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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Signups)
« Reply #1925 on: October 08, 2021, 04:57:25 pm »


Third vote is scum

Vote: math

I'm a bit busy at work for the next two days, so no time for a long post but suffice to say I found this case persuasive.

Vote: Mathdude

But really... This is a perfect bus vote. Just made the "mistake" of staying on wagon too long. Except not, because math want exiled
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1926 on: October 08, 2021, 04:57:59 pm »

we just voting now?

I am cool with it. Either that or a weekend waiting for Didds to do a DAMA
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1927 on: October 08, 2021, 04:58:19 pm »

I mean it's fine if we are but the next vote on Swowl is L-1. Technically if scum isn't already on Swowl (and he isn't scum) they could quickhammer him right now.

Just pointing out realities.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1928 on: October 08, 2021, 04:59:05 pm »

I mean, I know that they wouldn't do that because they wouldn't win after that.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1929 on: October 08, 2021, 05:02:07 pm »

I am at the point where my reads are pretty set in. Unless either swowl or math flip green I probably won't be doing much rereading. Reacting to random stuff, sure. But otherwise, nah
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1930 on: October 08, 2021, 05:05:19 pm »

This is what I am looking at:

faust, e, Didds - town core
Jimmmm, joth - solid town
Math, swowl - scum

Unless people want to make an argument jimmmm or joth is scum, I don't see my vote changing off swowl/math
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Signups)
« Reply #1931 on: October 08, 2021, 05:08:01 pm »


Third vote is scum

Vote: math

I'm a bit busy at work for the next two days, so no time for a long post but suffice to say I found this case persuasive.

Vote: Mathdude

But really... This is a perfect bus vote. Just made the "mistake" of staying on wagon too long. Except not, because math want exiled
He doubles down on that later though. It's not quite clear cut.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1932 on: October 08, 2021, 05:08:51 pm »

I mean it's fine if we are but the next vote on Swowl is L-1. Technically if scum isn't already on Swowl (and he isn't scum) they could quickhammer him right now.
But they wouldn't win that way.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1933 on: October 08, 2021, 06:05:24 pm »

Wouldn't scum have started with Godfather, Roleblocker, and 1-shot Strongman?
Oh, neat, I town-slipped!

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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1934 on: October 08, 2021, 06:10:37 pm »

we just voting now?

Scum is voting. He just wants to get something going before too many swing towards thinking he's scum... just like his partner self-hammered yesterday before we could start connecting more dots. But hey, we're doing it today anyway.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1935 on: October 08, 2021, 06:15:27 pm »

If we are voting now, I think Swowl is the right vote. But let me know before we do that so I can tell you Mixy痴 thoughts
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1936 on: October 08, 2021, 07:44:51 pm »

Cyan's body was found. Accusations became sharper, opinions solidified, and lines were drawn. Was the crew on the right track? They could only take so many more losses before it would be impossible to operate the ship successfully...

Vote Count 4.1

Swowl (2): faust, 2.71828.....
Not Voting (5): Swowl, mathdude, Jimmmmm, jotheonah, WestCoastDidds

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to exile. Day 4 will end Thursday, October 14, 2021, at 5:00 pm forum time.

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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1937 on: October 08, 2021, 08:53:54 pm »

This is what I am looking at:

faust, e, Didds - town core
Jimmmm, joth - solid town
Math, swowl - scum

Unless people want to make an argument jimmmm or joth is scum, I don't see my vote changing off swowl/math

This is also exactly where I am.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1938 on: October 08, 2021, 09:02:46 pm »

*snip*
So where does that leave us? I think it leaves us at scum!Swowl having planned to go for a Cop fakeclaim, and then after he saw e's claim he decided he had to back out. But that only makes sense if e is town.

Vote: iguana

You said it here.
Here is the thing - Everyone had claimed by the time I had claimed. And now we know that Iguana flipped RB. So in the world where I am skum, where "I got caught", what kept me from just claiming cop after everyone had claimed VT except for the masons?
This:
The other thing is the LaLight kill N1. It has "trying to avoid the Doctor target" written all over it. However... that would only be a concern if scum doesn't have a full Strongman. That means that there are at most three non-T letters in the setup. And we already have

E - EFHW
M - MiX/Didds
E/C - Swowl

There isn't room for another Cop.

How does this not work?

E- EFHW (1 shot Doc)
M - MiX Didds (masons)
CCC - Swowl/E! (Cop + 1Shot Cop)
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You are basing all of your logic off WIFOM from NK choice.
We have no idea how many letters are in play.
1 shot doc could be EE for all the hell we know.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1939 on: October 08, 2021, 11:14:51 pm »


I知 gonna be VLA for the long weekend. I知 going wine tasting in CA, so I値l check in every evening when I知 doing the other checking in stuff but it would well be DAMA. I知 fully back, and for sure sober, on Tuesday.

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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1940 on: October 09, 2021, 12:26:23 am »

*snip*
So where does that leave us? I think it leaves us at scum!Swowl having planned to go for a Cop fakeclaim, and then after he saw e's claim he decided he had to back out. But that only makes sense if e is town.

Vote: iguana

You said it here.
Here is the thing - Everyone had claimed by the time I had claimed. And now we know that Iguana flipped RB. So in the world where I am skum, where "I got caught", what kept me from just claiming cop after everyone had claimed VT except for the masons?
This:
The other thing is the LaLight kill N1. It has "trying to avoid the Doctor target" written all over it. However... that would only be a concern if scum doesn't have a full Strongman. That means that there are at most three non-T letters in the setup. And we already have

E - EFHW
M - MiX/Didds
E/C - Swowl

There isn't room for another Cop.

How does this not work?

E- EFHW (1 shot Doc)
M - MiX Didds (masons)
CCC - Swowl/E! (Cop + 1Shot Cop)
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You are basing all of your logic off WIFOM from NK choice.
We have no idea how many letters are in play.
1 shot doc could be EE for all the hell we know.

EE is either 2x of the 1-shot doctor, or 1-shot each doc and cop.

... unless you're saying there's another role out there.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1941 on: October 09, 2021, 01:34:15 am »

*snip*
So where does that leave us? I think it leaves us at scum!Swowl having planned to go for a Cop fakeclaim, and then after he saw e's claim he decided he had to back out. But that only makes sense if e is town.

Vote: iguana

You said it here.
Here is the thing - Everyone had claimed by the time I had claimed. And now we know that Iguana flipped RB. So in the world where I am skum, where "I got caught", what kept me from just claiming cop after everyone had claimed VT except for the masons?
This:
The other thing is the LaLight kill N1. It has "trying to avoid the Doctor target" written all over it. However... that would only be a concern if scum doesn't have a full Strongman. That means that there are at most three non-T letters in the setup. And we already have

E - EFHW
M - MiX/Didds
E/C - Swowl

There isn't room for another Cop.

How does this not work?

E- EFHW (1 shot Doc)
M - MiX Didds (masons)
CCC - Swowl/E! (Cop + 1Shot Cop)
emphasis mine

You are basing all of your logic off WIFOM from NK choice.
We have no idea how many letters are in play.
1 shot doc could be EE for all the hell we know.

EE is either 2x of the 1-shot doctor, or 1-shot each doc and cop.

... unless you're saying there's another role out there.

this is incorrect.. EE is 2x of 1 shot doc OR 1shot cop x2
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1942 on: October 09, 2021, 01:35:33 am »

*snip*
So where does that leave us? I think it leaves us at scum!Swowl having planned to go for a Cop fakeclaim, and then after he saw e's claim he decided he had to back out. But that only makes sense if e is town.

Vote: iguana

You said it here.
Here is the thing - Everyone had claimed by the time I had claimed. And now we know that Iguana flipped RB. So in the world where I am skum, where "I got caught", what kept me from just claiming cop after everyone had claimed VT except for the masons?
This:
The other thing is the LaLight kill N1. It has "trying to avoid the Doctor target" written all over it. However... that would only be a concern if scum doesn't have a full Strongman. That means that there are at most three non-T letters in the setup. And we already have

E - EFHW
M - MiX/Didds
E/C - Swowl

There isn't room for another Cop.

How does this not work?

E- EFHW (1 shot Doc)
M - MiX Didds (masons)
CCC - Swowl/E! (Cop + 1Shot Cop)
emphasis mine

You are basing all of your logic off WIFOM from NK choice.
We have no idea how many letters are in play.
1 shot doc could be EE for all the hell we know.

EE is either 2x of the 1-shot doctor, or 1-shot each doc and cop.

... unless you're saying there's another role out there.

this is incorrect.. EE  1 shot doc OR 1shot cop x2

EBWOF
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1943 on: October 09, 2021, 01:36:16 am »

Edit by way of Face.
typo sorry - EBWOP.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1944 on: October 09, 2021, 01:55:28 am »

People need to do some rereading, figuring out possible partner interactions. Posting a list of their biases isn't going to accomplish anything.

This seems wrong. Of course rereads can change reads, but wouldn't Town faust want scum to have to give some reads at this point? Why is faust only concerned with the reads of Townies?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1945 on: October 09, 2021, 02:47:26 am »

Okay I have to say, the faust/joth discussion is doing a pretty good job of convincing me that it's Swowl/math. It's hard to shake the nagging "It can't be that easy" feeling, but that definitely seems to be the Occam's razor solution.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1946 on: October 09, 2021, 11:47:22 am »

What are all the possibilities that could happen if EE shows up?

A) 2 of 1-shot cop
B) 1-shot cop
C) 1-shot doc
D) 2 of 1-shot doc

Is it [A] or [D] or [B and C]? (This is my interpretation)
Is it [A] or [D] only? (I could see this being the intention)
Is it [A] or [C] only? (This seems to be what Swowl is saying)


I feel like Swowl is trying to obscure something here.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1947 on: October 09, 2021, 12:22:50 pm »


I知 gonna be VLA for the long weekend. I知 going wine tasting in CA, so I値l check in every evening when I知 doing the other checking in stuff but it would well be DAMA. I知 fully back, and for sure sober, on Tuesday.

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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1948 on: October 09, 2021, 12:27:43 pm »

People need to do some rereading, figuring out possible partner interactions. Posting a list of their biases isn't going to accomplish anything.

This seems wrong. Of course rereads can change reads, but wouldn't Town faust want scum to have to give some reads at this point? Why is faust only concerned with the reads of Townies?

Yeah, this runs me the wrong way. I would rather talk about perceptions and think they could generate an interesting data point. But since reads are non-binding, I think faust finds them irrelevant. Still, it is helpful to me to see where my town friends are standing.

One good reason to flip Swowl today is that it reveals something about faust. I told mix that I thought that is Swowl was red, faust was an MIC.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1949 on: October 09, 2021, 01:01:30 pm »

What are all the possibilities that could happen if EE shows up?

A) 2 of 1-shot cop
B) 1-shot cop
C) 1-shot doc
D) 2 of 1-shot doc

Is it [A] or [D] or [B and C]? (This is my interpretation)
Is it [A] or [D] only? (I could see this being the intention)
Is it [A] or [C] only? (This seems to be what Swowl is saying)


I feel like Swowl is trying to obscure something here.

Ever since I first saw this setup, I have always read it as [A] or [C] (very literal computer programmer biased reading). Now that I look at it right now, I think your first option should be correct, but assume it would be A or C if it was rolled this game.
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