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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1500 on: September 30, 2021, 06:49:54 am »

Yes but not enough to do a mad sacrifice play while they’re currently bowligg by a perfect game…. Cmon faust.
What do you think is going on?

Either e is a cop and iguana is scum or e is scum and iguana is town. Scum might be scared enough to take the 1v1 here.

Hmm, the more I think about it, we really would never exile e if we went for iguana now and he flipped scum. But I also know that if we went for e and he flipped scum.

What if this is the world’s greatest Xenatos gambit and faust, e, and iguana are all scum? And it’s like in those heist movies where you think the thieves are caught but then the cop who has caught them is just another thief?

I guess this is a long way of saying I like what you’re saying but I don’t trust you.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1501 on: September 30, 2021, 06:50:02 am »

Ok well. Swowl is a Cop (probably 1-shot and has investigated EFHW N1. MiX and Didds are Masons. Scum is among the remaining players.

why would you say this?
If I'm right then scum probably already suspects all of this. If I'm wrong then maybe someone can point out to me why that is. Too many people have been suspecting MiX/Didds and I figured maybe this will give them something to think about.

I thought the masonry was you and MiX. Which kind of blinded me to the possibility of MiX and Didds. You might be underestimating the clarity that knowing your own role gives you.

If they are masons, that makes MiX’s behavior eod look a lot better. But it takes always the main reason I was trusting you :(

Sorry! This was on purpose. I just expected Didds to always be townread and faust to not.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1502 on: September 30, 2021, 06:51:20 am »

Blah I like this even more. It backfired but I like it.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1503 on: September 30, 2021, 06:53:52 am »

I stupidly brought up the mass claim yesterday, ensuring that scum would plan for it overnight. Which makes something like “if a massclaim looks like it’s a go, I’m going to immediately pre-empt it by claiming cop” a much more likely scum QT scenario.

Ok, faust has me convinced. Though I’m really gonna feel like a dick if e is actually a cop.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1504 on: September 30, 2021, 06:54:14 am »

Sorry! This was on purpose. I just expected Didds to always be townread and faust to not.
Ha! The thing is though, Masons tend to look like scum. They are a group of people that has alignment information on one another and does not want to get each other exiled.

Also I feel like I suspected you too much for this to really work.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1505 on: September 30, 2021, 06:56:58 am »

One nice thing is that it’s no longer possible that iguana and e are both town. Which means the scum team can’t, for instance, be Didds/MiX/faust.

But faust could be scum who figured out the masonry and decided to put if for town cred.

MIX, what makes you trust faust here?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1506 on: September 30, 2021, 06:57:03 am »

The other thing is the LaLight kill N1. It has "trying to avoid the Doctor target" written all over it. However... that would only be a concern if scum doesn't have a full Strongman. That means that there are at most three non-T letters in the setup. And we already have

E - EFHW
M - MiX/Didds
E/C - Swowl

There isn't room for another Cop.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1507 on: September 30, 2021, 06:57:34 am »

e, why iguana instead of me or math or faust?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1508 on: September 30, 2021, 06:58:39 am »

Sorry! This was on purpose. I just expected Didds to always be townread and faust to not.
Ha! The thing is though, Masons tend to look like scum. They are a group of people that has alignment information on one another and does not want to get each other exiled.

Also I feel like I suspected you too much for this to really work.

I mean, figuring it out is a good exercise in reading this game. If you read it carefully, it was obvious we weren't masons, but otherwise your distrust of me could be seen as "sheep me, not the other way around".

One nice thing is that it’s no longer possible that iguana and e are both town. Which means the scum team can’t, for instance, be Didds/MiX/faust.

But faust could be scum who figured out the masonry and decided to put if for town cred.

MIX, what makes you trust faust here?

Faust is town. Like...I don't need to justify it.

Just look at today. And then look at D3 the other game. Do you see any similarities? There are none.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1509 on: September 30, 2021, 06:59:40 am »

The other thing is the LaLight kill N1. It has "trying to avoid the Doctor target" written all over it. However... that would only be a concern if scum doesn't have a full Strongman. That means that there are at most three non-T letters in the setup. And we already have

E - EFHW
M - MiX/Didds
E/C - Swowl

There isn't room for another Cop.

Bad faust. Bad. No theory talking before massclaim.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1510 on: September 30, 2021, 07:01:26 am »

Well you jumped the order in the massclaim, so don't you complain about me!
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1511 on: September 30, 2021, 07:01:43 am »

+ basically told scum "don't claim UB"
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1512 on: September 30, 2021, 07:02:39 am »

Ok I’m sold. With a towncore of MiX/Didds/faust from where I’m sitting I just need to figure out two more townies. I can add Swowl if I trust faust.

So that leaves e, iguana, mathdude, and Jimmmmm as 3 town and a scum.

So it’s probably Jim or iguana.

vote: e
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1513 on: September 30, 2021, 07:03:18 am »

Am I up for claims?

Are we still even doing that now the game is solved?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1514 on: September 30, 2021, 07:04:08 am »

Well you jumped the order in the massclaim, so don't you complain about me!

You're the one that claimed for me.

+ basically told scum "don't claim UB"

Yes, but this is trivial. What you said is not trivial. Claiming UB is never a good idea regardless of setup.

Am I up for claims?

Are we still even doing that now the game is solved?

I'm waiting for iguana. You can do whatever.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1515 on: September 30, 2021, 07:06:46 am »

Yes. I have also been voting e for a brief moment during D2, before annoyingly deciding to go for gkrieg instead.

Could you have tried to sheep me instead? At least attempt to?
MiXy, I wish I could trust you. Alas. My vote stays where it is.
At the time I wasn't seeing the potential for Masons.

 :'(

Well I thought only Swowl was onto it anyway. So I guess it's fine.

So MiX and Didds are masons. That changes things
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1516 on: September 30, 2021, 07:07:47 am »

faust's case does assume I somehow knew MiX and Didds were masons, which is not the case
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1517 on: September 30, 2021, 07:08:26 am »

faust's case does assume I somehow knew MiX and Didds were masons, which is not the case
Where do I assume that?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1518 on: September 30, 2021, 07:09:04 am »

Also, even more suspicious of faust.

Claiming masons for MiX/Didds is MVP play right there... If scum win (and faust is scum)
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1519 on: September 30, 2021, 07:09:19 am »

+ basically told scum "don't claim UB"

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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1520 on: September 30, 2021, 07:10:59 am »

+ basically told scum "don't claim UB"

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What...? MiX said that after you claimed and it doesn't have anything to do with why I think you're scum.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1521 on: September 30, 2021, 07:12:59 am »

Good morning! 6 pages! It’s gonna make me a minute…

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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1522 on: September 30, 2021, 07:13:11 am »

Also, even more suspicious of faust.

Claiming masons for MiX/Didds is MVP play right there... If scum win (and faust is scum)

If me, faust and Didds are scum...then I planned to claim masons with one of them from D1. Just read it.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1523 on: September 30, 2021, 07:13:51 am »

Good morning! 6 pages! It’s gonna make me a minute…

Welcome! I claimed already by the way. Faust kinda tied my hands though :P
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1524 on: September 30, 2021, 07:14:12 am »

+ basically told scum "don't claim UB"

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What...? MiX said that after you claimed and it doesn't have anything to do with why I think you're scum.

Ok, true. Jumping around on mobile and conflating/mixing things up.

But the idea that I am telling alleged partners not to claim UB is absolutely in contradiction to the idea that I am scum claiming a cop result against iguana.

If I were scum doing something like that you know it would have been discussed at night
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