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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1700 on: August 03, 2021, 08:24:41 am »

I'm going to vote swowl, so that if EFHW gets here first and Swowl can somehow control the Cylon vote, EFHW can vote for Swowl.

Pretty much the same thought here.

Vote: Gkrieg

And no, I cannot control the Cylon vote.

Both of you had the same thought, but I'm missing something. I don't follow the logic here.

I’m pretty sure the logic only makes sense for me. The same logic doesn’t work for Swowl.

I explained my logic. What is yours?

So you were 100% sure I was skum right?
0% chance it could be EFHW.
Only explanation for your vote, so I assume that was your mindset.

It sounds like you know gkrieg is town.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1701 on: August 03, 2021, 08:27:20 am »

I'm ready to vote, later today. Glooble, you want to say anything?
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1702 on: August 03, 2021, 08:37:53 am »

I'm ready to vote, later today. Glooble, you want to say anything?

I don't think so. I trust you.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #1703 on: August 03, 2021, 11:18:12 am »

I copped mathdude last night and got cylon. We should exile him Today.

Did you get "cylon extremist" or just cylon? Does your cop ability detect alignment or just species?

Got cylon. I have a pretty good reason to assume that it is likely a scum result though.

What was that reason?
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #1704 on: August 03, 2021, 11:20:49 am »

I copped mathdude last night and got cylon. We should exile him Today.

Did you get "cylon extremist" or just cylon? Does your cop ability detect alignment or just species?

Got cylon. I have a pretty good reason to assume that it is likely a scum result though.

What was that reason?

Just that I lost the ability once I actually found a Cylon.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1705 on: August 03, 2021, 12:01:30 pm »

I'm going to vote swowl, so that if EFHW gets here first and Swowl can somehow control the Cylon vote, EFHW can vote for Swowl.

Pretty much the same thought here.

Vote: Gkrieg

And no, I cannot control the Cylon vote.

Both of you had the same thought, but I'm missing something. I don't follow the logic here.

I’m pretty sure the logic only makes sense for me. The same logic doesn’t work for Swowl.

I explained my logic. What is yours?

So you were 100% sure I was skum right?
0% chance it could be EFHW.
Only explanation for your vote, so I assume that was your mindset.

It sounds like you know gkrieg is town.

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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1706 on: August 03, 2021, 03:18:07 pm »

You are attributing a town perspective to him to explain his vote. If you were convinced he was scum you wouldn't do that.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #1707 on: August 03, 2021, 03:19:13 pm »

I copped mathdude last night and got cylon. We should exile him Today.

Did you get "cylon extremist" or just cylon? Does your cop ability detect alignment or just species?

Got cylon. I have a pretty good reason to assume that it is likely a scum result though.

What was that reason?

Just that I lost the ability once I actually found a Cylon.
Ok. I noticed you said you have 2 smaller powers but you only told us about one.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #1708 on: August 03, 2021, 03:28:20 pm »

I copped mathdude last night and got cylon. We should exile him Today.

Did you get "cylon extremist" or just cylon? Does your cop ability detect alignment or just species?

Got cylon. I have a pretty good reason to assume that it is likely a scum result though.

What was that reason?

Just that I lost the ability once I actually found a Cylon.
Ok. I noticed you said you have 2 smaller powers but you only told us about one.

I also have a delayed bomb power, where I can irradiate myself (Night i), if I'm not already irradiated, and then the next night (Night i + 1) any Cylons who target me (on Night i + 1) are killed.

I didn't claim it, because I was going to use it at some point (it obviously doesn't work well once it is claimed), but then realized it may get us into a sticky situation of me potentially dying from radiation at ExLo, or somehow not being able to survive the 2 days and 2 nights after the final scum is exiled.

This is the other reason why I thought my cop result may be a scum/town result, because me killing town!Cylons is anti-town.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1709 on: August 03, 2021, 04:01:11 pm »

You are attributing a town perspective to him to explain his vote. If you were convinced he was scum you wouldn't do that.

I am talking to skum who is claiming to be town. I am pointing out if they were town they would do X. I do not understand the confusion with this?
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1710 on: August 03, 2021, 04:03:58 pm »

You are attributing a town perspective to him to explain his vote. If you were convinced he was scum you wouldn't do that.

I am talking to skum who is claiming to be town. I am pointing out if they were town they would do X. I do not understand the confusion with this?
I thought of that, and reread it several times. Each time it felt to me like you forgot he was supposed to be the scum. Just one part of the picture.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1711 on: August 03, 2021, 04:14:10 pm »

You are attributing a town perspective to him to explain his vote. If you were convinced he was scum you wouldn't do that.

I am talking to skum who is claiming to be town. I am pointing out if they were town they would do X. I do not understand the confusion with this?
I thought of that, and reread it several times. Each time it felt to me like you forgot he was supposed to be the scum. Just one part of the picture.

I didn't "forget" anything. I am just trying to point out any inconsistencies I can at this point, not really paying a hell of a lot of attention to how it comes off or whatever.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #1712 on: August 03, 2021, 04:17:45 pm »

I copped mathdude last night and got cylon. We should exile him Today.

Did you get "cylon extremist" or just cylon? Does your cop ability detect alignment or just species?

Got cylon. I have a pretty good reason to assume that it is likely a scum result though.

What was that reason?

Just that I lost the ability once I actually found a Cylon.
Ok. I noticed you said you have 2 smaller powers but you only told us about one.

I also have a delayed bomb power, where I can irradiate myself (Night i), if I'm not already irradiated, and then the next night (Night i + 1) any Cylons who target me (on Night i + 1) are killed.

I didn't claim it, because I was going to use it at some point (it obviously doesn't work well once it is claimed), but then realized it may get us into a sticky situation of me potentially dying from radiation at ExLo, or somehow not being able to survive the 2 days and 2 nights after the final scum is exiled.

This is the other reason why I thought my cop result may be a scum/town result, because me killing town!Cylons is anti-town.

can you use it if you are already irradiated? If so, what happens?
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #1713 on: August 03, 2021, 04:45:19 pm »

I copped mathdude last night and got cylon. We should exile him Today.

Did you get "cylon extremist" or just cylon? Does your cop ability detect alignment or just species?

Got cylon. I have a pretty good reason to assume that it is likely a scum result though.

What was that reason?

Just that I lost the ability once I actually found a Cylon.
Ok. I noticed you said you have 2 smaller powers but you only told us about one.

I also have a delayed bomb power, where I can irradiate myself (Night i), if I'm not already irradiated, and then the next night (Night i + 1) any Cylons who target me (on Night i + 1) are killed.

I didn't claim it, because I was going to use it at some point (it obviously doesn't work well once it is claimed), but then realized it may get us into a sticky situation of me potentially dying from radiation at ExLo, or somehow not being able to survive the 2 days and 2 nights after the final scum is exiled.

This is the other reason why I thought my cop result may be a scum/town result, because me killing town!Cylons is anti-town.

can you use it if you are already irradiated? If so, what happens?

Cannot use it while irradiated.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Night 3)
« Reply #1714 on: August 03, 2021, 08:27:46 pm »

Day 4 Final Vote Count

WestCoastDidds (5): Swowl, Dylan32, LaLight, Glooble, gkrieg13

Not Voting (4): Jack Rudd, WestCoastDidds, EFHW, Cylons

With 8 alive, it took 5 to exile.

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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1715 on: August 03, 2021, 09:27:45 pm »

faust must be asleep. So rather than anxiously waiting for a flip I'll wait, and see if either of you wants to make a final case on the other one.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1716 on: August 03, 2021, 10:35:51 pm »

faust must be asleep. So rather than anxiously waiting for a flip I'll wait, and see if either of you wants to make a final case on the other one.

I'm off work in an hour.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #1717 on: August 04, 2021, 12:11:56 am »

I copped mathdude last night and got cylon. We should exile him Today.

Did you get "cylon extremist" or just cylon? Does your cop ability detect alignment or just species?

Got cylon. I have a pretty good reason to assume that it is likely a scum result though.

What was that reason?

Just that I lost the ability once I actually found a Cylon.
Ok. I noticed you said you have 2 smaller powers but you only told us about one.

I also have a delayed bomb power, where I can irradiate myself (Night i), if I'm not already irradiated, and then the next night (Night i + 1) any Cylons who target me (on Night i + 1) are killed.

I didn't claim it, because I was going to use it at some point (it obviously doesn't work well once it is claimed), but then realized it may get us into a sticky situation of me potentially dying from radiation at ExLo, or somehow not being able to survive the 2 days and 2 nights after the final scum is exiled.

This is the other reason why I thought my cop result may be a scum/town result, because me killing town!Cylons is anti-town.

can you use it if you are already irradiated? If so, what happens?

Cannot use it while irradiated.

How would you become irradiated? Your other ability did not cause you to be irradiated unless I am mistaken.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #1718 on: August 04, 2021, 12:17:03 am »

I copped mathdude last night and got cylon. We should exile him Today.

Did you get "cylon extremist" or just cylon? Does your cop ability detect alignment or just species?

Got cylon. I have a pretty good reason to assume that it is likely a scum result though.

What was that reason?

Just that I lost the ability once I actually found a Cylon.
Ok. I noticed you said you have 2 smaller powers but you only told us about one.

I didn't claim it, because I was going to use it at some point (it obviously doesn't work well once it is claimed), but then realized it may get us into a sticky situation of me potentially dying from radiation at ExLo, or somehow not being able to survive the 2 days and 2 nights after the final scum is exiled.

Don't have to survive for 2 days and nights when the "final skum" is exiled.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1719 on: August 04, 2021, 01:32:17 am »

Been working on this, but have been busy. Here it is by day:

Day 1 GK:

#73 - kind of RVS vote for E! over the JAck Day 1 claim situation.

#140 and #156 - Hard defense on the scolapasta policy vote vs Mathdude

#256 - Random shade casting on Ashersky

#338 - Votes Lalight X2 when the wagons are here:
Vote Count 1.8.0000
MiX (2): ashersky, A Drowned Kernel
A Drowned Kernel (2): Jack Rudd, 2.71828.....
2.71828..... (2): gkrieg13, scolapasta
LaLight (5): WestCoastDidds, Swowl, mathdude, MiX, Glooble,
ADK (2): EFHW, LaLight
Not Voting (2):  Dylan32, Cylons
--- They were sitting on E with partner pasta and needed to go somewhere so they check in to L2 LL.

#355 - gives skum points to MiX

#356 - skum points to Jack

#360-#362 - gives town points to Dylan. And also Ash and MiX... both of which he just gave skum cred to.

#364 - Pro claiming pre night actions and if you kept your character. Reasoning is wrong, especially considering if GK is a skum cylon cop, they would assumedly know there were other cylons they wanted to sort out. Knowing actions and characters kept would help that.

#370 - Announces they will hammer pretty much whoever.  I will come back to this. This is 1/many times GK specifically states they want to be the hammer exactly.

#372 - Skum points to Mathdude

#374 - First interaction with WCD. Disagrees that EFHW is townie, not followed by any sort of push or skum points (which they were throwing around like candy all day) or anything.

#380 - Town points E. Would vote ADK, EFHW, Math. Again a note that any X1 is a hammer.

#390 - With less than 30m left in the day hammers the only viable wagon. Which already had the Cylons vote on it.


- GK defends pasta
- GK has a one off skummy vibes post with didds that is never followed up on in any way
- GK casts shade on like 30-40% of the field, none of which are WCD or Pasta.
- GK hammers in the 30m mark with the Cylons vote on ADK.

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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1720 on: August 04, 2021, 01:32:30 am »

GK Day 2:

#469 Votes MD

#470 - clarifies they would of hammered anyone at x1

#506 - Got cylon of Math. Should exile math today.

#524 - Clarifies they got "cylon" not "extremist" and says "pretty good reason to assume it is a skum result. Which, as skum, is obviously the way they would put it.

#538 - claims it is not good for town to claim everything about their ability. which, outside of let's say... claiming you only can do it until you catch someone... is pretty much skum 101.

#545 - They have a "strong reason to believe there are not many town aligned cylons". Yes, because GK is skum cylon and found other cylon skum.

#619 - Unvotes fucking math. Again "I want to be the one to hammer math"

#624/#625 - Set ups for reasons why they are doing what they are doing.

#632 - Asks MiX "why they think the cylons vote is *not* anti town"... coming from the guy that hammered ADK with the cylons vote on them. Also... keep in mind all of this is wayyyy easier to piece together at the time if they are skum and knows there is another cylon faction in play.

#636 - "My powers are not useful if Math is Town". Duh.

#639 - Just go read this one. No reds flipped. They think they found a yellow. It is conf!bias

#641 - Setting up cylons do not need to be skum. Which is a great thing to throw in there if you are a skum cylon.

#697 - OK this one is arguably good. However, also makes sense for him to have the ability claimed if there are skum cylons vs skum cylons and he is skum cylon.

#734 - Claims it would be horrible for him to do what he did with Math if Math flips town. Which is not true. He probably didn't know if there were town cylons or not... just that there were likely other bad cylons. This was the way out if math was town.

- Whatever this has been talked to death. I have made my case on Day 2. GK is red skum that was given the ability to find yellow. Math probably had the same ability for their faction in reverse.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1721 on: August 04, 2021, 01:32:46 am »

need a moment for day 3. had not had time to get there yet.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1722 on: August 04, 2021, 01:55:25 am »

#841 - Says jack may still be skum just the other kind of skum. Which they know is not true. But it is a great set up.

#850 - I can only investigate until I find cylon then I lose it. Perfect cover.

#869 - post about E being killed making sense. It didn't make sense. GK should of been killed if they are town. This is just them trying to back up why they are alive after giving a reason for not being killed in the future a few posts ago.

#874 - Votes Jack. Following up on the play.

#878 - This one is fun. Says jack was pissed cuz they got caught for the wrong reasons. Yes, skum caught other skum.

#912 - skummy skummy skummy post.

#944 - I make a good defense case on Jack regarding the hedging on Math's part, which forces GK to back off. GK doesn't care. There were no other wagons, safe play. "What town would do".

#965 - Thinks it is little use to talk of Dylan and LL. I now assume this is because they had copped LL and they came back not cylon so they were going for the cred.

#966/ #970 - WCD votes GK (with me btw) and then again has a one off back and forth between GK and WCD that ends in that post.

#971 - defends MiX, who was never getting exiled so whatever.

#978 - #981 - all spent pushing EFHW as skummy.

#986 - Again read it... just seems like they knew more than what they should.

#1006 - After pasta claim. They want to exile Glooble and Jack, but would also go for EFHW or Swowl... ANDDDD again will hammer whoever is stated. They also say they agree with WCD that pasta is not skum... so that is two flipped red they are agreeing with and 4 greens (or whatever, not red) they are willing to vote.

#1023 - "I would hammer scola, but if you really want to get a wagon going on him, you need to give us a little bit more to go off."
#1070 - "I’m not around for deadline and it doesn’t seem like we would get an exile off anyway."
Those two posts are nonsensically skummy. He painted an image of being willing to vote pasta, then came back and said "shrug... it isn't gonna happen anyways."



- Way too much info regarding what the game set up seemed to be.
- again no interaction with WCD or pasta, minus minor "oh look at me I am talking to WCD" post or two.
- Wants to HAMMER EVERYONE, but just not Pasta!!!
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1723 on: August 04, 2021, 01:57:24 am »

That's what I got.
I think that GK has some sort of an ability that makes them BP when they are the hammer which is why they were so insistent upon it. They didn't go for Pasta because they thought it was going no exile, but then they came in 10th hour on WCD because they had mathed out that I could shoot 2 people and needed the BP.

And then all the other stuff.
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Re: RMM61: Battlestar Galactica - Season 2 (Day 6)
« Reply #1724 on: August 04, 2021, 02:01:22 am »

That's what I got.
I think that GK has some sort of an ability that makes them BP when they are the hammer which is why they were so insistent upon it. They didn't go for Pasta because they thought it was going no exile, but then they came in 10th hour on WCD because they had mathed out that I could shoot 2 people and needed the BP.

And then all the other stuff.

Correction, sorry - "They didn't go for Pasta because they thought they could get no exile and then they hammered WCD to remain BP"..... AND THEN ALSO hammered Glooble to keep said BP.
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Jesus how did i fuck that up
real good. That’s how
Town:  14 wins, 14 losses (1 MVP)
Skum: 7 wins, 7 losses (1 MVP)
3-Party: 4 wins, 1 loss
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