find creative ways to thematically link the cards together. You may even do a mini 3-card Traveller line if you’re into that. Of course, just using one card is probably the simpler, safer bet here.
I will try my gosh darn best to do the judging on next Tuesday (21-09-07) around 8:00 PM… but we all know how it goes with my systematic delays. Sorry in advance if that’s the case…! Still, have fun, and do ask any questions if you’re unsure about stuff.



As a quick side note, I apologize to those for which I misjudged their cards last time (contest 122, the draw-to-X one). Re-reading it, I can see I made some bad mistakes in my judging. Please, don't let that deter you from submitting in this thread. You know what they say: people learn from their mistakes. So with that in mind, hopefully, I will do a more satisfactory job this week. :P
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2021, 09:46:42 am »
+2

This uses the first (boat) image, if the mockup doesn't show up (and please let me know if the mockup doesn't show, trello is changing some things and it's real annoying.)

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Knarr • $6 • Action - Duration
Now and at the start of your next turn: Gain a card costing up to $4 and set it aside on this.
At the start of your turn after next: Put the set aside cards onto your deck (in any order).

Sort of a Captain but for gains. Slower, really, and has the potential to Haunt you if you do it with victory cards. A Knarr is a type of viking ship capable of travelling across open ocean.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2021, 12:12:18 pm »
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Inspired by the colour scheme of the image, I decided to go with an Action-Duration-Reaction card:



The top half is fairly straightforward.  You can play it now as a Lab or as a duration to start your next turn with +2 Cards, +2 Actions. 

It comes with a Black Cat-like Reaction whereby if another player gains a Victory card, you can trash Paladin from your hand for +5 Cards. 

Feedback on balance would be welcome.  I don't think it can cost $5, but it seemed a bit weak for $6 without the Reaction.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2021, 04:36:27 pm »
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My Submission:


Quote from: Bastion
BASTION

[Card art shows a large castle or fortress in the middle distance. It has several towers and other structures, with light-colored brick and a red roof. Behind the structure in the far distance are mountains. The sky is light blue with a few white, fluffy clouds. A path marked by posts connected with a chain runs from the foreground out of frame, then reappears connected to a bridge.]

+1 Card
+2 Actions
Exile a card from your hand. If it's a Victory card, Exile this.

$4
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A twist on Hideout, Bastion is a village that thins your deck, Exiling cards instead of trashing them. As with Hideout, there is a penalty if you try to thin a Victory card (here, self-Exiling, rather than gaining a Curse), and the potential to mitigate that penalty (buying another Bastion, rather than trashing the Curse with Hideout). Or, if you don't need the +Actions, you could leave it in Exile.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2021, 06:41:06 pm »
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Northern Regiment - $4
Action - Attack
+1 Action
+$1
Gain a Horse onto your deck
Each other player discards down to 2 cards in hand, then gains a Horse to their hand.

A mix between a Peddler and a Militia. The attack is close to the same as Urchin as it sets all other players up with their best 2 cards and a Horse in Hand. The Peddler effect is delayed as you gain the Horse to the top of your deck. Playing multiple copies of this in a single turn could potentially "fix" a dead hand an opponent had, so I don't think it is a very oppressive attack and the Peddler effect requires either a horse or other non-terminal draw to be in hand. I want to price it at $4, but it may be too cheap just for the Peddler effect. Feedback is appreciated.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2021, 07:36:57 pm »
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A Village that Catacombs-ifies your next draw. Same name as emtzalex's entry, I know, but the prompt kinda limits the design space as far as names go.

Edit 1: Increased price to as suggested by people on Discord.

Edit 2: Reverted price back to .
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2021, 07:45:21 pm »
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A Village that Catacombs-ifies your next draw. Same name as emtzalex's entry, I know, but the prompt kinda limits the design space as far as names go.

The prompt, and the fact that Keep, Fortress, Tower, Citadel, and Castle (sort of) are already taken.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2021, 08:33:48 pm »
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Castle Town
cost $4 - Action - Reaction
+1 Card
+2 Action
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When you trash a card, you may discard this to put that card into your discard pile.


EDIT: picture 3
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2021, 05:53:37 am »
+1

Using picture 1

Longboat
Action - Attack - Duration
$6

Each other player with 5 or more cards in their hand discards 2 of them.

Now and at the start of your next turn +2 Cards
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2021, 01:29:16 pm »
+6



Action ($5)
Centurion

+3 Cards
You may discard an Action card for +$2.

A simple Smithy variant that gives you a little compensation if it draws something dead. It can also be used to counter Looters (kinda) or to give some extra income if you've drawn your deck already. Oh, and it kicks butt with Village Green :P
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2021, 01:57:18 pm »
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Picture 1. 
Galley
$6
Action - Duration
Now, and at the start of your next turn, you may Exile a non-Province card from your hand for +2 Cards.
 
“Non-Province” is inelegant, but prevents it from supporting a simple “golden deck” that buys and Exiles a province each turn.

Edit: link to this card per the card generator is here. That reminds me, all of the artwork for this contest is excellent artwork, which makes it fun to mock up the cards.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2021, 02:14:20 pm »
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Templar
$4 - Action - Attack
+1 Action
Each player including you looks at the top card of their deck,
they may trash it or put it back.
Each other player gains a Curse onto their deck.



Nonterminal curser? Yes but with self-limiting damage and self-repair. Costs $4 to make it accessible at 4-3.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2021, 10:52:57 pm »
+1

Entry withdrawn. Working on a new idea.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2021, 11:12:11 pm »
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Embark
Event
You may set aside an Action card from your hand. At the start of your next turn, play it.

I might be missing something (and believe me, it's been happening a lot to me lately), but isn't this just Delay, except it now costs $3?
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2021, 11:57:08 pm »
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Here's my entry this week. Greatship is a Duration card that stays out indefinitely, until you gain another one. When you play it, you earn some VP that scales based on how many Greatships you have in play, and then you get a Key effect on your subsequent duration turns. There's a whole lot of VP and money that can be had here if you go for Greatships, however the discard copies on gain, and the fact that these are terminal stop cards make it difficult to stack them quickly. There's a bit of push your luck in the endgame of trying to decide if you have the draw, Actions, and time to gain one more and get another chunk of VP for playing all your Greatships again.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2021, 11:58:33 pm »
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Embark
Event
You may set aside an Action card from your hand. At the start of your next turn, play it.

I might be missing something (and believe me, it's been happening a lot to me lately), but isn't this just Delay, except it now costs $3?

You aren't, it is exactly just Delay for instead of .
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2021, 01:38:09 am »
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This submission is OUT OF DATE. Please see the updated version


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Stronghold | Victory | $4
Worth 2vp if you have the most copies of this at the end of the game.
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When you gain this, gain an Action card costing up to $5

Sort of like if Banquet costed 4 and only junked 1 card instead, and could only gain Action cards. Sometimes it is worth to rush 5, and then perhaps you can trash your Stronghold. Although, you may want to hold on to them, at the end of the game they could be worth something. Is it worth hanging on to the junk?
Designed this with two tensions -- a card that junks you to get a $5 is something you are likely to get in the opening, but victory cards you only want in the ending, so what do you do? Your choice! You may want to rush these to get that decisive VP lead, but a tie means no one gets the bonus points.

The Action card restriction prevents infinite loop, and also prevents IGG rush which would make this laughably powerful and un-fun.

Open to feedback

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2021, 07:56:29 am »
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Stronghold | Victory | $4
Worth 2vp if you have the most copies of this at the end of the game.
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When you gain this, gain an Action card costing up to $5

Sort of like if Banquet costed 4 and only junked 1 card instead, and could only gain Action cards. Sometimes it is worth to rush 5, and then perhaps you can trash your Stronghold. Although, you may want to hold on to them, at the end of the game they could be worth something. Is it worth hanging on to the junk?
Designed this with two tensions -- a card that junks you to get a $5 is something you are likely to get in the opening, but victory cards you only want in the ending, so what do you do? Your choice! You may want to rush these to get that decisive VP lead, but a tie means no one gets the bonus points.

The Action card restriction prevents infinite loop, and also prevents IGG rush which would make this laughably powerful and un-fun.

Open to feedback

I like the idea behind the card.  One potential concern is that this would make a rush too easy on something like a Groom board, since you can use Groom to empty two piles simultaneously.  Otherwise, I like this as a way to cheaply gain $5 cost cards.

P.S. I think you used the wrong symbol for the VP icon in the card image generator. 
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2021, 09:41:08 am »
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Embark
Event
You may set aside an Action card from your hand. At the start of your next turn, play it.

I might be missing something (and believe me, it's been happening a lot to me lately), but isn't this just Delay, except it now costs $3?

You aren't, it is exactly just Delay for instead of .

You are both correct. I don't spend money on Dominion Online (nothing against it, I just vastly prefer in-person play), and I haven't had menagerie for very long, so I didn't realize that card already existed. Sorry folks, I'll think of something new.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2021, 09:46:53 am »
+1

You are both correct. I don't spend money on Dominion Online (nothing against it, I just vastly prefer in-person play), and I haven't had menagerie for very long, so I didn't realize that card already existed. Sorry folks, I'll think of something new.

Also, just a quick note on how Landscape cards are exceptionally not accepted for this week's contest, sorry!


Castle Town
cost $4 - Action - Reaction
+1 Card
+2 Action
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When you trash a card, you may discard this to put that card into your discard pile.

Just to make sure, this is using picture 3, right?
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2021, 12:04:43 pm »
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Stronghold | Victory | $4
Worth 2vp if you have the most copies of this at the end of the game.
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When you gain this, gain an Action card costing up to $5
P.S. I think you used the wrong symbol for the VP icon in the card image generator. 

Timinou is correct. I believe you used the VP token symbol, which (in Shard of Honor's excellent new fork of Violet CLM's also excellent card image generator) you get by using a #. Official cards use the VP symbol, (which you get by using a %), both for indicating the VP value of Victory cards (see Gardens) and in awarding VP tokens (see Temple). I made this mistake (along with several others) the first time I submitted to the contest.

You also put the special character before the number, which puts the number inside the symbol, something you want to do for Coins (using $) and Debt (using @), but not for VP, which displays the number to the left of the symbol (see the previous examples).

Thus, in the editor it should be "Worth 2% if you have the most..." rather than "Worth #2 if you have the most...." which (I believe) is what it is now.


I would also add that "...if you have the most copies of this at the end of the game" is potentially ambiguous when two players tie for the most (this only matters in 3+ player games). Keep resolves this with the less ambiguous "you have more copies of than each other player, or tied for most."
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2021, 07:18:58 pm »
+1

You are both correct. I don't spend money on Dominion Online (nothing against it, I just vastly prefer in-person play), and I haven't had menagerie for very long, so I didn't realize that card already existed. Sorry folks, I'll think of something new.

Also, just a quick note on how Landscape cards are exceptionally not accepted for this week's contest, sorry!


Castle Town
cost $4 - Action - Reaction
+1 Card
+2 Action
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When you trash a card, you may discard this to put that card into your discard pile.

Just to make sure, this is using picture 3, right?
Right. I forgot to write.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2021, 07:13:30 am »
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Stronghold | Victory | $4
Worth 2vp if you have the most copies of this at the end of the game.
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When you gain this, gain an Action card costing up to $5

Sort of like if Banquet costed 4 and only junked 1 card instead, and could only gain Action cards. Sometimes it is worth to rush 5, and then perhaps you can trash your Stronghold. Although, you may want to hold on to them, at the end of the game they could be worth something. Is it worth hanging on to the junk?
Designed this with two tensions -- a card that junks you to get a $5 is something you are likely to get in the opening, but victory cards you only want in the ending, so what do you do? Your choice! You may want to rush these to get that decisive VP lead, but a tie means no one gets the bonus points.

The Action card restriction prevents infinite loop, and also prevents IGG rush which would make this laughably powerful and un-fun.

Open to feedback
So thinking about game plans:
- rushdown: Pretty potent
- Midgame rush: Get an provice and suplements them with this
- quick fix for an five: nice balance
- supplementary victory points and at the start of the endgame (doens't clog your deck to an halt as fast as VP Cards). Okey

But why do you need the "if you have the most copies of this at the end of the game." instead of just: "2 VP" What are you trying to prevent?
- In an rushdown the one who had the most wins anyway
- Midgame rush: Nobody is going to join in.
- Quick Fix: For many players it aint vicotry points, but just an dead card
- Suplementary victory points: Does discourage that expect for the first player who starts with it

So it feels like it descourages certain play paterns
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2021, 02:37:18 pm »
+1

Using picture 3...

Eyrie (Action, $5)

+4 Cards
You may discard 2 Cards, for +1 Action.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2021, 02:56:55 pm »
+8

Using picture 3...

Eyrie (Action, $5)

+4 Cards
You may discard 2 Cards, for +1 Action.

If you choose the discard option, this is already a better effect than Laboratory. And it can also give +4 cards as a terminal. So it has to cost $6.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2021, 08:01:38 pm »
+5

Well since just about every synonym for Castle has been taken either by the default game or with the submissions here, I guess I'll go with:

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2021, 02:21:23 am »
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Stronghold | Victory | $4
Worth 2vp if you have the most copies of this at the end of the game.
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When you gain this, gain an Action card costing up to $5

Sort of like if Banquet costed 4 and only junked 1 card instead, and could only gain Action cards. Sometimes it is worth to rush 5, and then perhaps you can trash your Stronghold. Although, you may want to hold on to them, at the end of the game they could be worth something. Is it worth hanging on to the junk?
Designed this with two tensions -- a card that junks you to get a $5 is something you are likely to get in the opening, but victory cards you only want in the ending, so what do you do? Your choice! You may want to rush these to get that decisive VP lead, but a tie means no one gets the bonus points.

The Action card restriction prevents infinite loop, and also prevents IGG rush which would make this laughably powerful and un-fun.

Open to feedback

I feel like the victory clause will prevent people to use it in an third way: suplementary vp in games in an normal game or in an slog, giving this only to the player who already chose to buy 2.

I think that giving it 1 vp flat still gives you all the play you discribed and more. Even rushes become more dynamic where an duchy really matters.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2021, 03:10:21 am »
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Using picture 3...

Eyrie (Action, $5)

+4 Cards
You may discard 2 Cards, for +1 Action.

If you choose the discard option, this is already a better effect than Laboratory. And it can also give +4 cards as a terminal. So it has to cost $6.

Wasn’t sure initially if it should cost $5 or $6 - will modify it.

Eyrie (Action, $6)

+4 Cards
You may discard 2 Cards, for +1 Action.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2021, 04:46:29 am »
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Conqueror

Action - $5
You may play a cheaper Action from your hand three times. If you didn't, gain a Horse

(Uses the "Soldier with a cape on a horse in the desert leading an army" art)

Edit: Changed from "gain 2 Horses" to "gain a Horse". Haven't had the chance to update the art yet.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2021, 01:52:17 pm »
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Similar to Horses these cards would be handed out via events, gain effects on action cards, and such...

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Longship (Night - Duration, $3*)
At the start of your next turn, +2 Cards. Return this to its pile.
(This is not in the Supply.)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2021, 10:06:19 pm »
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Similar to Horses these cards would be handed out via events, gain effects on action cards, and such...

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At the start of your next turn, +2 Cards. Return this to its pile.
(This is not in the Supply.)

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2021, 06:33:43 am »
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Picture 2 works really nicely with this idea from my desert-themed expansion, so that's a nice coincidence:


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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2021, 01:52:33 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2021, 09:50:18 pm »
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In the theme of Haunted Woods and Swamp Hag, this is less damaging than Swamp Hag.  But it does hit Action-gaining opponents with Coppers which they most likely don't need, and it also reduces the points that Victory cards are worth.  The 2 cards to start the next turn is a pretty good kickstart to that turn too.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2021, 06:11:44 am »
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Stronghold - $3
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Clarification: This stays in play until the next turn if you did not play an Attack after playing it, and otherwise is discarded on the same turn.
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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2021, 10:41:24 am »
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Stronghold - $3
Action/Duration

+2 Actions
The first time any player (including you) plays an Attack before the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.

Clarification: This stays in play until the next turn if you did not play an Attack after playing it, and otherwise is discarded on the same turn.

I don't think it's clear whether you get the +2 Cards before or after the Attack is resolved.
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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2021, 10:47:26 am »
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Stronghold - $3
Action/Duration

+2 Actions
The first time any player (including you) plays an Attack before the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.

Clarification: This stays in play until the next turn if you did not play an Attack after playing it, and otherwise is discarded on the same turn.

I don't think it's clear whether you get the +2 Cards before or after the Attack is resolved.
No? I figure when-X effects always happen before X. This is like a when-play effect. But I guess official cards tend to come with the "first" for clarification.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2021, 10:49:00 am »
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Updated entry
Not to be confused with the action  duration Stronghold that is currently being discussed. This is an update to my submission 5 days ago which was the first card named Stronghold submitted


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Stronghold | Victory | $4
Worth 2% if copies of Strongholds make up less than half of all your Victory cards.
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When you gain this, gain an Action card costing up to $5

Thank you for the feedback Timinou, emtzalex, lompeluiten, and lompeluiten (again).

lompeluiten's thoughts in particular made me think about the different uses of this card. I decided to weaken the rush. If you rush Strongholds, well, you still need a bunch of other victory cards, otherwise they are all worth 0. Imagine someone rushing the Strongholds, rushing the estates, then the other player gains two estates. Now the rusher has 14 Junk cards (8 strong holds, 6 estates) and currently, only 6 points. They have to gain 3 duchies to activate strongholds and that's too slow, the not Junk-ed player will probably be able to out score them now.

For non rush players, the top of the card essentially says 2vp. And I like that. There's also games in which you do a sneaky 3-pile in a way that makes your Strongholds activated, but your opponents' strongholds not.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2021, 12:12:18 pm »
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Stronghold - $3
Action/Duration

+2 Actions
The first time any player (including you) plays an Attack before the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.

Clarification: This stays in play until the next turn if you did not play an Attack after playing it, and otherwise is discarded on the same turn.

I don't think it's clear whether you get the +2 Cards before or after the Attack is resolved.
No? I figure when-X effects always happen before X. This is like a when-play effect. But I guess official cards tend to come with the "first" for clarification.

When-gain and when-buy both happen AFTER gaining/buying, respectively. And all official cards that trigger from something being played either say "when a card is played, first X" or "after a card is played, X," for clarity's sake.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2021, 08:50:27 pm »
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Submissions closed

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2021, 06:45:25 am »
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When-gain and when-buy both happen AFTER gaining/buying, respectively. And all official cards that trigger from something being played either say "when a card is played, first X" or "after a card is played, X," for clarity's sake.
Ah, you are right of course, I had some sort of brainfart. Unfortunately it is too late to change now. I guess the submitted version would resolve after the attack. Which makes it slightly stronger (against discard attacks), but also more tricky to remember.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2021, 03:58:05 pm »
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Well, looks like I won't be able to make it today after all. But there's always tomorrow! All in all, sorry about those systematic delays. I try not to get there. It's hard to try to catch all those curveballs life tends to throw at you. :P
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« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2021, 05:02:11 am »
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Using picture 3...

Eyrie (Action, $5)

+4 Cards
You may discard 2 Cards, for +1 Action.

If you choose the discard option, this is already a better effect than Laboratory. And it can also give +4 cards as a terminal. So it has to cost $6.

Wasn’t sure initially if it should cost $5 or $6 - will modify it.

Eyrie (Action, $6)

+4 Cards
You may discard 2 Cards, for +1 Action.

I like the simplicity of this card, it could have been in the base game (or maybe Intrigue, due to the choice).  :D

With regard to the pricing, Eyrie gives you the choice between playing it as either a Hunting Grounds, or as a Lab+Forum in one card. And you get to make the choice AFTER you know which cards you draw, a huge advantage.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2021, 07:33:42 pm »
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CONTEST 127 RESULTS

Finally, here it is! Judging time. So first of all, ever since WDC have become self-contained in threads, this competition holds the title of least amount of posts (at least, at the time of this judging). To me, this tell that perhaps the challenge imposed here was kind of a whiff. We still have entries, so it’s not all bad. Still, I’d like to apologize if the restrictions put forth this week were too hard, or too uninteresting, etc.

One thing I’ve noted is that most of the entries here are pretty expensive cards. We have lots of and cards. Big ones! And for something really cool: We have exactly 6 cards for each picture! So let’s jump right in.




First, we’ll take a look at the Boaty Mc.Boatface cards:

Knarr (Action – Duration)
Now and at the start of your next turn: Gain a card costing up to and set it aside on this.
At the start of your turn after next: Put the set aside cards onto your deck (in any order).
Heh, I actually tried to do something pretty similar to this in a hypothetical fan expansion of mine. To be fair, I’d prefer if it was Crypt-like. As in, it gains and sets aside 2 cards onto itself when you play it, and while any remains, at the start of each of your turns, put one of those cards onto your deck. Functionally, it wouldn’t be the same. Cards would be slowly gained over 2 turns instead of them being gained together onto your deck 2 turns later. But I think tracking wise, this could be more elegant like this. Anyway, this is just an idea. As it is, Knarr seems pretty elegant power wise. I’d spike to get that orange boat for sure.

Longboat (Action – Attack – Duration)
Each other player with 5 or more cards in hand discards 2 of them.
Now and at the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.
I can see why this is priced at . This card is certainly no joke. A wharf that substitutes its Buys for a Militia Attack. Oh speaking of the Attack, I wonder if it should have simply told other players to discard down to 3 cards in hand. The only difference here is that it hurts less very few stuff like Expedition and the Flag Artifact. Anyway. So this card is a pretty good counter to itself, but not enough to bring a boring monolithic “well, you bought a Longboat, now I have to buy one too” experience. While the punitive nature of this card might prevent other players to acquire Longboats of their own, creating a considerable lead to whoever could fire off the Attack first, so too does Goons. So I think all in all, I’m fine with this being a thing.

Galley (Action – Duration)
Now and at the start of your next turn, you may Exile a non-Province card from your hand for +2 Cards.
I’d suggest having the “other than Province” wording instead of “non-Province”, it rolls off the tongue better. This card is extremely strong I believe. Draw + thin was always considered incredibly good in Dominion. See Recruiter and Masquerade. Here, it does it twice at the cost of one Action. This is an incredible deal and you’d better believe I’ll try my gosh darn best to spike . The fact that it can safely tuck away green cards (save for Province) is also a massive boon. Surely this will encourage Alt- strategies in slower games. This might fall into the whole Sanctuary conundrum that some people dislike, as it alters massively the greening stage (it becomes inconsequential whereas greening should, by design, slow winners more). This isn’t that big of a deal to me personally, but this might be something to keep in mind.

Greatship (Action – Duration)
+1 per Greatship you have in play. + at the start of each of your turns this is in play.
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When you gain this, discard all Greatships you have in play.
I think the wording needs a “while” somewhere to make sure the comes in as long as it’s not discarded. This is… an interesting card, whew! We have not seen something quite like this in Dominion. It reminds me of Stockpile a little bit, where it self-Exiles on-play, but re-enters your deck when you gain a copy of it. I think that this is overall quite slow. I have not crunched the numbers myself, but I feel like you can simply make more economy and through Monument, which is cheaper and more straightforward. Otherwise, over-investing in Greatship, which is kind of what the card wants, seems like a very high opportunity cost. Still, I do appreciate the minigame presented here. We have not seen much stuff like this ever since Empires with Temple and Farmer’s Market.

Longship (Action – Duration)
Now and at the start of your nex turn, +1 Action and draw until you have 6 cards in hand.
I’ve playtested a similar card before. It played nicely and was unique in the sense that Duration draw-to-X was a pretty novel concept. Longship tries that idea too, and it still remains a good idea in my book. I mean, last time I judged one of these contests, I made Sheriff the winner, and Sheriff was a now and next turn draw-to-X card as well. The intricacies of Longship make this a worthy card. For instance, assuming a 5-card hand, the first copy of it you play is a Lab+. After that, they’re all half-turn cantrips. Unless you make a good draw-to-X deck, for which Longship is very well suited. It might join the rank of Cursed Village among the best draw-to-X cards in Dominion.

Longship (Night – Duration)
At the start of your next turn, +2 Cards. Return this to its pile.
(This is not in the Supply.)
Interesting idea! I did not expect an out-of-Supply card in this contest, but you made something pretty appealing here. This is a nice addition to Horses, Villagers and Coffers. Here, it’s a bigger next turn handsize “token”, which I think is a reasonable thing to do. While functionally different, I wonder if it could’ve simply afforded to be an Action card with a +1 Action slapped on it. Yeah yeah, there’s the whole “draw dead” business, but Horses manage just fine.

As a side note: I find it just a tad disappointing how thematically, this is a Night card, yet the art shows a boat in a beautiful and sunny day.



Next up, we will check the horsie dude cards:

Paladin (Action – Duration – Reaction)
Either now or at the start of your next turn, +2 Cards and +1 Action.
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When another player gains a Victory card, you may trash this from your hand for +5 Cards.
Okay, so we have the “either now or at the start of your next turn […]” Village (Village Green) and Smithy+ (Barge). Late to the family reunion, Paladin makes a dramatic entry! Maybe I’m being overly verbose, but what I essentially mean is, I think it’s a beautiful addition among those 2 cards. Village Green costs , Barge costs and Paladin costs . There is some beautiful symmetry at hand here. So the top part is appealing to me. Perhaps very strong in nature, I can still definitely see this as a worthy addition to Dominion.

As for the Reaction, it’s unquestionably unique. I will admit that trashing an expensive card is a little oof however. I mean, I get it. People are greening and you want to spike. So bring on the big draw! I will definitely consider doing that way more often than the almost entirely pointless Reaction of Fool’s Gold. To draw 5 cards, I suppose it makes sense that Paladin should remove itself from your deck, but man. That beautiful Lab you were going to use on your turn could’ve done the job too. Only after you draw will you become smug; or full of regrets, haha!

Northern Regiment (Action – Attack)
+1 Action
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Gain a Horse onto your deck.
Each other player discards down to 2 cards in hand, then gains a Horse to their hand.
Hmmm. So the non-Attack stuff is pretty much Supplies. It does the same. It’s kind of like Candlestick Maker vs Ducat. So, Supplies is already a strong card. I think this is already better than it, because lots of stuff in Dominion prefers Action-heavy decks. But Northern Regiment is also more expensive, so you can’t add them to your deck as quickly as you could with Supplies and extra Buys.

That leaves us with the Attack as the major different component. It’s a pretty unique discarding Attack. Stacked 3 times (which its non-terminality should help with), it actually increases your opponents’ handsize. In 3 or 4 player games, if multiple players open with Northern Regiment, it’s to their detriment, as it will eventually start being helpful toward your competition. So again, pretty unique in that regard.

Centurion (Action)
+3 Cards
You may discard an Action card for +.
Very nice! This card definitely is on the simpler side. This is mostly a good thing, because it is super easy to assess at first glance. And because it’s not overly intricate, it ain’t as big of a headscratcher. I don’t think we’ll ever find a player that goes “how the hell am I going to add this to my deck” in the face of Centurion. Because here, the idea is immediately apparent: You drew into Action cards, you have no more Actions left, bam, here’s a soft terminal to help you mitigate that situation. It’s a very feelsgood moment. Perhaps even more than playing dead Werewolves in your Night phase. I think the only minuscule and barely apparent negative thing I could say here is that perhaps the mechanic of Centurion is a little similar-ish to Vault? It’s really not that big of a deal.

Templar (Action – Attack)
+1 Action
Each player (including you) looks at the top card of their deck, then may trash it or put it back.
Each other player gains a Curse onto their deck.
The fixed version of Sea Hag. Quick, send this prototype to Donald X! I kid, I kid, but this really is a neat way to exploit the whole “Curse to deck” business. Here, it works half the time, which is a good way to mitigate the anger of getting a Curse onto your deck. Unlike Sea Hag, this gives a bonus when played, thank God! It’s a weird Zombie Spy/Duchess hybrid and I don’t dislike this. It’s very elegant how that bonus is directly tied-in with the Attack. I don’t know about the +1 Action, but I suppose this could work. I can definitely see people all opening Templar. You thin while you junk. Not much besides Ambassador does that. Well done!

Conqueror (Action)
You may play a cheaper Action card from your hand 3 times. If you didn’t, gain a Horse.
Whoa! King’s Court that does not have access to those beautiful cards. But who’s to say King’s Courting a Smithy is bad? Or what about a Horse, that seems pretty doable too. Although, that implies that you had to play Conqueror for a Horse, which is really, really bad for . No, being limited in what you can triple is not the problem here. The real problem is being unable to chain Conquerors. This takes a really big slice out of what makes King’s Court just so damn powerful. I can see Conqueror being totally worth it. It can be the Village you need, for instance. Or it can provide that massive draw you need. But man. The chaining. It’s all about the chaining.

Heh, I wonder if it should unconditionally give players a Horse. Yes, on top of playing a card 3 times. Honestly, I’d test both versions.

Mounted Vandal (Action – Duration – Attack)
At the start of your next turn, +2 Cards. Until then, when another player gains an Action card, they gain a Copper; and when they gain a Victory card, they gain a Curse.
The thing about Swamp Hag is… well first, people tend to dislike it, as it makes you fight every instinct that tells you to buy a card. Which is kind of what Dominion is all about. But I digress. Swamp Hag is a thing, which means that Mounted Vandal has a working model it can base itself upon. Oh yeah, the other thing about Swamp Hag. It only ever dispatches Curses. The Curse pile runs out in games. The Copper pile does not. There are a lot of Coppers in the pile. With Mounted Vandal, I fear that the junking phase will never end. Mounted Vandal costs , which means all players can open with one (which is not true to cards such as Mountebank). And why wouldn’t you? Duration draw is really good. People open Enchantress all the time. So the junking starts very early and does not ever really stops.

This brings me to the final problem that a card like this might arise: Giving up entirely on Action cards and focusing more on money-centric strategies. Silvers and Golds are not penalized, and so it might be more appealing to go down that route. Hey, you’ve got that Duration draw after all, that’s even more help for you.



Finally, we have that big castle thingy. Here are the cards that use that art:

Bastion (Action)
+1 Card
+2 Actions
Exile a card from your hand. If it’s a Victory card, Exile this.
The problem with these weekly contests is that you guys are too competent at making cards, much to the detriment of the poor judge! Bastion is no exception. It is a very beautifully crafted card. This is a Village that thins, not unlike Hideout. Both have a drawback when they thin green stuff. Hideout self-Curses, whereas this goes into Exile. Hideout nets you -2 when you do so early on with Estates, while Bastion keeps your . Both cards force you to thin. But Bastion can get good stuff back if you’re in a pickle, while Hideout removes those cards permanently.

Overall, Bastion seems on the stronger side. It even continues working later on in the game when Provinces start entering your deck. One should be careful though, because if people thinned their Estates early on with Bastion, especially in games with 3 or more players, then the Bastion pile could be running low. First, because it is a Village and, well, people need Villages. Second, because players who thinned Estates will probably want their Exiled Bastions back. So by the time you reach the endgame, it is possible that the Supply does not provide enough Bastions anymore for you to Exile Provinces while hopping to get your Bastions back. This is an interesting little battle that is not so obvious on the surface. And Bastion provides that minigame with so few words, too!

So while I stand by my initial opinion that Bastion has the upper hand over Hideout, it is not to the detriment of Bastion. It is interesting enough that I think it can allow itself to be overall stronger. And let’s remember, it’s not strictly better too. Even more reasons for this card to be allowed to exist.

Bastion (Action)
+1 Card
+2 Actions
The next time you get +Cards this turn, first look at that many cards from the top of your deck and either discard them, or put them back in any order.
Essentially, this is a Village that gives your next draw a Catacomb-like power. The bonus is very original. And helpful as well. This Village should make your deck a lot more consistent. Kind of like Wandering Minstrel. Perhaps it will take too long for players to always decide whether they should discard or not when you invest heavily in Bastions (which you probably will, what with it being a Village), but Catacombs, Navigator and other stuff like this exists as well, so this concern is probably unfounded. All in all, I like Villages+ for that give an extra nice utility. Bastion fits well in that range.

Castle Town (Action – Reaction)
+1 Card
+2 Actions
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When you trash a card, you may discard this to put that card into your discard pile.
Whoa, I really like this! Castle Town has multiple uses, thanks to its very cool Reaction. Well first, it’s a Village, so you buy it, right? But the extra bonus here gives a unique twist and pairs nicely with other cards. It’s like a reverse Fortress in a way. So first of all, we have the obvious “don’t trash my stuff, meanie” defense. A Knight raids a Recruiter, and you want that Recruiter back. If in hand, Castle Town’s got your back. Then, we have all of the trash-for-benefit cards who will love to get their fodder back. Think Apprentice and Governor. Or even stuff like Cultist with its +3 Cards on-trash clause. The numerous possibilities make Castle Town a worthy addition to a deck that knows how to exploit this well. Lovely!

One thing I'd try is to make the Reaction simply on-reveal, not on-discard. Worth trying in my opinion!

Stronghold (Victory)
Worth 2 if copies of Strongholds make up less than half of all your Victory cards.
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When you gain this, gain an Action card costing up to .
I believe this needs to mention “copies of Strongholds you have”, to be more precise.

I’ve always been a little on the fence about these all-or-nothing Victory cards. If you’re not tracking your deck efficiently, which I wouldn’t blame you for, then you can accidentally screw yourself. Victory cards you buy tend to increment your , that’s their whole shtick. But here, you can cross a threshold which would take a good chunk of your away and you’d be none the wiser. Maybe I’m exaggerating the problem here. Perhaps that, in practice, people will track their number of Strongholds better than I give them credit for.

The on-gain effect is, well, it’s nuts, isn’t it? Hitting in Dominion is probably everyone’s first goal in a given game. Stronghold’s doing it for you, right there and then. Adding a “junk” card to your deck is totally worth doing that, as it’s easy for you to snowball from there onward. Stronghold could even become a juicy trash-for-benefit card, or nice Shepherd/Crossroads fodder, etc…

Eyrie (Action)
+4 Cards
You may discard 2 cards for +1 Action.
Props to you for changing the cost of Eyrie, as I too believe it was too strong at . As it stands now, it is another Hunting Grounds, but it substitutes the trashing clause with a nice discard for Action effect. Discarding makes this a Laboratory with extra sifting, which is a good effect in itself. If you have Villages, then you do not even have to discard and can simply keep the big draw. This is incredibly versatile and seem like a clear superior choice over Hunting Grounds, save for some crazy Lurker + Hunting Grounds combos. Even if it’s one heck of a card, I still like the simplicity of it. I’d test it to see how dominant it is in games.

Stronghold (Action – Duration)
+2 Actions
The first time any player (including you) plays an Attack card before the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.
I can’t believe this is the only card costing or less submitted during this contest (well, there’s Longship, but it’s not a Supply card, so it’s a tad different)! Well, I can believe it. That castle in the picture looks pretty majestic after all.

There was some discussion about the wording employed here, but I get the idea. You get the +2 Cards first before the Attack. It’s kind of like a pseudo-Reaction of some sort. I think it will be stronger if it can trigger itself off your opponents’ Attacks, as it’s a free bigger hand next turn. Otherwise, trying to time it off your own Attacks can be sort of awkward. But it’s definitely not impossible. Drawing Attacks such as Ghost Ship will probably love Stronghold.

In the absence of Attacks though, we might run into a little bit of a problem. A good chunk of the card gets circumvented. In fact, the whole appeal of this gets pretty much nullified. Yes, we have stuff like this existing in Dominion, such as with Squire’s on-trash effect, or Moat’s Reaction. But most of the card still works. Here, we’d have an overpriced Necropolis. That only works half a turn too, yikes. People need Villages and will take whatever they can get, but this… with no Attacks, I’d probably not even bother with Stronghold, even if it’s the only Village in the Supply.




Since a lot of cards share the same name due to the nature of this contest, authors will have their names in brackets next to the card name.

Semifinialist: Centurion [AJL828] ; Longship [arowdok] ; Longship [The Alchemist] ; Northern Regiment [Xen3k] ; Templar [grep]

Finalists: Bastion [emtzalex] ; Paladin [Timinou]

Winner: Castle Town [majiponi]

Not only does Castle Town piqued my interest with its mechanically and innovative Reaction, but it also fits the art very well thematically. It mirrors Fortress as this big indestructible structure, walling off your precious cards against imminent destruction. I know the good folks of this thread seemed to have a soft spot for emtzalex’s Bastion – and so did I – but Castle Town edged over it in my own personal tastes. Paladin and the semifinalists were all good as well. Like I said somewhere in my wall of text above, it gets harder and harder to judge, as fan card quality has seriously skyrocketed over the years. You guys need to learn to stop being so good at it to make my life harder, harr harr. :P
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2021, 07:49:31 pm »
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Oh, I've never imagined I'd got a first prize! We've enjoyed this week's contest. Thank you X-tra!

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2021, 12:26:30 am »
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The problem with these weekly contests is that you guys are too competent at making cards, much to the detriment of the poor judge! Bastion is no exception. It is a very beautifully crafted card. This is a Village that thins, not unlike Hideout. Both have a drawback when they thin green stuff. Hideout self-Curses, whereas this goes into Exile. Hideout nets you -2 when you do so early on with Estates, while Bastion keeps your . Both cards force you to thin. But Bastion can get good stuff back if you’re in a pickle, while Hideout removes those cards permanently.

Overall, Bastion seems on the stronger side. It even continues working later on in the game when Provinces start entering your deck. One should be careful though, because if people thinned their Estates early on with Bastion, especially in games with 3 or more players, then the Bastion pile could be running low. First, because it is a Village and, well, people need Villages. Second, because players who thinned Estates will probably want their Exiled Bastions back. So by the time you reach the endgame, it is possible that the Supply does not provide enough Bastions anymore for you to Exile Provinces while hopping to get your Bastions back. This is an interesting little battle that is not so obvious on the surface. And Bastion provides that minigame with so few words, too!

So while I stand by my initial opinion that Bastion has the upper hand over Hideout, it is not to the detriment of Bastion. It is interesting enough that I think it can allow itself to be overall stronger. And let’s remember, it’s not strictly better too. Even more reasons for this card to be allowed to exist.
Finalists: Bastion [emtzalex] ; Paladin [Timinou]

Thanks X-tra. I appreciate the feedback and the Finalist nod. I really liked this week's contest, even if it didn't get as many entries as some other weeks.

I actually designed a few cards using the other images.



Quote from: Raiding Party
Raiding Party
Cost: $4
Type: Night - Duration
Text:
You may set aside an Action card from your hand and a non-Duration Action card you have in play costing less than it. At the start of your next turn, play the set-aside cards in either order.
                                                                                                 



Quote from: Ship of Theseus
Ship of Theseus
Cost: $7
Type: Treasure
Text:


When you trash this, +2VP and Exile a Ship of Theseus from the Supply.




Quote from: Knight Rider
Knight Rider
Cost: $6
Type: Action
Text:
+2 Cards
+1 Action

During your turn, this costs $1 less per Attack card you have in play.
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Thanks to Shard of Honor for his Extended Version of the Dominion Card Image Generator, which I use to mock up my fan cards, and to Violet CLM, who made the original.
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