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[Swowl]

does anyone else know why WCD is obviously supposed to be last?
Don't say like "why" just would like some yes and/or no's before she gets to her claim.

[EFHW]

I make the target's power strong, so it can't be blocked or redirected, etc.

looked at wiki and it said Strongman also. is that part of the etc?

My qt didn't mention strongman, but I think it's essentially equivalent but only effective the night I target them.

[Swowl]

I make the target's power strong, so it can't be blocked or redirected, etc.

looked at wiki and it said Strongman also. is that part of the etc?

My qt didn't mention strongman, but I think it's essentially equivalent but only effective the night I target them.

ok well like... what did it mention?

[iguanaiguana]

does anyone else know why WCD is obviously supposed to be last?
Don't say like "why" just would like some yes and/or no's before she gets to her claim.

I think there were some posts where she softed having a PR at some point but nothing that indicated what kind.

I'm fine with her going where she is because MiX thought she was town and she is saying now clearly that she sees a benefit to claiming late.

[Swowl]

does anyone else know why WCD is obviously supposed to be last?
Don't say like "why" just would like some yes and/or no's before she gets to her claim.

I think there were some posts where she softed having a PR at some point but nothing that indicated what kind.

I'm fine with her going where she is because MiX thought she was town and she is saying now clearly that she sees a benefit to claiming late.

right. same reasons. just to re-itterate. I do NOTTTT think anyone should say "WHY" one way or another until it gets to didds. Just was more wondering if anyone else caught on to something that wasn't "because mix TRd her"

[Swowl]

puke. reiterate *

[iguanaiguana]

puke. reiterate *

You had extra ts in "not" as well.

[pubby]

I'll go ahead and throw out my preferred order:

EFHW, faust, swowl, dylan, mathdude, pubby, WCD, Glooble/Iguana

This is based on MiX's final stated reads, where he agrees with WCD that town are among WCD, pubby, MiX, Glooble, Iguana but says there's no reason to think mathdude is town (I just quoted this post above.) Nothing's really changed since then to make MiX's reads out of date, so we should use MiX's reads.

We should listen to you or MiX, why? You two haven't accomplished much besides exiling two innocent townies.

[pubby]

Strengthener makes more sense as a scum role. It brings setup balance to awaclus's jailkeeper role, stopping both the doctor and role-block effects.

[EFHW]

I make the target's power strong, so it can't be blocked or redirected, etc.

looked at wiki and it said Strongman also. is that part of the etc?

My qt didn't mention strongman, but I think it's essentially equivalent but only effective the night I target them.

ok well like... what did it mention?

I don't understand.

[EFHW]

Strengthener makes more sense as a scum role. It brings setup balance to awaclus's jailkeeper role, stopping both the doctor and role-block effects.

I think it would be way op to give this to scum as it is.

[mathdude]

Quick as I can from mobile:

1st - Was picking up Mason vibes from WCD/faust. It’s why my saying anything about it earlier was absolutely anti-town. Obviously picked up on all the same things MiX did. First started with Faust’s “I have knowledge that indicates WCD won’t get exiled if I and MiX are against it” post D1.

2nd - Don’t blindly accept the current Masons claim. It’s been made and ridden by scum to victory in the past, especially with the Vig out of the way to shoot them at night.

3rd - Obviously re-look at WCD & faust and draw your own conclusions.

4th - EFHW is scum. If there’s one take away from my exile, it should be that. Don’t throw away tomorrow with an exile anywhere else, PLEASE.

5th - If it’s going to be me at this point, at least the day doesn’t end up being a complete waste. It would’ve without a lot of this end of day had I gone earlier.

6th - Iguana is on crack lol

Just re-highlighting one of Galz's posts from near the EoD2...
the "2nd" point, about not blindly trusting masons, was something that I was thinking about when I was reading through D2 posts (when I got to the claim, before I got to this post by Galz).  I'm not saying it is bogus, just that we can't take it as absolute truth until/unless proven.

Also, some of Galz's other points should be considered too.

[Glooble]

Hey guys sorry I thought the day was starting a lot later.

I don't really have the time or the brain power to rejigger the claim order tonight, so in the interest of time, let's go with iguana's.

[WestCoastDidds]

Here is iguana order:

EFHW, stengthener N1 iguana, N2 WCD
faust
swowl
dylan
pubby
WCD
Glooble/Iguana

[WestCoastDidds]

Sorry, corrected:

EFHW, stengthener N1 iguana, N2 WCD
faust
swowl
dylan
Mathdude
pubby
WCD
Glooble/Iguana

[iguanaiguana]

I'll go ahead and throw out my preferred order:

EFHW, faust, swowl, dylan, mathdude, pubby, WCD, Glooble/Iguana

This is based on MiX's final stated reads, where he agrees with WCD that town are among WCD, pubby, MiX, Glooble, Iguana but says there's no reason to think mathdude is town (I just quoted this post above.) Nothing's really changed since then to make MiX's reads out of date, so we should use MiX's reads.

We should listen to you or MiX, why? You two haven't accomplished much besides exiling two innocent townies.

That's what you've accomplished too dude.

[iguanaiguana]

So we claim whenever Faust is ready. Conveniently (in a way) he's also the one challenging the masons. I will happily argue why I'm town with Faust if he wants me to.

[pubby]

That's what you've accomplished too dude.

I didn't vote for either and my town read on galzria was correct. You and MiX were wrong on both.

[iguanaiguana]

You ended both days voting for town. I will prove it to you tomorrow when I can sit down for a bit and get all the evidence!

[EFHW]

That's what you've accomplished too dude.

I didn't vote for either and my town read on galzria was correct. You and MiX were wrong on both.

You barely participated. Why do you think you are in a position to blame anyone or take credit for yourself?

[pubby]

I'm in a position to question whether we should be listening to iguanaiguana, as is everyone else in this thread. I don't understand why you're trying to gatekeep that.

"You're not allowed to participate now because you didn't participate as much as we wanted yesterday". I mean, damned it I do, damned if I don't.

[pubby]

But yes let's all hop on the GID railroad. They post the most and so we should follow them, ignoring their past vote histories.

[faust]

I don't think it's best for me to claim just yet. I will do some rereading now, feel free to ski me in the order.

[faust]

I don't think it's best for me to claim just yet. I will do some rereading now, feel free to skip me in the order.

EBWOP

[faust]

@iguana & Glooble: Do you have daychat?